Year 4 of Golden? Interesting math. In reality he has had 2 true recruiting cycles under his belt, both under a NCAA cloud. Those aren't excuses, they are facts.
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Year 4 of Golden? Interesting math. In reality he has had 2 true recruiting cycles under his belt, both under a NCAA cloud. Those aren't excuses, they are facts.
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hoops156
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I love Morris but I think the problem comes from the fact that our expectations level rose considerably for Morris and rightfully so. He had hype going into this season and we expected him to take the next step. For whatever reason this year, he hasn't. I do agree that if his ankle was really bad the last few games then he needs to sit and get healthy.
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Like I said before, Morris and the offense went 50% on 3rd/4th down conversions going into the 2nd half.
the 1st failed 3rd down in the 2nd half was a sack b/c Wheeler was at guard.... that's not on Morris. regardless **** like that happens and u have to move on and do ur job. Offense isnt going to be perfect on 3rd downs they had their best game from that stand point.
After that, The defense lost the game from that point on. the defense couldnt even get close to what the offense was doing on 3rd downs allowing 11-15 conversions. smh thats pathetic.
simple as that.... the other failed 3rd down attempts on offense where after Miami was down by 21-24 points in the game it had nothing to do w/ the score or the outcome. The defense was majority at fault.
The defense isnt great or good and it makes the offense look worse.
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1st half Morris looked really good
2nd half FSU adjusted and disguised blitz/zone looks underneath & Morris looked average.
Offensive line was really good - can't believe people still knock Kehoe.
Stacey Coley should have scored a TD on that sideline touch throw. Was a perfect pass - Coley looked really awkward, not sure he saw the ball til the end.
FSU is just better than us & they have a heisman QB. Is what it is.
2nd half FSU adjusted and disguised blitz/zone looks underneath & Morris looked average.
Offensive line was really good - can't believe people still knock Kehoe.
Stacey Coley should have scored a TD on that sideline touch throw. Was a perfect pass - Coley looked really awkward, not sure he saw the ball til the end.
FSU is just better than us & they have a heisman QB. Is what it is.
Throwing to the guys wearing Garnet n Gold sure as **** helped in that blowout. Did Morris think he could throw the ball through a LB? And was it smart to throw the long ball late on a guy double covered when your hobbling around on a busted ankle?
You sunshine pump this kid more than anybody on this message board. You must be watching a different QB than I watch because he been hot and cold all year long. I know, I know, it's because he's injured.
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lol how is what my opinions are a problem? hilarious
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Also look at how much ur backtracking c'mon toughen up..... DeadPoet hasnt said anything that you have agreed w/ in this thread before. He said Morris looked "really good" in the 1st half and average in the 2nd half. lol you and the rest of the parrots have been saying he sucked in the FSU game and it was entirely his fault why Miami lost.
But since DeadPoet is saying it, it's different???? c'mon son.
Constantly blaming the offense and Stephen Morris about any and everything only shows that you have no idea about how football truly works.... your minds r 2 shallow, u guys need to dig a lil deeper.
lol no matter how much i break this elementary stuff down, you all cant comprehend it either b/c it's like learning Chinese to some of you or either b/c it doesnt coincide w/ ur I hate Stephen Morris rants. smh either way it's laughable.
You cant find a single post in this thread where i've said Stephen Morris is perfect and the offense was perfect against FSU... but since i'm not on this "rahrah" bs trashing Stephen Morris irrationally, now i'm "pumping" him up lol hilarious.
The facts are simple like Dead Poets said the offense and Stephen Morris looked really good in the 1st half, 50% on conversions 3rd/4th down combined..... 2nd half he looked average, i can agree w/ that, but if the defense had a pulse looking average wouldve kept Miami in the game. 11-15 on 3rd down conversions given up by the defense is why Miami got blown out, what about this simple math cant u comprehend?
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Picksix you have shown along time ago that u are clueless when it comes to football, so if i was on ur side of any argument related to the subject i would have to second guess myself. lol C'mon and you know what i'm talking about too smh
J. Winston threw 2 interceptions to Miami and S. Morris threw 2 interceptions to FSU, the 1st one was Stacy Coley's fault though regardless it was an INT. But guess why those 2 interceptions didnt matter for Jameis? B/c their defense is elite enough to do their jobs at different times throughout the game, while Miami's defense was busy getting 3rd downs converted on them 11 out of 15 times and giving up a TD every single time on the field in the 3rd quarter.
lol i know u dont understand how 3rd down defense effects an offense but maybe u should do some research and find out. smh
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Alright zone, you are the smartest person in the world. Your opinions are correct and you are a future coach in the making. How you aren't a coach boggles my mind and your team in NCAA 13 should be going undefeated every year bc of ur fantastic adjustments.
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Dude, the offense has been terrible on third downs all year. the d wasn't perfect but what do u expect them to do against an elite offense? Bama couldn't stop tamu from scoring but then went like 5 games without allowing a td. The third down conversions that we gave up hurt a lot but that's what Fsu has done all year. To me, I expected the offense to carry the load and I didn't have this silly notion that our d was suddenly gonna be the 85 bears going into tally. Morris had to be perfect and the offense as a whole had to match Fsu score for score in order for us to win. Goudis missing the field goal wasn't good but us not being able to score on any possessions that weren't off turnovers doesn't help either.
