Significant changes in attitude and

[WhatTheHell]

I've heard this for 10 years straight.

They're less than a year removed from being publicly raped in a bowl game and not fighting back. Dominated physically and mentally. Their punter landed punches and we stood around and watched. Their wr shoved his nuts in our DBS face after a TD. Teddy mocked the U.

We cowered in the corner. Don't talk about it, be about it. Show me or **** off.

 

[niner]

A 7 win season will get Al canned. Especially considering that our arch rival is poised to pick up their 4th NC.

lol @ this comment. Al is here for 6 years minimum. He will not be leaving any time soon regardless of the record this year. He will not do worse than 7 wins so forget about him leaving.

That is not necessarily true. A guy who hasn't won squat will not be afforded the two extra years that a guy like Coker, who won and then lost in the national championships, was afforded. Also, you just hedged your statement by saying that he would never get fired by saying that 7 wins is fireable and he wont win so few games. So which is it?

Shapiro bought him 2 extra years over Shannon. I know its the fashion on this site to completely and utterly dismiss the Yahoo story and the preceeding debacle as having any negative effect on this program, but it bought Golden time....regardless of his record.

So regardless of football merits and coaching success the administration is giving Golden 2 full extra years due to Shapiro gate? That would pretty much dismiss the theory that the administration is devoted to and cares about winning wouldn't it?

Just so you know, you are flat out wrong. He is on the hot seat now. All the positive capital he built up with the administration was cancelled out by how he made the school and Shalala look with Penn State. If not for that, you'd probably be right.

I'm also sorry to see what a weak, spineless attitude you've approved of for the school that theoretically if Golden were to go winless he wouldn't get fired. Shapiro-gate does not and did not equal the type of good will that a national championship win and loss earned.

You have some connection inside the admin that has told you this?

 

[BODESLAM]

A 7 win season will get Al canned. Especially considering that our arch rival is poised to pick up their 4th NC.

lol @ this comment. Al is here for 6 years minimum. He will not be leaving any time soon regardless of the record this year. He will not do worse than 7 wins so forget about him leaving.

That is not necessarily true. A guy who hasn't won squat will not be afforded the two extra years that a guy like Coker, who won and then lost in the national championships, was afforded. Also, you just hedged your statement by saying that he would never get fired by saying that 7 wins is fireable and he wont win so few games. So which is it?

Shapiro bought him 2 extra years over Shannon. I know its the fashion on this site to completely and utterly dismiss the Yahoo story and the preceeding debacle as having any negative effect on this program, but it bought Golden time....regardless of his record.

So true. His *** would be firmly on the hot seat if not for that. And no one would care what Shannon left. Just like no one care what Coker left Shannon and he was gone after 4 seasons. Even tho he beat FSU twice. Something u can't even imagine after 4 tries with Golden

PATTERN / CYCLE WELL ESTABLISHED......WASH, RINSE, REPEAT AS NEEDED......REBUILDING YEARS SPILLING OVER INTO EACH COACHING CRUCIFIXION.....

 

[IndayArtHauz]

I've heard this for 10 years straight.

They're less than a year removed from being publicly raped in a bowl game and not fighting back. Dominated physically and mentally. Their punter landed punches and we stood around and watched. Their wr shoved his nuts in our DBS face after a TD. Teddy mocked the U.

We cowered in the corner. Don't talk about it, be about it. Show me or **** off.

Many emotional boo boos here.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

lol @ this comment. Al is here for 6 years minimum. He will not be leaving any time soon regardless of the record this year. He will not do worse than 7 wins so forget about him leaving.

That is not necessarily true. A guy who hasn't won squat will not be afforded the two extra years that a guy like Coker, who won and then lost in the national championships, was afforded. Also, you just hedged your statement by saying that he would never get fired by saying that 7 wins is fireable and he wont win so few games. So which is it?

Shapiro bought him 2 extra years over Shannon. I know its the fashion on this site to completely and utterly dismiss the Yahoo story and the preceeding debacle as having any negative effect on this program, but it bought Golden time....regardless of his record.

