second half dominance defensively

[CreamCityCane]

Can adjustments be made quarterly instead of after the half?

That kind of depends... If you are an OC, you script your first 15 plays (call it 2 drives) to see how the defense is going to respond to what you throw at it. How expectations and tendencies from film align to what you are seeing on the field. Some guys call entirely by feel but that seems to be the minority.

Then based on what they saw they will start calling the game more freely. But at that point its the 3rd drive of the game... it might already be the 2nd quarter or close to it. So the 2nd quarter is really when you see what the opponent has decided to try to exploit.

Adjusting at halftime is pretty much an adjustment after 1 quarter.

 

[JayCane20]

You're not being honest with yourself if you watch our defense and think it's good, give up way too many big plays and WRs seem to be routinely open against our secondary, not to mention the abysmal tackling, particularly by the secondary.

Do you watch anyone other than Miami? What is the baseline here because holding teams under 200-300 yards, getting 5 sacks, and less than 50% completions isn't happening on a weekly basis in conference games anywhere. Especially for teams that are scoring like we do on offense. Receivers running wide open - yet only allowing 57% completions and 5.7 yards per passing attempt. Seems like an exaggeration. We allow them to complete underneath stuff and I bet that's the game plan. We played with 6 men in the box all night to avoid getting beat badly in the air. That's not a common way to play a team with a running QB - making it basically a 7 or 8 vs 6 matchup in the trenches. I question that decision knowing that Drones isn't a threatening passer.

Clean up half of the missed tackles and you still had a bad tackling day - and even then, with almost any of the 10-11 missed tackles that you assume still happen, the defense is floating around a borderline dominant performance on Friday only cleaning up half of them.

I'm frustrated with the missed tackles and not being able to get off the field on 3rd down. The tackling game Friday was the worst in 3 years. Assuming it was a one-off kind of thing... it should improve and it will get better. I'm hoping we got VTs best game and we played down. Only time will tell but I'm not in any kind of panic just yet and I'm one of the most pessimistic/skeptical posters on here.

 

[WestEndZone]

We won the game. Guidry still a god in my book.

 

[JHallCanes]

A healthy 100% Bain returning will make a difference.

Give me one sack from Bain and another TFL during the VT game and you likely take away a score and you have a more comfortable win instead of a nailbiter

Yeah at this point it’s one of those things where what kind of Bain do we get when he comes back?

He’s obviously a monster when healthy but how long will that take to get back? If at all this season?

When it comes to injuries and this team I just have no idea what to reasonably expect anymore

 

[JayCane20]

That INT after the phantom holding call is what fueled Vtech. We go up 21-7, that game is over. ****, we may have won 41-7, But that turnover and return gave them hope. A team with hope and momentum is dangerous. VTech is not as bad as their record would suggest, they just haven’t hadn’t put it all together until Friday. They got some talent on that team. Our guys not being totally focused gave them hope that they could play with us, and the turnovers gave them the needed momentum.

This is my thoughts exactly. You could see it on their sideline when we scored... heads went down. Cam was just stunting on them with how easy we were scoring and they saw it.

Then the interception was a momentum shift that gave them a new energy and made it a 14 point swing. Of course, if they came back and answered and it was 21-14, we still would have ended up in a dog fight.. just a little more cushion.... but if the TD stood and it was 21-7, they would have had to throw more and pull off the running game a little, and if their offense stalled in that next drive giving us the ball back.. 100000% a boat race would have ensued. They would have quit and probably wouldn't have even been trotting out Tuten because he was banged up.

 

[JHallCanes]

That INT after the phantom holding call is what fueled Vtech. We go up 21-7, that game is over. ****, we may have won 41-7, But that turnover and return gave them hope. A team with hope and momentum is dangerous. VTech is not as bad as their record would suggest, they just haven’t hadn’t put it all together until Friday. They got some talent on that team. Our guys not being totally focused gave them hope that they could play with us, and the turnovers gave them the needed momentum.

I’m with you

I said it a few times already but there wasn’t a huge difference between the USF game and the VT game to me. The key momentum points in the USF game went to us and we piled on. Key moments went to VT the next game and we were in a dogfight

Both QBs were similar and how they can create problems. USF became one dimensional and we rolled them. Game is 21-7 against VT and I’m not sure how that next chunk of time looks. Cal is less diverse in how they attack so we will see how we respond on defense

 

[DrNovaCane]

There was absolutely nothing "bogus" about that holding call on VT's TD. Stop parroting national media pundit garbage. I do agree that, overall, there was nothing impressive about the defense on Friday.

And didn’t they call Markell Bell with a real “bogus” holding call that nullified a big play for UM? I think he needs to watch the game again….

 

[DrNovaCane]

That INT after the phantom holding call is what fueled Vtech. We go up 21-7, that game is over. ****, we may have won 41-7, But that turnover and return gave them hope. A team with hope and momentum is dangerous. VTech is not as bad as their record would suggest, they just haven’t hadn’t put it all together until Friday. They got some talent on that team. Our guys not being totally focused gave them hope that they could play with us, and the turnovers gave them the needed momentum.

Spot on mane…That INT changed momentum and it was hard to snatch her back.

