Stars or Evals?

[supacane]

how many 3* recruits were in their 2 deep in the NC game?

I don't know, just they eval 8 3 stars in their last recruiting class. Maybe u can tell me how many played in the NC game?

 

[sstcane]

how many 3* recruits were in their 2 deep in the NC game?

Jordan Davis was a 3* and so was Stetson Bennett with 5* QB on the bench.

I’m not sure why people are freaking out so early…some of these guys will be 4* in the end and we will probably have 20 4&5* players in the end.

 

[dolpterry]

Until you win good Evals are your only choice in most situations, once you win Stars will start to come around

 

[Go Canes!!]

Cincinnati actually did...

No team that plays this schedule deserves to be in a playoff:

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Amazingly enough stars do matter to a point in college football. Few teams have done it based on system alone. Boise St comes to mind as one who did.

Now interesting enough the NFL relies on evaluating and could careless what a players “star ranking” was in college.

You can’t fairly add G5 schools into this conversation. They play teams that are on their talent level for the most part. When they start playing real teams, 5 times a year and winning all of them, then they can get into the discussion.

Boise did it once a year for a couple of years bc they had good coaching and good QB play. Cincinnati is the same way. They mix in a few talented guys from the portal or guys they’ve developed and it clicks. That’s not a win every year, at a Bama/OSU recruiting powerhouse level formula.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

So you are saying we won't get any blue chips athletes or u think we should only recruit those? Cuz yall made a point and I point out UGA recruited eval type players.

Nah I'm saying you need both, you can't just expect a class full of blue-chippers; but you need more than the 3-stars you have, probably 2:1 ratio.

 

[jhtheking]

I don't know, just they eval 8 3 stars in their last recruiting class. Maybe u can tell me how many played in the NC game?

One of those 3 stars was the number 1 punter in the country. That's just how they evaluate punters. But their blue chip ratio for that class was 73% even with the punter. Everyone here would be very happy with that ratio. Right now our 2023 blue chip ratio is 12.5%.

 

[mossmadness]

Jordan Davis was a 3* and so was Stetson Bennett with 5* QB on the bench.

I’m not sure why people are freaking out so early…some of these guys will be 4* in the end and we will probably have 20 4&5* players in the end.

Would you call Bennett a great eval?

 

[sstcane]

One of those 3 stars was the number 1 punter in the country. That's just how they evaluate punters. But their blue chip ratio for that class was 73% even with the punter. Everyone here would be very happy with that ratio. Right now our 2023 blue chip ratio is 12.5%.

You know we’re going to start landing the higher rated kids soon. A lot will start committing July/Aug

 

[RealRussellPumps]

Stars absolutely matter, anyone saying otherwise is just flat out incorrect. Sure there are outliers where someone out performs their stars but the fact is that 5 stars hit at a significantly higher rate than other star rated players. Does that mean all 5 stars turn out to be good? Of course not, but you should try to bring in as many 5 stars as possible to increase the odds as much as possible. There is a reason that we took a 3 star QB and said hey kid, we'd love to have you but just know we're also going to pushing for another 5 star at your position.

 

[OldhamA]

We see the current trajectory of the class. To alleviate some of the discussion in other threads and get everyone on record. What do you care more about? Personally certain positions I care more about stars. I think OL, TE, and Safety are more about projection and evaluations than stars. I think WR, DE, CB you look for alphas that are 5* talents. I think the overall class benefits from a highly ranked QB. RB is the easiest transition so just grab guys that fit the offense.

 

[supacane]

One of those 3 stars was the number 1 punter in the country. That's just how they evaluate punters. But their blue chip ratio for that class was 73% even with the punter. Everyone here would be very happy with that ratio. Right now our 2023 blue chip ratio is 12.5%.

Everything you say is fact, yet you are tripping about our class in June. Not a single player has been signed. Not one, not even our commits

 

[cway313]

Because that defeats purpose of thread.

 

[OldhamA]

Until a team comes along and proves it isn’t the case, stars are all that matters. There is no “evaluation” dominate team in college football.

University of Cincinnati?

 

[sstcane]

Would you call Bennett a great eval?

They developed him and he stuck it out. I still believe we’ll be over 65% Blue chip this cycle.

Georgia’s first cycle under Kirby had 3 5*, 11 4* and 9 3*’s and was #6 overall.

 

[HurricanePhilly]

How many of Alabama, UGA, OSU, etc's 3 stars became 4 stars and how many of their 4's became 5's over the course of these websites getting out to "check out" evals of guys who do it for a living. If 4-5 out of the 22+ end up falling into that category and can move a team up the rankings by quite a few spots depending on the jump they make. I think with our class most of our 3's end up being 4's. These sites understand clicks, money, etc and when you have good coaches their 3's typically are better then what some intern wrote up at a 7 on 7 camp at TCU, after seeing a 15 yr old OL for the first time

 

[Canemang]

Because that defeats purpose of thread.

You said both in the OP

 

[Canes Legacy]

Macro level- stars matter. If you have a class full of 3 stars, you’re going to get 3 star results a large majority of the time.

Micro level- stars don’t matter. Countless examples of 5* that bust, countless examples of 2/3* becoming elite players.

 

[cway313]

You said both in the OP

No I said certain positions idc about stars.

 

[KANE]

Cincinnati actually did...

They did?