Stadium renovation

[CaneInHeelCountry]

better than nothing, but still blows. 98% of seats will still be way too far.

The atmosphere and crowd noise should improve dramatically with the addition of the roof. Plus, it won't be as scorchingly hot and sunny in the So Fla summers.

If the only thing left to complain about is that most of the seats are too far away, I'd say they've done pretty well and fixed about 75-80% of the problems.

If your are just counting problems, then yes you knocked off most...but I'd say being too far is much more important than any of those other complaints. I sit in the lower bowl and can't even recognize who made a tackle or is carrying the ball. The field is literally 80 yards away from my seat.

Funny, I thought the biggest problem was the lack of atmosphere....that the place was dead and quiet inside, no noise, no home field advantage, etc.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, they're supposed to be putting in a lot of big-*** TV's (see pics above) to help with the fact that you can't see the action clearly.

 

[QuadCam]

One of the reasons i choose to sit in the upper deck is because the view is so much better than the lower bowl. My seats are on the 15 in the 3rd row. Love the view, but the atmosphere isn't as good as the lower bowl. I don't think they'll ever fix the bad view from the lower bowl.

 

[OldManCane]

APPROVED!!!

MIAMI (CBSMiami) – The Miami-Dade commission has a approved a deal with the Miami Dolphins organization concerning modernization and upgrades to Sun Life Stadium.

Miami-Dade County Commissioners voted 7 to 4 to approve Mayor Carlos Gimenez’s plan in which the county will pay the Dolphins millions of dollars for hosting the Super Bowl and other major sports events.

“I want to thank the Board of County Commissioners and Mayor Gimenez for approving this unique and creative plan to bring Super Bowls and other marquee events to Miami-Dade County. We have one of the world’s most aspirational cities and as such, deserve a stadium that will provide significant economic impact to Miami-Dade County,” said team owner Stephen Ross in a statement. “This will not only secure the future of the Dolphins, but will ensure that Miami has one of the world’s best venues to host events of this magnitude going forward.“

According to terms of the deal, the Dolphins organization will be responsible for paying for approximately $350 million in repairs and upgrades without any additional money from the county. The Dolphins will also continue to pay property taxes, which is about $4 million a year.

In exchange, the county will pay the team $4 million for each Super Bowl hosted at Sun Life Stadium and $3 million if the college football national championship is played at the stadium.

A college play-off game, which Sun Life is slated to host every three years under the new Bowl Championship Series system, will bring in bring $2 million, while smaller sporting events generating 55,000 ticket sales — such as an international soccer match — will bring the Dolphins $750,000.

Should Miami ever land a World Cup soccer match, a championship would be worth $4 million for the Dolphins, and a semi-final $3 million.

The money will come from the county’s hotel tax revenue and be paid after the event is over. There is also a yearly cap of $5 million. So if the team managed to lure a Super Bowl and a World Cup match to the stadium in the same year, the county will only be on the hook for $5 million.

The payments go into effect in 2024 so that the county has time to build up its hotel-tax reserve which has been drained due to the countywide budget crunch.

As part of the bonus arrangement, Ross will sign the Dolphins to remain in Miami-Dade for the next 30 years.

So yearly cap of 5 million, 350 million dollars out of pocket to do the upgrades....

Let's see. I'm not a calculus teacher but wouldn't that mean it takes 70 years at least for the upgrades to pay for themselves?

Stephen Ross will be about 169 years old by the time he makes his money back.

Not buying it. He didn't get to be a rich guy by being an idiot. There must be more goodies in the bag for him.

 

[CyberCane]

APPROVED!!!

MIAMI (CBSMiami) – The Miami-Dade commission has a approved a deal with the Miami Dolphins organization concerning modernization and upgrades to Sun Life Stadium.

Miami-Dade County Commissioners voted 7 to 4 to approve Mayor Carlos Gimenez’s plan in which the county will pay the Dolphins millions of dollars for hosting the Super Bowl and other major sports events.

“I want to thank the Board of County Commissioners and Mayor Gimenez for approving this unique and creative plan to bring Super Bowls and other marquee events to Miami-Dade County. We have one of the world’s most aspirational cities and as such, deserve a stadium that will provide significant economic impact to Miami-Dade County,” said team owner Stephen Ross in a statement. “This will not only secure the future of the Dolphins, but will ensure that Miami has one of the world’s best venues to host events of this magnitude going forward.“

According to terms of the deal, the Dolphins organization will be responsible for paying for approximately $350 million in repairs and upgrades without any additional money from the county. The Dolphins will also continue to pay property taxes, which is about $4 million a year.