So regardless of football merits and coaching success the administration is giving Golden 2 full extra years due to Shapiro gate? That would pretty much dismiss the theory that the administration is devoted to and cares about winning wouldn't it?

Just so you know, you are flat out wrong. He is on the hot seat now. All the positive capital he built up with the administration was cancelled out by how he made the school and Shalala look with Penn State. If not for that, you'd probably be right.

I'm also sorry to see what a weak, spineless attitude you've approved of for the school that theoretically if Golden were to go winless he wouldn't get fired. Shapiro-gate does not and did not equal the type of good will that a national championship win and loss earned.

You have some connection inside the admin that has told you this?

Without getting myself into trouble, I work in the President's office and my roommate works in the athletic department.

 

[supacane]

lol @ this comment. Al is here for 6 years minimum. He will not be leaving any time soon regardless of the record this year. He will not do worse than 7 wins so forget about him leaving.

That is not necessarily true. A guy who hasn't won squat will not be afforded the two extra years that a guy like Coker, who won and then lost in the national championships, was afforded. Also, you just hedged your statement by saying that he would never get fired by saying that 7 wins is fireable and he wont win so few games. So which is it?

Shapiro bought him 2 extra years over Shannon. I know its the fashion on this site to completely and utterly dismiss the Yahoo story and the preceeding debacle as having any negative effect on this program, but it bought Golden time....regardless of his record.

So true. His *** would be firmly on the hot seat if not for that. And no one would care what Shannon left. Just like no one care what Coker left Shannon and he was gone after 4 seasons. Even tho he beat FSU twice. Something u can't even imagine after 4 tries with Golden

PATTERN WELL ESTABLISHED......WASH, RINSE, REPEAT AS NEEDED......REBUILDING YEARS SPILLING OVER INTO THE COACHING CRUCIFIXION.....

If we weren't stuck in suckitude followed by endless excuses there would be no need for people to keep rehashing the same points.

 

[niner]

That is not necessarily true. A guy who hasn't won squat will not be afforded the two extra years that a guy like Coker, who won and then lost in the national championships, was afforded. Also, you just hedged your statement by saying that he would never get fired by saying that 7 wins is fireable and he wont win so few games. So which is it?

Shapiro bought him 2 extra years over Shannon. I know its the fashion on this site to completely and utterly dismiss the Yahoo story and the preceeding debacle as having any negative effect on this program, but it bought Golden time....regardless of his record.

So regardless of football merits and coaching success the administration is giving Golden 2 full extra years due to Shapiro gate? That would pretty much dismiss the theory that the administration is devoted to and cares about winning wouldn't it?

Just so you know, you are flat out wrong. He is on the hot seat now. All the positive capital he built up with the administration was cancelled out by how he made the school and Shalala look with Penn State. If not for that, you'd probably be right.

I'm also sorry to see what a weak, spineless attitude you've approved of for the school that theoretically if Golden were to go winless he wouldn't get fired. Shapiro-gate does not and did not equal the type of good will that a national championship win and loss earned.

You have some connection inside the admin that has told you this?

Without getting myself into trouble, I work in the President's office and my roommate works in the athletic department.

Gonna need a little more that just your "word", it is the internet and I don't believe everything in it without proof.

Isn't that avi a pic of you? ijs

 

[eurocane]

I've heard this for 10 years straight.

They're less than a year removed from being publicly raped in a bowl game and not fighting back. Dominated physically and mentally. Their punter landed punches and we stood around and watched. Their wr shoved his nuts in our DBS face after a TD. Teddy mocked the U.

We cowered in the corner. Don't talk about it,. Show me or **** off.

Perfectly put!
Knock somebody out and stand above him while he lays motionless on the floor. Show me some pushing and shoving, some real killer instinct!! A defense with this choir boys mentality will never get it done. We need some bad mofos on D.

 

[NVA CANE]

I've heard this for 10 years straight.

They're less than a year removed from being publicly raped in a bowl game and not fighting back. Dominated physically and mentally. Their punter landed punches and we stood around and watched. Their wr shoved his nuts in our DBS face after a TD. Teddy mocked the U.

