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TheOriginalCane said:
Stop with your hardheaded mopery. Who was that "talented passer" supposed to throw the ball to? Alabama's wide receivers?
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Yeah I know, Herbert didn't have anyone to throw the ball to. Guys at places like UTEP can put up numbers and be highly sought after in the transfer portal but at Oregon they couldn't recruit anyone to get open. Who are the all big time NFL RBs that he was handing the ball off to? I'm sure CJ Verdell and Travis Dye are both first round picks who you couldn't help but hand the ball off to over and over again.
 
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fincane said:
He took into account all those things. Herbert ran the ball 58 times that year I think. They also had 5 blowout wins. And I watched Justin Herbert plenty that year. I'm a Dolphins fans so that year was particularly important for QB drafting. @LuCane posted an article again in this thread detailing NFL people being surprised about what Herbert is considering how he was used at Oregon.

You guys just gotta accept it. The stats, the eye-test and the analysis after the fact all support that Mario has a philosophy. That is who he has been. So cut the you guys are just married to numbers stuff. LSU wasn't a good team in 2019? Alabama wasn't a good team? Those team knew their best way forward was leaning on the QB and they did.

I'm not sure why people want to fight something that is clearly true. From Justin Herbert to Anthony Brown. The man values highlighting his OL and running game over the QB.
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Five blowouts is a lot of blowouts lol. That could lead to 15-20 more carries per game in itself.

He’s a former ol coach so yes he wants balance but some of y’all obsessing like he’s Rex Ryan is just wrong, and it’s trying to create a narrative. Brown was god awful and that’s why it was super run heavy. Under Herbert is was way more balanced, take away the blow outs it’s easily 50-50.
 
fincane said:
Yeah I know, Herbert didn't have anyone to throw the ball to. Guys at places like UTEP can put up numbers and be highly sought after in the transfer portal but at Oregon they couldn't recruit anyone to get open. Who are the all big time NFL RBs that he was handing the ball off to? I'm sure CJ Verdell and Travis Dye are both first round picks who you couldn't help but hand the ball off to over and over again.
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I guess we’ll know when the oc is hired what his long term plan is. But I’m sure you’ll still be beating the same drum regardless.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Stop with your hardheaded mopery. Who was that "talented passer" supposed to throw the ball to? Alabama's wide receivers?
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People seem to forget that King's biggest problem was Wiggins and pope dropping big time passes. The whole narrative changes if those passes are caught. Likewise with TVD those mofos started to catch everything. They were making circus catches ala Brinson and Harley. Who knows what Oregon's receivers did to help out. There are more facets than just the QB to determine how the QB will do.
 
There are plenty of people on the board that understand the X and O of the game than I. However, without a doubt I would prefer mason. He has a background at a small private school and led an outstanding defenses regardless of recruiting limitations (that we don't have). He is known to be a smart, a leader and motivator. I understand that Schumann may be a genius and juggernaut but I would take the sure thing especially after our past 20 years of trying to find diamonds in chunks of coal. We have been burned too many times with promise.

Every time I would rather start with a solid 9 hire than shoot for a 10 but very easily have a 7. We have Mario and I believe he is a 9- and in a crowd if you girl is a 9 that means over 95% of the guys want your girl because a 9 there are not 10% of the females that are 10's but probably closer to 1-2%. Same with coaches.
I am going with Mason because at Miami he is a 9 (and he could turn out to be a 10 as well being in South Florida).
 
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All the nitpicking speculation about who Mario MIGHT choose as his OC or DC is truly laughable. This ain’t Mario’s first HC gig. He’s been around the block a time or 2 and has built a tree of competent candidates to choose from - and has the $$$ to attract said candidates.

I have no doubt there are many factors (especially coaches still coaching) contributing to coaching decisions not yet being revealed. I’ll trust a P5 HC to make the right decisions versus a bunch of keyboard warriors that never even stepped on a football field.

All in due time.
 
CaneDog66 said:
Wow, doesn’t sound like Mario is playing around at all. Good, these kids have had it soft under the Mandy regime. They’re about to not know what hit them shortly. Look for several to transfer out post Spring.
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Don't blame the kids because of coaching.
 
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swampcougar1 said:
Mario best coach we have hired at least since Butch. Does not even have his staff announced yet. At least wait until we know who the OC is before being concerned about what offense we will run.
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Actually on paper he's the best hire we've ever made and it's not close. Certainly the most accomplished hire. The sitting 2-time Pac-12 champion, Rose Bowl winning 2x P12 COY who won 12 games in a season 24 months after taking over a bad team?

No coach we ever hired had that resume coming in.
 
Cribby said:
Five blowouts is a lot of blowouts lol. That could lead to 15-20 more carries per game in itself.

He’s a former ol coach so yes he wants balance but some of y’all obsessing like he’s Rex Ryan is just wrong, and it’s trying to create a narrative. Brown was god awful and that’s why it was super run heavy. Under Herbert is was way more balanced, take away the blow outs it’s easily 50-50.
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Yeah now go count the blowouts for the other best teams in country that year and see how they went about using their QBs. Now you're just looking at numbers. No one thought that Oregon offense was the best use of Herbert. People fighting hard against something that is obviously true. The hope is that he hires a guy and changes his philosophy because this team's strength will be at QB.

Bringing up Brown doesn't help his case. Brown much like Mario had plenty of tape on record. Every one knew what he was and Mario went and got him anyway and then started him.
 
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Tony4Miami said:
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coffeecane said:
People seem to forget that King's biggest problem was Wiggins and pope dropping big time passes. The whole narrative changes if those passes are caught. Likewise with TVD those mofos started to catch everything. They were making circus catches ala Brinson and Harley. Who knows what Oregon's receivers did to help out. There are more facets than just the QB to determine how the QB will do.
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If you watch film it’s obvious Tvd was a lot better in the rpo game and had a far better deep ball. I always said King caused a lot of the issues holding on to the ball too long and leaving the pocket early. I also said Lashlee was not helping him out with the game plans. Either bench him or remove the rpo and zone read aspect. He struggled with both.

The narrative was him and Lashlee was a horrible marriage.
 
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