Sonny Odogwu is a Cane!

[DaveT]

Big thing here is he'll be enrolling early (reports to UM on Jan 9 per Feldmen). He will be able to go through U-Tough.

He also speaks 4 languages fluently.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

I like this young man. Size, quickness, and most important - attitude.

The coaching staff has done pretty well - a **** of a lot better than some of the recruiting experts I've seen here.

Of those who don't like this pick up, how many times have you spoken to Sunny? How many times have you talked to him and looked him in the eye? Speak to his coaches at length?

And you, have you spoken to him and looked him in the eye and spoken to his coaches at length? Or do those things only matter if someone expresses concern, and not when they grab the pom poms?

For me, this kid is such an obscure prospect that it's not likely anyone will have a feel for him other than coaches who have met him in person. Its not like he did the camp circuit, 7 on 7, and all star games.

 

[BrazilCane]

I like this young man. Size, quickness, and most important - attitude.

The coaching staff has done pretty well - a **** of a lot better than some of the recruiting experts I've seen here.

Of those who don't like this pick up, how many times have you spoken to Sunny? How many times have you talked to him and looked him in the eye? Speak to his coaches at length?

And you, have you spoken to him and looked him in the eye and spoken to his coaches at length? Or do those things only matter if someone expresses concern, and not when they grab the pom poms?

I believe coach Golden did all this to accept this young man commitment. Just saying...

 

[Port Knox]

How many OL are in the League right now who were coached by Kehoe? I'll hang up and listen.

McKinnie(BAL), Winston(KC), Butler(HOU), and Myers(HOU). Money earnin Vernon Carey is still a UFA. All I can think of right now.

 

[Port Knox]

B. Wash, O. Franklin, and Jason Fox are the only other OL we have floating around right now that I know of. Non Kehoe guys

 

[Ethnicsands]

I like this young man. Size, quickness, and most important - attitude.

The coaching staff has done pretty well - a **** of a lot better than some of the recruiting experts I've seen here.

Of those who don't like this pick up, how many times have you spoken to Sunny? How many times have you talked to him and looked him in the eye? Speak to his coaches at length?

And you, have you spoken to him and looked him in the eye and spoken to his coaches at length? Or do those things only matter if someone expresses concern, and not when they grab the pom poms?

I believe coach Golden did all this to accept this young man commitment. Just saying...

Thats fine. But welcome to 2003--2010 if we're just going to have folks jerking themselves off over recruits then hiding behind the infallible HC when someone asks why or expresses any concerns.

I have a lot of confidence generally in AG, but his eval skills aren't yet proven to be butch/jj level, and at OL, they're quite unproven, IMO. And kehoe, i aint relying on for recruiting evals. So color me skeptical. It's a small class, and spots are limited. Hopefully, he's the next mckinney.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

I like this young man. Size, quickness, and most important - attitude.

The coaching staff has done pretty well - a **** of a lot better than some of the recruiting experts I've seen here.

Of those who don't like this pick up, how many times have you spoken to Sunny? How many times have you talked to him and looked him in the eye? Speak to his coaches at length?

And you, have you spoken to him and looked him in the eye and spoken to his coaches at length? Or do those things only matter if someone expresses concern, and not when they grab the pom poms?

I believe coach Golden did all this to accept this young man commitment. Just saying...

Thats fine. But welcome to 2003--2010 if we're just going to have folks jerking themselves off over recruits then hiding behind the infallible HC when someone asks why or expresses any concerns.

I have a lot of confidence generally in AG, but his eval skills aren't yet proven to be butch/jj level, and at OL, they're quite unproven, IMO. And kehoe, i aint relying on for recruiting evals. So color me skeptical. It's a small class, and spots are limited. Hopefully, he's the next mckinney.

He did get on Flowers pretty early last year.

 

[Cans4life]

Im down with this pick up. Kid can move for his size.

 

[The Franchise]

I like this young man. Size, quickness, and most important - attitude.