We cowered in the corner. Don't talk about it, be about it. Show me or **** off.

Many emotional boo boos here.

And they're all true

 

[NVA CANE]

Shapiro bought him 2 extra years over Shannon. I know its the fashion on this site to completely and utterly dismiss the Yahoo story and the preceeding debacle as having any negative effect on this program, but it bought Golden time....regardless of his record.

So regardless of football merits and coaching success the administration is giving Golden 2 full extra years due to Shapiro gate? That would pretty much dismiss the theory that the administration is devoted to and cares about winning wouldn't it?

Just so you know, you are flat out wrong. He is on the hot seat now. All the positive capital he built up with the administration was cancelled out by how he made the school and Shalala look with Penn State. If not for that, you'd probably be right.

I'm also sorry to see what a weak, spineless attitude you've approved of for the school that theoretically if Golden were to go winless he wouldn't get fired. Shapiro-gate does not and did not equal the type of good will that a national championship win and loss earned.

You have some connection inside the admin that has told you this?

Without getting myself into trouble, I work in the President's office and my roommate works in the athletic department.

Gonna need a little more that just your "word", it is the internet and I don't believe everything in it without proof.

Isn't that avi a pic of you? ijs

Many others have heard similar from posters that are in the know. That leash isn't as long as you think it is.

 

[whoopingcane]

The only reason his seat is hot is because his Kirkland Brand Khakis are 100% polyester.

 

[rsncane]

You guys are a ruff crew here, from what I am reading no excuses this year. No time for promises it's either put out or shut up...........

 

[Bigtip]

So regardless of football merits and coaching success the administration is giving Golden 2 full extra years due to Shapiro gate? That would pretty much dismiss the theory that the administration is devoted to and cares about winning wouldn't it?

Just so you know, you are flat out wrong. He is on the hot seat now. All the positive capital he built up with the administration was cancelled out by how he made the school and Shalala look with Penn State. If not for that, you'd probably be right.

I'm also sorry to see what a weak, spineless attitude you've approved of for the school that theoretically if Golden were to go winless he wouldn't get fired. Shapiro-gate does not and did not equal the type of good will that a national championship win and loss earned.

You have some connection inside the admin that has told you this?

Without getting myself into trouble, I work in the President's office and my roommate works in the athletic department.

Gonna need a little more that just your "word", it is the internet and I don't believe everything in it without proof.

Isn't that avi a pic of you? ijs

Many others have heard similar from posters that are in the know. That leash isn't as long as you think it is.

if he isnt on the hot seat now, then fold the program. *******s first 3 years have been horrible. we have been destroyed and embarrassed countless times. even Randy had us competing with good teams and sometimes beating them by his 3rd year

******* gets blown out every time we face a decent-good team. it is beyond pathetic.

and dont give me the BS that ******* had a tougher situation. the 2007 depth chart was putrid. a punter was playing WR for christs sake and we had KW and KF at QB

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

Shapiro bought him 2 extra years over Shannon. I know its the fashion on this site to completely and utterly dismiss the Yahoo story and the preceeding debacle as having any negative effect on this program, but it bought Golden time....regardless of his record.

So regardless of football merits and coaching success the administration is giving Golden 2 full extra years due to Shapiro gate? That would pretty much dismiss the theory that the administration is devoted to and cares about winning wouldn't it?

Just so you know, you are flat out wrong. He is on the hot seat now. All the positive capital he built up with the administration was cancelled out by how he made the school and Shalala look with Penn State. If not for that, you'd probably be right.

I'm also sorry to see what a weak, spineless attitude you've approved of for the school that theoretically if Golden were to go winless he wouldn't get fired. Shapiro-gate does not and did not equal the type of good will that a national championship win and loss earned.

You have some connection inside the admin that has told you this?

Without getting myself into trouble, I work in the President's office and my roommate works in the athletic department.

Gonna need a little more that just your "word", it is the internet and I don't believe everything in it without proof.

Isn't that avi a pic of you? ijs

That's fair. That is me in the avatar.

