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I want one to take it too (hoping it's William), but Richt will play the best QB and I will support him and the team. Guys like you will actually pull against the team if Malik is the QB, and that's the **** I can't stand here from some of you whiners.
 
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anyone gloating about a false ranking of the #2 class in 2019 needs to be checked mentally. I like the potential of the class as we sit in good position with a lot of targets but as of now with the kids we have committed currently this aint it period......Need more blue chip players

Now the 2020 class? that class is elite and ive said that class would be better than 2019 before a few months back

We're also going to be letting players go from the 2019 class as Geo mentioned in another thread. This class will look different. Kids will be re-evaluated.
 
I want one to take it to (hoping it's William), but Richt will play the best QB and I will support him and the team. Guys like you will actually pull against the team if Malik is the QB, and that's the **** I can't stand here

That's where you're wrong. If Malik's the QB, I will be pulling for him and hoping I eat crow.

See, I'm actually able to view my team without homer goggles on. I also can take in someone else's point of view and change my opinion on a matter because I'm open-minded and accept that there could be someone more knowledgeable than I on a certain subject. This is a forum, players get criticized/praised all of the time here. Everyone has seen what we get with Malik and are worried about him as the starter come the 2018 season.

If Malik's the starter in 2018, I will support him and Richt. But I won't have expectations that we replicate our success as we did last season.
 
Fair enough, if true (I don't believe you, your personal hate for Rosier is too high). I honestly expect to see 12 under center vs. LSU
 
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Fair enough, if true (I don't believe you, your personal hate for Rosier is too high). I honestly expect to see 12 under center vs. LSU

I don't hate Rosier. Now you're trying to imply I do. I don't want him as a QB because I know the shortcomings that come with him and want to see my team succeed and later on get title #6. My belief is that in the long run, one of our other 3 QBs give us a better shot to get there (in no way do I think we win a title next season). I'd rather get the growing pains out of the way on the future QB. I also don't think there'd be that much of a drop off with Rosier compared to Williams as well as Perry (whom I think is behind Williams actually).
 
If Malik is the best option he will start, if he's not then the best option will. I can assure a Coach like Richt will not use your train of thought, and he shouldn't. Cocahes don't accept "growing pains", they put their team in the best position to WIN. PERIOD.
 
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If Malik is the best option he will start, if he's not then the best option will. I can assure a Coach like Richt will not use your train of thought, and he shouldn't. Cocahes don't accept "growing pains", they put their team in the best position to WIN. PERIOD.


Actually not completely true OC. Last year we had no choice but to accept "growing pains" regardless of who started.

Malik had only two games under his belt but it was enough for him to win over the incoming frosh ,Sherriffs and Allison. In no way could he have been called an experienced starter.....he had some small experiences starting which is different.

But in any case, IMO last year could and should be considered Miami undergoing "growing pains" at QB. To some degree we still are ....since ALL of our closely bunched QB prospects ( w/ Rosier currently leading as this year's starter ) are far from complete and ALL have much to still learn.

I don't envy CMR having to make this decision. There are advantages going either way. But I do think he'll start whoever gives us the best chance of winning and as a result since ALL are still learning that may change from game to game
 
It's a **** situation at QB. We have a senior who completes about 50% of his passes/throws bubble screens at receivers' feet/is only given about 20% of the playbook, & 2 talented but young guys. The best of the group is looking more & more like Jarren, a true FR.

I hate to be negative, but Richt should have better options by year 3. This team is loaded on offense (especially WR). Not having a QB (who's ready) to get them the ball is a travesty. I believe Richt when he says Malik is the best option RIGHT NOW, & it's a shame.

I hope (understatement) Kosi or Jarren "get it" by the fall & make the jump to start vs LSU, but my gut tells me Richt will ride with Malik, who apart from stinking up the stat sheet, gave him 3 big time wins & clutch play...until he lays another egg like he did vs Pitt.
 
You think Miami wins a ship in 2001 with Rosier?l

Absolutely.
Maybe we don't dominate, but we win it. Here's the thing, and this is not a knock on Ken Dorsey at all. Let me go ahead and put it up front before anybody goes to whining about it. Ken Dorsey is a better QB than Malik Rosier BY FAR.

But there might, MIGHT, be 10 guys from the 2017 team that would have seen any meaningful snaps on that 2001 team. We did not rely on Dorsey to win games. We didn't even really rely on Dorsey to make plays. Dorsey attempted 318 passes. 318 times the coaches asked Dorsey to go make a play. Malik Rosier had 415 passing attempts and 131 rushing attempts. 546 times last season we relied on Rosier to go make a play.

In 2001, not one time did the defense give up a lead in the 4th quarter. Not one time was Dorsey tasked with leading the team down the field and winning the game. We played three games that you might even be able to consider close games.

vs. FSU - W 49-27 - Dorsey was 51% passing
vs. VaTech - W 26-24 - Dorsey was 47% passing
vs. BC - W 18-7 - Dorsey was 48% passing

The biggest difference between that team and the 2017 team? Defense and O-line play. Last season we had a running back break 100 yards only 4 times. Bethune, Toledo, GaTech, and Notre Dame. 9 times we failed to have a back gain 100 yards. 4 times we didn't have a back break 50 yards. And twice Malik Rosier was our leading rusher. Against Pitt, that game everyone likes to pin solely on Rosier, Homer led all backs with 12 yards. 12 ******* YARDS AGAINST PITT! And don't give me that nonsense about teams loading the box to stop the run. I don't give a **** if they put 12 in the box. If our line can't manage more than 12 yards of push in 60 minutes against Pitt, that O-line is trash.