The coaching staff has done pretty well - a **** of a lot better than some of the recruiting experts I've seen here.

Of those who don't like this pick up, how many times have you spoken to Sunny? How many times have you talked to him and looked him in the eye? Speak to his coaches at length?

And you, have you spoken to him and looked him in the eye and spoken to his coaches at length? Or do those things only matter if someone expresses concern, and not when they grab the pom poms?

I believe coach Golden did all this to accept this young man commitment. Just saying...

Thats fine. But welcome to 2003--2010 if we're just going to have folks jerking themselves off over recruits then hiding behind the infallible HC when someone asks why or expresses any concerns.

I have a lot of confidence generally in AG, but his eval skills aren't yet proven to be butch/jj level, and at OL, they're quite unproven, IMO. And kehoe, i aint relying on for recruiting evals. So color me skeptical. It's a small class, and spots are limited. Hopefully, he's the next mckinney.

What are your reasons for skepticism when it comes to Sunny? If you spell them out, then we can discuss them.

 

[duppy03]

I don't know what you are so worried about. Let these guys do their jobs. AG has proven that ge gas an eye for takent. Scott, johnson and other less heralded recruits have been servicable.

Not every player is going to be an all american or day1 starter. They took a bunch of kids and did what we have never done, since joining the ACC. Remember what our last #1 class got us? Not a **** thing.

Welcome to the U.

 

[HulkaCaniac]

In Kehoe I trust.

 

[bigpurk45]

Gone in 2013
75 Jared Wheeler RJr.
69 Eduardo Lopez RJr.
77 Seantrel Henderson Jr.
65 Brandon Linder Jr.

This will be the guys baby jesus plays behind.
79 Malcolm Bunche RSo.
70 Jon Feliciano RSo.
62 Shane McDermott RSo.

64 Hunter Wells RFr.

74 Ereck Flowers Fr.
76 Taylor Gadbois Fr.
63 Danny Isidora Fr.

Our recruits and what I believe their projected positions are:

2013 class
OT-Knighton
OG-Sonny O
C-Gall
OG-Kirkland <------I believe he will be a Cane
OT/TE-Kerr

This is how I am hoping this class pans out, I think Kirkland and Sonny O might play this year.

2014 class
Darling
McDormott
? may add 1 or even 2

We gonna be str8... thats what you call depth

 

[Canething]

How can you not cheer for Sunny? This kid has already beaten the odds, done more by getting an opportunity to play at the U than most people in his country will ever dream.

Golden and company wanted this kid last year , that tells me the staff has a conviction here. I personally like his upside; lets not forget at the end of the day all these high school kids are projects. Welcome Sunny, ill be cheering for you!

 

[Ethnicsands]

I like this young man. Size, quickness, and most important - attitude.

The coaching staff has done pretty well - a **** of a lot better than some of the recruiting experts I've seen here.

Of those who don't like this pick up, how many times have you spoken to Sunny? How many times have you talked to him and looked him in the eye? Speak to his coaches at length?

And you, have you spoken to him and looked him in the eye and spoken to his coaches at length? Or do those things only matter if someone expresses concern, and not when they grab the pom poms?

I believe coach Golden did all this to accept this young man commitment. Just saying...

Thats fine. But welcome to 2003--2010 if we're just going to have folks jerking themselves off over recruits then hiding behind the infallible HC when someone asks why or expresses any concerns.

I have a lot of confidence generally in AG, but his eval skills aren't yet proven to be butch/jj level, and at OL, they're quite unproven, IMO. And kehoe, i aint relying on for recruiting evals. So color me skeptical. It's a small class, and spots are limited. Hopefully, he's the next mckinney.

What are your reasons for skepticism when it comes to Sunny? If you spell them out, then we can discuss them.

I'm torn between trying to answer seriously and having another bourbon.