In exchange, the county will pay the team $4 million for each Super Bowl hosted at Sun Life Stadium and $3 million if the college football national championship is played at the stadium.

A college play-off game, which Sun Life is slated to host every three years under the new Bowl Championship Series system, will bring in bring $2 million, while smaller sporting events generating 55,000 ticket sales — such as an international soccer match — will bring the Dolphins $750,000.

Should Miami ever land a World Cup soccer match, a championship would be worth $4 million for the Dolphins, and a semi-final $3 million.

The money will come from the county’s hotel tax revenue and be paid after the event is over. There is also a yearly cap of $5 million. So if the team managed to lure a Super Bowl and a World Cup match to the stadium in the same year, the county will only be on the hook for $5 million.

The payments go into effect in 2024 so that the county has time to build up its hotel-tax reserve which has been drained due to the countywide budget crunch.

As part of the bonus arrangement, Ross will sign the Dolphins to remain in Miami-Dade for the next 30 years.

So yearly cap of 5 million, 350 million dollars out of pocket to do the upgrades....

Let's see. I'm not a calculus teacher but wouldn't that mean it takes 70 years at least for the upgrades to pay for themselves?

Stephen Ross will be about 169 years old by the time he makes his money back.

Not buying it. He didn't get to be a rich guy by being an idiot. There must be more goodies in the bag for him.

Umm no.

 

[TRock305]

Looks good. But why not build a new stadium in Tropical Park?

 

[OldManCane]

APPROVED!!!

MIAMI (CBSMiami) – The Miami-Dade commission has a approved a deal with the Miami Dolphins organization concerning modernization and upgrades to Sun Life Stadium.

Miami-Dade County Commissioners voted 7 to 4 to approve Mayor Carlos Gimenez’s plan in which the county will pay the Dolphins millions of dollars for hosting the Super Bowl and other major sports events.

“I want to thank the Board of County Commissioners and Mayor Gimenez for approving this unique and creative plan to bring Super Bowls and other marquee events to Miami-Dade County. We have one of the world’s most aspirational cities and as such, deserve a stadium that will provide significant economic impact to Miami-Dade County,” said team owner Stephen Ross in a statement. “This will not only secure the future of the Dolphins, but will ensure that Miami has one of the world’s best venues to host events of this magnitude going forward.“

According to terms of the deal, the Dolphins organization will be responsible for paying for approximately $350 million in repairs and upgrades without any additional money from the county. The Dolphins will also continue to pay property taxes, which is about $4 million a year.

In exchange, the county will pay the team $4 million for each Super Bowl hosted at Sun Life Stadium and $3 million if the college football national championship is played at the stadium.

A college play-off game, which Sun Life is slated to host every three years under the new Bowl Championship Series system, will bring in bring $2 million, while smaller sporting events generating 55,000 ticket sales — such as an international soccer match — will bring the Dolphins $750,000.

Should Miami ever land a World Cup soccer match, a championship would be worth $4 million for the Dolphins, and a semi-final $3 million.

The money will come from the county’s hotel tax revenue and be paid after the event is over. There is also a yearly cap of $5 million. So if the team managed to lure a Super Bowl and a World Cup match to the stadium in the same year, the county will only be on the hook for $5 million.

The payments go into effect in 2024 so that the county has time to build up its hotel-tax reserve which has been drained due to the countywide budget crunch.

As part of the bonus arrangement, Ross will sign the Dolphins to remain in Miami-Dade for the next 30 years.

So yearly cap of 5 million, 350 million dollars out of pocket to do the upgrades....

Let's see. I'm not a calculus teacher but wouldn't that mean it takes 70 years at least for the upgrades to pay for themselves?

Stephen Ross will be about 169 years old by the time he makes his money back.

Not buying it. He didn't get to be a rich guy by being an idiot. There must be more goodies in the bag for him.

Umm no.

He did get to be a rich guy by being an idiot? Jesus Christ, this guy must have hit it bit at the horse tracks.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Wait, is this what I signed the petition for?

 

[CyberCane]

APPROVED!!!

MIAMI (CBSMiami) – The Miami-Dade commission has a approved a deal with the Miami Dolphins organization concerning modernization and upgrades to Sun Life Stadium.

