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Picksix said:
Jassid82 said:
Jesus Christ how old are some of you guys? 21? Get out of the time machine, this aint 2002. We are not blowing out UF and we will be lucky to walk out of there with a W. Just like they would. A few rebuttals..

2) You might be able to count out ALOT of things in that UF game but dont ever count out a Will Muschamp Defense. I dont care who wont be playing those guys will be ready for war. Thats what scares me. Yes there offense isnt great BUT there D causes ALOT of turnovers. Thats another thing that scares me. Lets remember how we fared last year when "put to the test" against top quality teams. (KSU, ND, FSU) Lets just agree that it will be a great game. I will be there.
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I don't care if Saban was running the UF defense this year there's no way in **** you lose that much talent and just keep rolling right along with no hiccups. Elam was a GD monster last year and nobody on that roster is going to easily replace his production. He was everywhere on that field last year making plays constantly. Same goes for Floyd, Bostic, and McCray. Like I said, Morrison is supposed to be the future at MLB and he's out for the Miami game. MLB is the captain of the defense and missing your best LB from an already questionable group doesn't help. Do I think the UF defense can be good? Sure but they're not going to be 2012 good. When Muschamp took over he did some house cleaning and they lost a bunch off that devastating D. Let's also not forget that UF was exposed by Lousiville and finished the season in really bad form.

Also, against good teams last year (KSU, ND, FSU) Miami's offense didn't get many shots at scoring points because the defense never got off the field. Kind of hard to attack or wear down an opponents defense when you don't have the ball. I fully expect the Miami defense to make more stops and have more takeaways allowing the offense to more effectively impose their will on defenses.

UM Vs. KSU Time of Possession 22:44 to 37:16
UM Vs. ND Time of Possession 20:52 to 39:08
UM Vs. FSU Time of Possession 25:26 to 34:34

The UF offense should be better but everyday that Driskel, Jones, and Halapio miss reps is not helping their cause. Driskel was mediocre at best in the passing game. Like I said, UF rode Gillislee hard last season and as he went so went the Gator offense. The O-line look to be the weakest link and losing your best Guard to a torn pec doesn't make things better. Time is ticking and every day these guys are gone is an advantage for our defense.
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They are reloading their defense. While our team is improving on both sides of the ball, so is their team. Their defense will still be top 15/20. Their dline & secondary is elite. You can't act like our offense was perfect throughout those games against FSU, ND, & KSU. The full blame doesn't go to the defense. We were just outmatched on both sides of the ball. Regarding UF's bowl game with Louisville, it was just one game. Look at the whole season's work.

Your highlighting UF's weaknesses so much while undermining our weaknesses as if they just went away with a year of hard work. Our defense was terrible last year. TERRIBLE. Our front 7 depth is still scarce. Everyone can get hyped off pictures but at the end of the day we don't know how much this team has improved. The improved strength will be great help to improving our D, but untill proven otherwise a our defense is a major liability until proven otherwise. Michael Rocco who had a season passer rating of 129 posted a 186 passer rating against our team last year. 79% completion with 300 yards and four touchdowns.

". I fully expect the Miami defense to make more stops and have more takeaways allowing the offense to more effectively impose their will on defenses." - What is this based off? Just returning starters?
 
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WhatTheHell said:
Hype?

3,893 Yards, 36 Touchdowns and 10 Interceptions against the best defenses in the country. That's not hype. Murray is receiving praise that he earned by his outstanding play.
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False.

Against the best defenses in the country:

USCe: 11 for 31, 109 yards, 0 TD 1 INT
UFag: 12 for 24, 150 yards, 1 TD 3 INT
BAMA: 18 for 33, 1 TD 1 INT (including the gaffe of the century which costed his team a chance at a National Championship)

Throwing for a ton of yards and touchdowns against the stout defenses of Mizzou, FAU, Buffalo, Vandy, Georgia Southern, Auburn, and Ole Miss doesn't impress me.

His game against Florida last year was one of the worst games I saw from a QB all year.

Once again, Aaron Murray blows.
 
Picksix said:
Jassid82 said:
Jesus Christ how old are some of you guys? 21? Get out of the time machine, this aint 2002. We are not blowing out UF and we will be lucky to walk out of there with a W. Just like they would. A few rebuttals..

2) You might be able to count out ALOT of things in that UF game but dont ever count out a Will Muschamp Defense. I dont care who wont be playing those guys will be ready for war. Thats what scares me. Yes there offense isnt great BUT there D causes ALOT of turnovers. Thats another thing that scares me. Lets remember how we fared last year when "put to the test" against top quality teams. (KSU, ND, FSU) Lets just agree that it will be a great game. I will be there.
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I don't care if Saban was running the UF defense this year there's no way in **** you lose that much talent and just keep rolling right along with no hiccups. Elam was a GD monster last year and nobody on that roster is going to easily replace his production. He was everywhere on that field last year making plays constantly. Same goes for Floyd, Bostic, and McCray. Like I said, Morrison is supposed to be the future at MLB and he's out for the Miami game. MLB is the captain of the defense and missing your best LB from an already questionable group doesn't help. Do I think the UF defense can be good? Sure but they're not going to be 2012 good. When Muschamp took over he did some house cleaning and they lost a bunch off that devastating D. Let's also not forget that UF was exposed by Lousiville and finished the season in really bad form.