I'm not sure how to prove it other than I'll post some kind of picture when I go back to school. I'd post a picture of my Cane Card if that means anything.

Also, I don't think saying, "Golden is on the hot seat," is any real hard hitting insider information. I haven't said anything yet that could get me into trouble and the fact that I'm using my real photo wont bite me yet.

 

[ThomasM]

For everyone hanging their hat on Golden not being the guy, you'd better hope you are wrong. I have no faith in the administration bringing in the right guy if they fire Golden. We should all hope to goodness he is our coach for the long haul, because we could very well end up with worse. Far worse. We are headed in the right direction, and our talent level is higher now than it was when this rebuild started. Let's all hope we see real progress this year. We all want that, right?

 

[WhatTheHell]

For everyone hanging their hat on Golden not being the guy, you'd better hope you are wrong. I have no faith in the administration bringing in the right guy if they fire Golden. We should all hope to goodness he is our coach for the long haul, because we could very well end up with worse. Far worse. We are headed in the right direction, and our talent level is higher now than it was when this rebuild started. Let's all hope we see real progress this year. We all want that, right?

This sounds like a battered wife.

"He might hit me, but I don't think I can do better."

If Golden fails, we KNOW he sucks. 100%. At least with the next guy there's a chance we hit.

 

[NVA CANE]

For everyone hanging their hat on Golden not being the guy, you'd better hope you are wrong. I have no faith in the administration bringing in the right guy if they fire Golden. We should all hope to goodness he is our coach for the long haul, because we could very well end up with worse. Far worse. We are headed in the right direction, and our talent level is higher now than it was when this rebuild started. Let's all hope we see real progress this year. We all want that, right?

Give me the hope of a new coach rather than the broken dreams of a failed one.

 

[ThomasM]

He's had crap for talent, depth and experience. Name me one coach that has ever won big without those three things. It takes time to build a champion from scratch, and that is exactly what he started from. Now, is he the answer? We'll know more this year. Remember, Butch Davis was 0-12 against FSU, VT, and ECU until his 6th year. Now, did he suck, or did he just not have the horses yet? Bobby Bowden said in the mid 90s that he hardly had to coach anymore, because if you have the fastest horses you were going to win the dadgum race. Well, the stable was empty for Golden. Go back and look at the 2012 roster and tell me how the **** ANY coach would be winning with that. Vince Lombardi couldn't have won with that "talent".

For everyone hanging their hat on Golden not being the guy, you'd better hope you are wrong. I have no faith in the administration bringing in the right guy if they fire Golden. We should all hope to goodness he is our coach for the long haul, because we could very well end up with worse. Far worse. We are headed in the right direction, and our talent level is higher now than it was when this rebuild started. Let's all hope we see real progress this year. We all want that, right?

This sounds like a battered wife.

"He might hit me, but I don't think I can do better."

If Golden fails, we KNOW he sucks. 100%. At least with the next guy there's a chance we hit.

 

[WhatTheHell]

Ok? A large post defending Golden wasn't necessary. Relax. We know you're a fan of his.

I'm just saying if he fails this year and proves he's not the answer, you don't retain him for fear of not finding better. That's loser talk. That shouldn't and doesn't go on at big time college football programs.

 

[bigmont80]

Unfortunately I've bought in to this before from Golden and co.

I'll wait until I see the team on the field before deciding whether the attitude has changed.

Excuse me but what exactly did you buy before?

That's the problem, you probably had some unrealistic expectations set on the team when you really shouldn't have and now you feel jaded.
No, we were not going to win the ACC in any of the 3 priors years.
Yeah, last year the Coastal was in sights and it sucks as **** that we couldn't find a way to win it. Golden does deserve criticism for how the season ended, but go back to before that season and many were predicting 7-8 win season with the highest anyone was putting them at was 9 wins. Well guess what that's what we ended up with.. So again, what the **** did you buy before?

I had realistic expectations of a defence that wouldn't give up 500 yards to everyone.

Literally, everyone.

"Yards don't matter." - Doritos Locos