Miami-Dade County Commissioners voted 7 to 4 to approve Mayor Carlos Gimenez’s plan in which the county will pay the Dolphins millions of dollars for hosting the Super Bowl and other major sports events.

“I want to thank the Board of County Commissioners and Mayor Gimenez for approving this unique and creative plan to bring Super Bowls and other marquee events to Miami-Dade County. We have one of the world’s most aspirational cities and as such, deserve a stadium that will provide significant economic impact to Miami-Dade County,” said team owner Stephen Ross in a statement. “This will not only secure the future of the Dolphins, but will ensure that Miami has one of the world’s best venues to host events of this magnitude going forward.“

According to terms of the deal, the Dolphins organization will be responsible for paying for approximately $350 million in repairs and upgrades without any additional money from the county. The Dolphins will also continue to pay property taxes, which is about $4 million a year.

In exchange, the county will pay the team $4 million for each Super Bowl hosted at Sun Life Stadium and $3 million if the college football national championship is played at the stadium.

A college play-off game, which Sun Life is slated to host every three years under the new Bowl Championship Series system, will bring in bring $2 million, while smaller sporting events generating 55,000 ticket sales — such as an international soccer match — will bring the Dolphins $750,000.

Should Miami ever land a World Cup soccer match, a championship would be worth $4 million for the Dolphins, and a semi-final $3 million.

The money will come from the county’s hotel tax revenue and be paid after the event is over. There is also a yearly cap of $5 million. So if the team managed to lure a Super Bowl and a World Cup match to the stadium in the same year, the county will only be on the hook for $5 million.

The payments go into effect in 2024 so that the county has time to build up its hotel-tax reserve which has been drained due to the countywide budget crunch.

As part of the bonus arrangement, Ross will sign the Dolphins to remain in Miami-Dade for the next 30 years.

So yearly cap of 5 million, 350 million dollars out of pocket to do the upgrades....

Let's see. I'm not a calculus teacher but wouldn't that mean it takes 70 years at least for the upgrades to pay for themselves?

Stephen Ross will be about 169 years old by the time he makes his money back.

Not buying it. He didn't get to be a rich guy by being an idiot. There must be more goodies in the bag for him.

Umm no.

He did get to be a rich guy by being an idiot? Jesus Christ, this guy must have hit it bit at the horse tracks.

So, there's no way to get incremental revenue after a renovation at the stadium other than from the county?

 

[OldManCane]

Wait, is this what I signed the petition for?

No that was the other stadium

 

[OldManCane]

APPROVED!!!

MIAMI (CBSMiami) – The Miami-Dade commission has a approved a deal with the Miami Dolphins organization concerning modernization and upgrades to Sun Life Stadium.

Miami-Dade County Commissioners voted 7 to 4 to approve Mayor Carlos Gimenez’s plan in which the county will pay the Dolphins millions of dollars for hosting the Super Bowl and other major sports events.

“I want to thank the Board of County Commissioners and Mayor Gimenez for approving this unique and creative plan to bring Super Bowls and other marquee events to Miami-Dade County. We have one of the world’s most aspirational cities and as such, deserve a stadium that will provide significant economic impact to Miami-Dade County,” said team owner Stephen Ross in a statement. “This will not only secure the future of the Dolphins, but will ensure that Miami has one of the world’s best venues to host events of this magnitude going forward.“

According to terms of the deal, the Dolphins organization will be responsible for paying for approximately $350 million in repairs and upgrades without any additional money from the county. The Dolphins will also continue to pay property taxes, which is about $4 million a year.

In exchange, the county will pay the team $4 million for each Super Bowl hosted at Sun Life Stadium and $3 million if the college football national championship is played at the stadium.

A college play-off game, which Sun Life is slated to host every three years under the new Bowl Championship Series system, will bring in bring $2 million, while smaller sporting events generating 55,000 ticket sales — such as an international soccer match — will bring the Dolphins $750,000.

Should Miami ever land a World Cup soccer match, a championship would be worth $4 million for the Dolphins, and a semi-final $3 million.

The money will come from the county’s hotel tax revenue and be paid after the event is over. There is also a yearly cap of $5 million. So if the team managed to lure a Super Bowl and a World Cup match to the stadium in the same year, the county will only be on the hook for $5 million.

The payments go into effect in 2024 so that the county has time to build up its hotel-tax reserve which has been drained due to the countywide budget crunch.