Also, against good teams last year (KSU, ND, FSU) Miami's offense didn't get many shots at scoring points because the defense never got off the field. Kind of hard to attack or wear down an opponents defense when you don't have the ball. I fully expect the Miami defense to make more stops and have more takeaways allowing the offense to more effectively impose their will on defenses.

UM Vs. KSU Time of Possession 22:44 to 37:16
UM Vs. ND Time of Possession 20:52 to 39:08
UM Vs. FSU Time of Possession 25:26 to 34:34

The UF offense should be better but everyday that Driskel, Jones, and Halapio miss reps is not helping their cause. Driskel was mediocre at best in the passing game. Like I said, UF rode Gillislee hard last season and as he went so went the Gator offense. The O-line look to be the weakest link and losing your best Guard to a torn pec doesn't make things better. Time is ticking and every day these guys are gone is an advantage for our defense.
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we have holes just like any other team, i just feel you need to be balanced about it. for example everyone keeps bringing up louisville as the game that 'exposed' uf despite ignoring that uf shut down some pretty elite offenses during the season. that one game is all that matters apparently. what's funny is that louisville had 336 yards total while being held to 1.9 ypc, that's a very mediocre offensive performance. **** uf's offense averaged somewhere around there and everyone thinks uf's offense is horrible. but for example you expect major improvement by your defense yet the last time we saw them they were giving up 500+ in a nailbiter to duke. so using the same logic one could say duke exposed miami, it's just not very logical.

i also think you overstate our losses on defense. elam and floyd are absolute studs, some of the best at their positions to come through uf. but we rotated upwards of 18-19 guys on defense, especially in the front 7. some of the guys who were backups started multiple games, like watkins who started 4 at safety while logging nickel duties. we are short on starts in some areas, not experience or game time, there's a difference. but i do agree they won't be as good as 2012, that imo was the best unit in the country considering they finished #2 with no offensive help whatsoever. and the fact they won't be as good frankly scares me because they singlehandedly won half of our games last year. i'm expecting a regression to an 8-4 or 9-3 type year unless the offense significantly improves, which i'm not betting on.
 
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killa1storm said:
Picksix said:
Jassid82 said:
Jesus Christ how old are some of you guys? 21? Get out of the time machine, this aint 2002. We are not blowing out UF and we will be lucky to walk out of there with a W. Just like they would. A few rebuttals..

2) You might be able to count out ALOT of things in that UF game but dont ever count out a Will Muschamp Defense. I dont care who wont be playing those guys will be ready for war. Thats what scares me. Yes there offense isnt great BUT there D causes ALOT of turnovers. Thats another thing that scares me. Lets remember how we fared last year when "put to the test" against top quality teams. (KSU, ND, FSU) Lets just agree that it will be a great game. I will be there.
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I don't care if Saban was running the UF defense this year there's no way in **** you lose that much talent and just keep rolling right along with no hiccups. Elam was a GD monster last year and nobody on that roster is going to easily replace his production. He was everywhere on that field last year making plays constantly. Same goes for Floyd, Bostic, and McCray. Like I said, Morrison is supposed to be the future at MLB and he's out for the Miami game. MLB is the captain of the defense and missing your best LB from an already questionable group doesn't help. Do I think the UF defense can be good? Sure but they're not going to be 2012 good. When Muschamp took over he did some house cleaning and they lost a bunch off that devastating D. Let's also not forget that UF was exposed by Lousiville and finished the season in really bad form.

Also, against good teams last year (KSU, ND, FSU) Miami's offense didn't get many shots at scoring points because the defense never got off the field. Kind of hard to attack or wear down an opponents defense when you don't have the ball. I fully expect the Miami defense to make more stops and have more takeaways allowing the offense to more effectively impose their will on defenses.

UM Vs. KSU Time of Possession 22:44 to 37:16
UM Vs. ND Time of Possession 20:52 to 39:08
UM Vs. FSU Time of Possession 25:26 to 34:34

The UF offense should be better but everyday that Driskel, Jones, and Halapio miss reps is not helping their cause. Driskel was mediocre at best in the passing game. Like I said, UF rode Gillislee hard last season and as he went so went the Gator offense. The O-line look to be the weakest link and losing your best Guard to a torn pec doesn't make things better. Time is ticking and every day these guys are gone is an advantage for our defense.
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we have holes just like any other team, i just feel you need to be balanced about it. for example everyone keeps bringing up louisville as the game that 'exposed' uf despite ignoring that uf shut down some pretty elite offenses during the season. that one game is all that matters apparently. what's funny is that louisville had 336 yards total while being held to 1.9 ypc, that's a very mediocre offensive performance. **** uf's offense averaged somewhere around there and everyone thinks uf's offense is horrible. but for example you expect major improvement by your defense yet the last time we saw them they were giving up 500+ in a nailbiter to duke. so using the same logic one could say duke exposed miami, it's just not very logical.