Somewhat my instinct on how kids get recruited and what inferences to draw. I've been following recruiting for 15+ years. I've had a pretty good record of reading the tea leaves on it, and have been out front of it pro and con on many kids over that period on various UM sites.

The smart big mandingo story always sounds appealing. He hunts lions with a spear! Rarely pans out in my experience. I've seen the Canadian version of this (he shovels snow all year round), the Caribbean version, etc.

This kid seems like a credible prospect. And i've been on record on this site saying i think we need more OL recruits, so i'm not upset about it, but i think kirkland is a better prospect and i am concerned that we have limited space and hopefully some real program difference makers potentially in the mix (coley, collins, thomas, robinson, bryant, aqm, etc.). Meanwhile, the kid is not hotly recruited -- his offer list is not that of a top prospect. That concerns me, especially for someone who can speak four languages, plays OL, comes from a top PG program, and isnt wed to one school or area. Someone mentioned flowers above, but his talent was obvious and a lot of top programs wanted him.

I have not had the time to look at tape this year i've had in the past. I will say the two best kids from HS clips i've seen were franklin and flowers and i said that before they ever set foot on campus. This kid falls into the 'hope they know what to look for' category for me. And i might be skeptical in part because i do not trust kehoe at all on OL recruit evaluations, and don't have any real data yet on golden's quality control at that spot.

Anyhow, the bar is much higher when spots are limited. I'm asking who loses a spot to this kid.

 

[AUcane]

Kehoe project. This is why he lost his job the first time. When is he gonna get it?

Negged.

He lost his job the first time because clappy needed a scape goat. And btw, Mt. McKinney and Micheal Oher were both Kehoe projects.

Partly true but let's not forget for every McKinnie and oher that he brought in, he brought in many many other undersized projects that never panned out.

1. It's Sonny not Sunny
2. Why do some of you say Sonny is a project? Do you think Golden has the luxury of taking projects.
3. Some of you need to stop getting your hopes up with #6 committing early. He will take his trips.
4. Kirkland same as 3.
5. Grace same as 4.

Yes. One or two if he's got conviction.

If he's got conviction, it's not really a project.

I'm skeptical on this kid, in this class.

Tell me whose spot he takes.

Yep yep. I'm skeptical as well. In a small class, taking a tackle like this is questionable - call him a project or not - be real, I think he took someone else's spot. I like te kid in general but in a small class?

How many OL are in the League right now who were coached by Kehoe? I'll hang up and listen.

Not to turn this into a Kehoe thread, but if he coached here for 20+ years and all someone in this thread can muster is a handful of names, then....well, you see my point (and yes, I know there are more).

 

[decleated]

The sunshine meter is all over the place with this kid

one minute he's all

the next he's all

hoping the bottom pic is more recent

 

[canecountry3]

Let's talk about this guy in 2014 and 2015.

Nobody will be talking about him (except the idiots speculating about his transfer or him being cut because he isn't starting as a freshman from day one) in 2013.

Arguing about him is pointless. Young man is a Cane - ride or die.

 

[Larry]

Not to turn this into a Kehoe thread, but if he coached here for 20+ years and all someone in this thread can muster is a handful of names, then....well, you see my point (and yes, I know there are more).

I don't think Kehoe's track record of putting players in the league should be questioned at all. He's been the OL coach here for great teams and great OLines and put out tons of pro players...

The real statement is "has Kehoe lost it"...I think that is something that is up for debate...but we'll find out in the next year or two.

 

[Larry]

The sunshine meter is all over the place with this kid

one minute he's all

the next he's all

hoping the bottom pic is more recent

Those need "(TM Larry 2012)" on them

 

[jhtheking]

Kehoe project. This is why he lost his job the first time. When is he gonna get it?

Negged.

He lost his job the first time because clappy needed a scape goat. And btw, Mt. McKinney and Micheal Oher were both Kehoe projects.

Wasn't Oher a big time prospect and wasn't he already at Ole Miss by the time Kehoe got there?

/Not saying Kehoe doesn't know what he's doing