As part of the bonus arrangement, Ross will sign the Dolphins to remain in Miami-Dade for the next 30 years.

So yearly cap of 5 million, 350 million dollars out of pocket to do the upgrades....

Let's see. I'm not a calculus teacher but wouldn't that mean it takes 70 years at least for the upgrades to pay for themselves?

Stephen Ross will be about 169 years old by the time he makes his money back.

Not buying it. He didn't get to be a rich guy by being an idiot. There must be more goodies in the bag for him.

Umm no.

He did get to be a rich guy by being an idiot? Jesus Christ, this guy must have hit it bit at the horse tracks.

So, there's no way to get incremental revenue after a renovation at the stadium other than from the county?

He must think so, clearly.

 

[Calinative]

Lets just see how close the seats are to the field.

 

[Cash]

What do you think Ross makes in parking, Merchandise & Concession sales?

 

[OldManCane]

What do you think Ross makes in parking, Merchandise & Concession sales?

Not a dime more than he would have without a roof. If he were spending 350 million to build more stores and hot dog stands then it would make sense. He's spending it on a roof.

He must think that he's going to get a lot bigger crowds at regular season games or that he's going to get a lot of events coming to town. Pretty big gamble in my opinion but then again, Mr. Ross has a bigger bank account than I do so maybe he knows what he's doing.

Just a guess too.... given the fact that he just dropped 350 mil, I seriously doubt he even considers letting UM out of our lease. He needs the revenue.

 

[OldManCane]

Another thing that interests me about all this... once the renovations are complete, if you add in the initial cost to build the stadium and then all the little nips and tucks along the way.... something like a BILLION dollars have gone in to this stadium.

And we all know it's pretty much still a lemon, but they just keep pouring money in to it.

Only in Miami baby.

 

[Tad Footeball]

When does that waterpark open next door that Ross was also planning? I'm going to run a shuttle bus from the WalMart parking lot to the front gate. Maybe throw in some Canes-Wake tix with each ride. God, that area blows. At $350 mil and Beckham supposedly willing to spend $250 mil, I'm not sure why they didn't just go in together with Daaaahna offering a couple hundred grand (over 50 years) and just build a complex together somewhere more attractive.

 

[MarshallCane]

I'm amazed at how many people don't know about Ross.. Must not be Dolphins fans. Football is a hobby for this guy. He doesn't even live here.. spends most of his time in NY.

This guy is worth $5 billion. $350 million isn't really breaking the bank for him considering what he's putting the money into.

This is the same guy that has donated $313 million to Michigan for his name on a couple buildings he doesn't even own!!!!! The last thing I'm worried about is if he's spending his money wisely or if he's going to break even on this deal.

 

[cane since birth]

looks like the endzone seats are a little closer

 

[112_cane]

looks like the endzone seats are a little closer

They are adding at least 10 rows to both sidelines and changing the angle as well. The seats are all being replaced and will be a little bigger so that means less seats per row.

 

[Dingaan1828]

looks like the endzone seats are a little closer

They are adding at least 10 rows to both sidelines and changing the angle as well. The seats are all being replaced and will be a little bigger so that means less seats per row.

All of that means the average lower deck seat will be closer to the field. It doesn't affect the upper deck. However, removing some upper deck seats in the corners makes the average seat in the upper deck closer to the field. Although in practical terms of seats that are actually occupied, it does not.

 

[BigCaneAl]

better than nothing, but still blows. 98% of seats will still be way too far.

The atmosphere and crowd noise should improve dramatically with the addition of the roof. Plus, it won't be as scorchingly hot and sunny in the So Fla summers.

If the only thing left to complain about is that most of the seats are too far away, I'd say they've done pretty well and fixed about 75-80% of the problems.

If your are just counting problems, then yes you knocked off most...but I'd say being too far is much more important than any of those other complaints. I sit in the lower bowl and can't even recognize who made a tackle or is carrying the ball. The field is literally 80 yards away from my seat.

Funny, I thought the biggest problem was the lack of atmosphere....that the place was dead and quiet inside, no noise, no home field advantage, etc.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, they're supposed to be putting in a lot of big-*** TV's (see pics above) to help with the fact that you can't see the action clearly.

I think that's a byproduct of having a cavernous stadium that is 40yds from the sidelines to the first row. That's the largest distance from sidelines to stands in the NFL. 50k fans is more than enough to make some deafening crowd noise in the right sized stadium.