i also think you overstate our losses on defense. elam and floyd are absolute studs, some of the best at their positions to come through uf. but we rotated upwards of 18-19 guys on defense, especially in the front 7. some of the guys who were backups started multiple games, like watkins who started 4 at safety while logging nickel duties. we are short on starts in some areas, not experience or game time, there's a difference. but i do agree they won't be as good as 2012, that imo was the best unit in the country considering they finished #2 with no offensive help whatsoever. and the fact they won't be as good frankly scares me because they singlehandedly won half of our games last year. i'm expecting a regression to an 8-4 or 9-3 type year unless the offense significantly improves, which i'm not betting on.
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I thought I was being pretty balanced about it. Let's face it, most experts picked Miami to only win 4 games max last year because the depth chart was such ****. Golden has overachieved with this roster. He increased wins even after losing the bulk of whatever talent was left to him and starting a bunch of pups who had no business playing last year. Golden got **** near the entire roster some playing experience. I fully expect this team to make a huge jump forward this year. **** look at the size difference alone from last year? That defense that couldn't stop the run last year isn't going to have that problem this year.

I agree that Elam and Floyd are some of the best players to ever come through the UF program at their respective positions. That's not all you lost. Bostic and McCray were studs also. The defense lost their biggest turnover contributors and tacklers. When *** left UF and Muschump came in he got rid of some players which is evident by the number of freshmen you had on roster last season. How much burn did the backups really get when it was the Upperclassmen who were the ones "singlehandedly winning games?" So defense lost major studs and to top it off Morrison has to sit who is the best LB left over? The defense is not going to be the beast it was last year. Not even close.

Didn't you guys lose your stud kicker too? Now Debose is gone who was lights out in special teams? A QB who already had trouble going through his progressions and making his reads and had zero sense of timing just had surgery and isn't getting valuable reps? Jones isn't getting valuable reps and has already lost 10lbs from super aids? Your most Veteran Gaurd "27 starts" is out with a torn pec? What does Debose do to WR depth? Will your QB, RB "1st year starter", and OG be ready for Miami?

You better believe UF has been circled on our boys calendars and they're going to be fired up. I like our chances right now. Things can change.
 
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JHallCanes said:
moshated305 said:
According to CS, Stacy killed it today during 11 on 11 drills.
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There's a lot of people that don't realize how big Coley putting that Swag hat on was that day, but they gon find out soon enough.
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Been trying to tell cats, GOT TO KEEP THE TOP TALENT HOME. Duke won us a couple games single-handily last year. Coley can have that same affect.



/Back to recruiting board to let em know we NEED COOK!
 
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jerzeycane said:
WhatTheHell said:
Hype?

3,893 Yards, 36 Touchdowns and 10 Interceptions against the best defenses in the country. That's not hype. Murray is receiving praise that he earned by his outstanding play.
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False.

Against the best defenses in the country:

USCe: 11 for 31, 109 yards, 0 TD 1 INT
UFag: 12 for 24, 150 yards, 1 TD 3 INT
BAMA: 18 for 33, 1 TD 1 INT (including the gaffe of the century which costed his team a chance at a National Championship)

Throwing for a ton of yards and touchdowns against the stout defenses of Mizzou, FAU, Buffalo, Vandy, Georgia Southern, Auburn, and Ole Miss doesn't impress me.

His game against Florida last year was one of the worst games I saw from a QB all year.

Once again, Aaron Murray blows.
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I need more rep for this post
 
Remember how we were all wondering how little old true freshman Stacy Coley would ever get on the field ahead of all these talented, experience wide receivers?

Well what do you do when it turns out the guy is a shorter AJ Green? A budding superstar? A bonafide game-changing weapon? A dude more smooth and fluid than a morning bowel movement following a night of drinking and questionable fast food? Coley is going to get himself on the field because he's proving to be almost uncoverable. There's no way he doesn't see a lot of snaps.

Why march your troops into war and leave Achilles back on the boat?
 
WhatTheHell said:
Remember how we were all wondering how little old true freshman Stacy Coley would ever get on the field ahead of all these talented, experience wide receivers?

Well what do you do when it turns out the guy is a shorter AJ Green? A budding superstar? A bonafide game-changing weapon? A dude more smooth and fluid than a morning bowel movement following a night of drinking and questionable fast food? Coley is going to get himself on the field because he's proving to be almost uncoverable. There's no way he doesn't see a lot of snaps.

Why march your troops into war and leave Achilles back on the boat?
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...and didn't read a word after that

REPPED

:rollcanes:
 
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