 

[bacane]

Guidry is our guy & happy that's the case. Don't want to hear about second-half stats & Cam turning the ball over. Enough of the sugar coating and attempts to rationalize. Fact is, the defense nearly cost us a game. Defense didn't match VT's physicality, out-schemed and tackled like a flag football outfit.
The good news is fairly confident Mario & Guidry will fix what they can can, though VT exposed some flaws.

 

[DrNovaCane]

Do you watch anyone other than Miami? What is the baseline here because holding teams under 200-300 yards, getting 5 sacks, and less than 50% completions isn't happening on a weekly basis in conference games anywhere. Especially for teams that are scoring like we do on offense. Receivers running wide open - yet only allowing 57% completions and 5.7 yards per passing attempt. Seems like an exaggeration. We allow them to complete underneath stuff and I bet that's the game plan. We played with 6 men in the box all night to avoid getting beat badly in the air. That's not a common way to play a team with a running QB - making it basically a 7 or 8 vs 6 matchup in the trenches. I question that decision knowing that Drones isn't a threatening passer.

Clean up half of the missed tackles and you still had a bad tackling day - and even then, with almost any of the 10-11 missed tackles that you assume still happen, the defense is floating around a borderline dominant performance on Friday only cleaning up half of them.

I'm frustrated with the missed tackles and not being able to get off the field on 3rd down. The tackling game Friday was the worst in 3 years. Assuming it was a one-off kind of thing... it should improve and it will get better. I'm hoping we got VTs best game and we played down. Only time will tell but I'm not in any kind of panic just yet and I'm one of the most pessimistic/skeptical posters on here.

See Jay I don’t believe we “played down”. It was 14-7 and we were rolling and the defense was “bending but not breaking”. I believe that changed big MO and then 2 more TO’s later we in a dog fight to get that MO back. The defense was put in some bad positions but this is who they’ve been and probably will be rest of the year. I’m hoping it’s the low point for the offense that hurt us Friday night.

 

[cf3000]

They don't lie, but they can mislead. VT scored more than their season average so far in last game. Only other 2 times they scored more than 30 is against Marshall and ODU.

What i give Guidry his flowers for is his mastery in masking our deficiencies. But VT test drove the **** out of it before the adjustment.

2 long interception returns gave them what? 150 yards their offense didn't have to gain? Plus the fumble that wasn't?

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

There’s no way anyone with at least 5 brain cells thought the defense dominated 2H.

Absolute troll or again, they don’t watch football outside Miami games.

 

[90scane]

But I think he has a valid argument that simply because you turnover the ball, you still need to stop opponent from scoring and in the case last Friday, our guys made it too easy.

Life and football are about momentum. The offense lost it and the defense followed them into the tank.

 

[DTP]

Honestly I believe a few personnel changes would have made a night and day difference against VT. Way too much nickel against a team who struggled to throw downfield. We asked cornerbacks to take on blocks and defend those outside runs when we could have used someone a little more stout. Seeing Hill and Porter getting manhandled by pulling linemen and tight ends was brutal. We also played a bit too much man against a team that didn’t warrant it. Instead of trying to play man and using Kiko as a spy (not his strong suit) you should be playing zone against a run first quarterback and have every defensive player’s eyes on the quarterback. It’s much easier to defend the run and especially a scrambling quarterback when you don’t have your back turned to the play.

 

[MedleyCane]

Life and football are about momentum. The offense lost it and the defense followed them into the tank.

No argument.
But championship-level teams overcome situations where one unit is messing up.
For awhile and almost at the end, the defense was not holding up their end.
I suspect Guidry and his coaches would agree as well.

 

[90scane]

No argument.
But championship-level teams overcome situations where one unit is messing up.
For awhile and almost at the end, the defense was not holding up their end.
I suspect Guidry and his coaches would agree as well.

I suspect this isn’t a championship level team…yet.

 

[Santana Sosa]

2 long interception returns gave them what? 150 yards their offense didn't have to gain? Plus the fumble that wasn't?

This is a bit like cheating. Martinez has 250 rushing yards thru 5 games, but 4 TDs, but according to the board, we have a running game issue.

Yards don't wins games. The points do. I see your point. We just look at the half a glass of water differently.

 

[CANEMC]

We blitz often and that is not always the answer, especially when you fail to put the QB on the ground, or at least affect his throwing. defense. As an exampe, Iowa doesn't blitz often yet they play excellent defense.

They don't blitz often because they don't have the athletes to do so. We can't blitz from 10 yds off the LOS and expect to get to a mobile QB.

 

[N.M.B. Cane]

UM held VT to under 400 yards (394) while the O compiled 508. Not bad actually.

But Joaquin said to dominate!!

 

[ageezy]

You should delete this thread OP. Numbers lie all of the time and there was nothing about our defense the entire game that even was remotely dominant.

There’s no way anyone with at least 5 brain cells thought the defense dominated 2H.

Absolute troll or again, they don’t watch football outside Miami games.

guys ... the topic speaks to our second half defense over a 5 game span thus far ... for all of our shortcomings we only gave up 10pts in the second half ... those are facts ... add to it that we've only given up 20 second half points all year, that's **** good to this point