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The offense hasnt been terrible on 3rd downs all year see that's another lie being spewed by the ranting Stephen Morris sucks parrots on this board.
The offense was terrible on 3rd downs against FAU (4-14) , Florida (1-11), and UNC (8-18). The 4 interceptions by S. Morris skewed the perception of how the offense looked that game.
But the offense was very good on 3rd downs against:
Sav. St (6-9) lol, USF (7-14), GT (3-6), WF ( 6-13)
and FSU (4-12)* but they were 50% going into the 2nd half and were left scrambling after the defense let FSU blow them out.
The point is the defense was 90% to blame for Miami losing and getting blown out by FSU anyone who knows football would realize that.
This thread isnt about how inconsistent the offense has been through out the season i'm talking about against FSU, which you all dont want to deal with the fact that the defense got Miami blown out and was the reason why we lost.
The offense was terrible on 3rd downs against FAU (4-14) , Florida (1-11), and UNC (8-18). The 4 interceptions by S. Morris skewed the perception of how the offense looked that game.
But the offense was very good on 3rd downs against:
Sav. St (6-9) lol, USF (7-14), GT (3-6), WF ( 6-13)
and FSU (4-12)* but they were 50% going into the 2nd half and were left scrambling after the defense let FSU blow them out.
The point is the defense was 90% to blame for Miami losing and getting blown out by FSU anyone who knows football would realize that.
This thread isnt about how inconsistent the offense has been through out the season i'm talking about against FSU, which you all dont want to deal with the fact that the defense got Miami blown out and was the reason why we lost.
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The d not getting off the field is a reason why we lost but it isn't the only reason. Yes we couldn't get off the field but we had the first crack at tying the game in the second half and we couldn't convert prolly the biggest third down of the game. I knew our d was getting scored on but that's why we needed the offense and Morris to go down and score on that first possession. Momentum would continue to swing in our favor had we done that and we also aren't in a 2 td hole when we get the ball back. Our offense has more talent than our D and I expected this offense to score for us to have a shot at winning. U keep saying we couldn't get off the field and were in this and that hole score wise and that's fine. That's true but we also started the half w the ball n we should've scored there for us to have a shot. Again I didn't think our d was gonna win us this game and they didn't. This defense isn't elite and if u thought it would be this year then just stop. We were one of the worst in the nation last year and to even get the improvement were getting this year from the d is great. Last years d allows 70 to Fsu (they put up 63 on Maryland and 35 in a quarter against ncsu). My expectation level for the d is nowhere near where my expectations are for Morris and the offense.
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Also I do think Morris has the tools to be a great qb. I like him so don't think I just don't like him. His deep throws are amazing and he's one of the few qbs who has the talent to make every throw and more. That's why I'm frustrated w him. Also, if it is bc of the injury then he shouldn't have played against wake or unc. Ryan Williams could win us those games as those teams aren't very good.
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Lol you keep saying the offense "had to" score on that 1st drive in the 2nd half.... look i know u like to blame Morris for everything, but he was SACKED on a blitz that didnt get picked up by Wheeler on that 3rd down. Guess what **** like that happens in football, the other side of the ball has to do their job. Whose talking about "ELITE" when it comes to the defense???? you dont have to be elite to not get raped 11-15 on 3rd downs the entire game and give up a TD every time ur on the field in the 3rd quarter.
Has nothing to do w/ elite, just do ur job, the offense slipped up 1 drive in the 2nd half so what? Then after the 28-14 whole that was dug, S. Morris still tried to make a play to keep the offense back in the game but it was underthrown and b/c of Stacy Coley it was intercepted...... so instead of the defense doing their jobs again and saying lets try to help out an offense that's going against an ELITE defense, they gave up another TD.
so now the score is 35-14...... Stephen Morris still tried to make a play happen. He threw a perfect pass that wouldve been a TD to Stacy Coley but he choked again, i'm not bashing Coley b/c he's my guy and i understand that he's a freshman but that wouldve been a TD. and the score wouldve been 35-21.
2 plays later Morris throws an interception trying to hit Walford.... but guess what though, even if the offense just went 3 and out and punted, what wouldve changed? nothing, the defense was going to give up some more points anyway.
You're talking about in a span of 2 offensive drives the score went from 21-14 to 35-14. lol yeah that's on the offense.... sure.
You're also talking about expectations, it's laughable, i had higher expectations for this defense and offense.... then I had to understand that the QB of this team is battling an ankle injury that wont ever be 100%, also Philip Dorsett and Rashawn Scott went down w/ injuries. I wonder what FSU's passing game would look like if Rashard Greene and Kelvin Benjamin were out w/ injuries on top of Winston having an Achilles injury???
Yet and still u ***** about what ur expectations were..... and it's pathetic that you give the defense such a pass when they were suppose to be better then what they are? If the defense looks good on 1st and 2nd downs, then why do they suck on 3rd and 4th downs??? You didnt have expectations for how a defense is suppose to look on 3rd downs? hmmmm sounds like somebody is just trying to give irrational reasons for their bias against this offense and S. Morris.
The one side who deserves more benefit of the doubt is this offense...... 2 of the best receivers out, a QB w/ a bum ankle, and a Offensive Coordinator's 1st year on the job. Compare that to a defense where D'onofrio has been here since Al Golden. smh c'mon it's ridiculous.
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