Larry
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The determining factor we all have to recognize is that Sunny is 6'8" 311lbs of good weight, with a basketball players athleticism and long arms.
Are there any other physical attributes you'd like in an offensive tackle?
Talent and attitude? If he didn't have talent and a good/great attitude Golden would never have offered him.
Don't forget Golden doesn't just carpet bomb the country with scholarship offers. Golden is probably the most selective Head Coach from a major college football program in regards to scholarship offering in the country.
Compare Sunny to Seantrel physically and do you see much of a difference? Sunny actually has better physical attributes then Seantrel did at the same age.
So it all comes down to talent and attitude. The talent level is up in the air because none of us non insiders know. The coach's know this kid's ceiling which is why they offered him. I'm guessing his ceiling is through the roof and is only a matter of Sunny working his tail off to develop, and everything I've read about him points to the fact that Sunny has a great attitude.
So the only thing Sunny seems to be missing in blog posters minds is stars next to his name.
On a side note it seems that every time I have turned on a pro football game the past decade or so there is always a Sunny Odagwu type of player not only playing but starring be it Priest Holmes, Arian Foster, Colin Kapaernick etc.,
Just goes to show that from high school on to the pro's that so called experts get it wrong all the time. Just ask a Dallas Cowboys' fan how much he thinks of Jerry Jone's talent judgement.
Excellent post. Most of the OL and DL in the NFL are 3 stars. Fact.
It's a tough position to project from HS to college because a lot of the big kids just push smaller kids around in HS without much effort or technique. You need to find good athletes with the right attitude. The hard part is the attitude evaluation. Seems like Sunny has that in boatloads along with a great frame and good athletic ability.
Freckles Davis used to put a premium on finding big kids who played basketball in HS. Sunny fits that bill too.
I don't see the downside here at all. If you're concerned about his offer list take solace in Sumlin offering him. Sumlin is a pretty smart dude and an offensive wizard.
Your first statement is a bit overzealous...sure, its fact, but that is by proxy of sheer volume. There is usually over 300 "3-star" kids every year...roughly 50 "5-stars" and 150 "4-stars". Give or take a few depending on the service and how they rate players. 5 and 4 star players hit at a higher percentage and trend to play at a higher level than the 3* in any given year.
Sumlin's teams haven't exactly produced NFL talent on the OL...he walked into TAMU with the two best tackles in the country...but, I do agree with what you are getting at...he's not being recruited like a scrub. He's got legit interest/offers. As Mike Bakas would say...he's being recruited like a three star.
With that said, and not pertaining to your post...I think we are all aware that the kid is developmental...Kehoe obviously feels confident in the kid as he's been after him for two years. I like what I've seen from him in regards to growth...glad to see he was able to do that on his "own time" at prep...so he's coming in with a full clock and already grew a ton during that year. That's basically a saved year of development.
It's not really overzealous when you view it in light of the fact that there are only 32 NFL teams compared to the reams of college programs out there and all the kids who get recruited every year. You'd think that the 4 and 5 star DL and OL would rise to the top and take those limited jobs on those 32 teams, but they don't.
As as Sumlin goes, he's proven that he's a very good offensive mind. For those feeling any trepidation over Sunny's offers they should be assuaged by Sumlin feeling good about him.
But, they do.
Just an example or two because I'm not going to do an analysis over a decade or anything...
2007...Scout had 9 5* offensive linemen...5 offensive linemen are now playing in the NFL and one will be a 2013 draft prospect.
2006...Scout had 10 5* offensive linemen...6 of which are now playing in the NFL.
Conversely, there are 200+ 3* offensive linemen in any given year...10-20 may make the NFL. Maybe you'll find an outlying figure on a crazy year.
Yeah, sure...there are more 3*, but 5*'s have an insanely higher on base percentage.