Everybody knew GaTech couldn't throw the ball and was just gonna line it up and run the football. They ranked 3rd in rushing YPG.
Everybody knew Notre Dame couldn't throw the ball and was just gonna line it up and run the football. They ranked 8th in rushing YPG.
Everybody knew UGA couldn't throw the ball and was just gonna line it up and run the football. They ranked 9th in rushing YPG.
Everybody knew Bama couldn't throw the ball and was just gonna line it up and run the football. They ranked 10th in rushing YPG.
Everybody knew Ohio State couldn't throw the ball and was just gonna line it up and run the football. They ranked 15th in rushing YPG.
Auburn was 21st.
Wisconsin was 22nd.
LSU 28th.

All of these teams, the recipe to beating them was the same. Stop the run and force their QB to beat you with his arm.

We were 79th in rushing YPG! And that's WITH Rosier breaking the single season record for rushing from the QB spot. 133 YPG. That is garbage.

The reason we won a championship in 2001 with Dorsey's 56% completion rate is because they had a phenomenal defense and O-line. That team averaged 204 rushing YPG. That was good enough to be right there with LSU this season. We had a back break 100 yards in 10 out of 12 games, and the only game we were held under 50 was a blow out against Troy where we had everyone on the bench.

It's funny. At the start of last season, we knew what Rosier's limitations were. This board was full of dooms day prophets who said we were too thin at RB. Walton has no proven back up. If he goes down and we have to rely on Rosier we'll be lucky to win 7 or 8 games. Rosier and winning 10 games was a pleasant surprise. Homer doing what he was able to do even after Walton went down was a pleasant surprise. Berrios stepping up and being THE guy at receiver when we couldn't rely on Richards was a pleasant surprise.

If you had told this board at the beginning of last season that we were going to lose Walton, be without Richards for the majority of the year, and lose Herndon down the stretch, and still win 10 games, get to the ACCCG and the Orange Bowl, you would have been laughed out of town. ****, many people thought those accomplishments were beyond our reach even IF fully healthy.
 
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Actually not completely true OC. Last year we had no choice but to accept "growing pains" regardless of who started.

Malik had only two games under his belt but it was enough for him to win over the incoming frosh ,Sherriffs and Allison. In no way could he have been called an experienced starter.....he had some small experiences starting which is different.

But in any case, IMO last year could and should be considered Miami undergoing "growing pains" at QB. To some degree we still are ....since ALL of our closely bunched QB prospects ( w/ Rosier currently leading as this year's starter ) are far from complete and ALL have much to still learn.

I don't envy CMR having to make this decision. There are advantages going either way. But I do think he'll start whoever gives us the best chance of winning and as a result since ALL are still learning that may change from game to game
Yes, but I'm referring to actually choosing "growing pains", he had no option last year. He won't and shouldn't sacrifice a single victory to get a more talented "prospect" under center. That's not fair to the team.
 
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I watched the Pitt game again last night.

The entire team pretty much sucked. Bad angles - we couldn't keep their QB contained - they ran through us like crap through a goose - we looked slow and lethargic - we were ranked #2 at the time and I think the team went up there expecting to win, instead of winning.

And Rosier did us few favors.
 
I watched the Pitt game again last night.

The entire team pretty much sucked. Bad angles - we couldn't keep their QB contained - they ran through us like crap through a goose - we looked slow and lethargic - we were ranked #2 at the time and I think the team went up there expecting to win, instead of winning.

And Rosier did us few favors.
Do you think our leading running back managing 12 yards did us any favors? Honest question. I, myself, did not realize how bad we were running the ball when I watched it live. Rosier's poor play stood out most watching live, I'll agree. But 12 yards? Maybe we were having an inaccurate QB with a hurt shoulder and none of his top targets in the line up to do too much because we couldn't run the ball.
 
Our trench guys played 10 weeks straight without a break and some key players out, and many others playing hurt. We looked tired, slow, and unfocused at every position.
 
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You think Miami wins a ship in 2001 with Rosier? Na, Qb is and will always be the most important position/aspect in football
Yes that year I think we win with Rosier, with all those nfl hall of famers? **** yea and Im a big Malik critic........bama qbs r trash except till now. They won with NFL caliber players everywhere else
 
Yes, but I'm referring to actually choosing "growing pains", he had no option last year. He won't and shouldn't sacrifice a single victory to get a more talented "prospect" under center. That's not fair to the team.

Yes it seems we're talking two totally different points.

I focused on your "coaches don't accept growing pains"because in actually sometimes like last year they have to accept.
 
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Do you think our leading running back managing 12 yards did us any favors? Honest question. I, myself, did not realize how bad we were running the ball when I watched it live. Rosier's poor play stood out most watching live, I'll agree. But 12 yards? Maybe we were having an inaccurate QB with a hurt shoulder and none of his top targets in the line up to do too much because we couldn't run the ball.
Just Curious @HitStick2620, what part do you disagree with? Do you think 12 yards from the running back position is adequate? Do you believe Rosier is the type of QB who can go out and win a game when we only get 12 yards from our starting tail back?
 
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