Response to Hurricane Club Fundraising Email

[Angry Ibis]

To pout and stomp your feet and say you're not going to support the team until they start winning as much as you want them to seems a lot more childish to me. If my kid came back with a bad report card, I might get angry at him, yell a bit to put the fear of God into them but I won't tell them to start studying and get better grades and then come back to me. I would sit down with him and help him study and try to improve until he gets better grades. Because the Canes have some issues, I'm not going to to stop supporting them in the only way I can as a fan to punish them or send them a message. How can I as a fan help the Canes during this time? I don't think the answer is to stop supporting them and berating their every move.

#1- You have a vested interest and some amount of control over your child-- the ability to influence the outcome. We have none of that as fans who follow the program. The only way we "affect" change is with our words and our wallets.

#2- to stop financially supporting them is really the only way to get their attention-- unless Blake James plans on holding focus groups. To continue to support this program with your dollars, given the obvious changes that should be undertaken-- but the HC refuses to entertain-- to "support" this monetarily is akin to throwing money at the problem. Your aiding and abetting-- rewarding mediocrity. What part of this don't you get???????

#3- ".... to put and stomp our feet until the team wins?" Have you actually watched these games? Don't you find it maddening? And it's not like we're snake bit and its something new each week that jumps up and beats us. Its US-- our own team, the pitiful defensive scheme that shows itself week in, week out, that's a unmitigated disaster-- and a HC who refuses to acknowledge it, let lone take action to rectify it. Why? B/c his buddy is the DC.... dereliction of duty. Period.

What color is the sky in your world, really?

Just because the sky is falling in your world doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to support the program in his.

So is there a breaking point in the I'm going to withhold money to prove a point movement?
-at what point do you then become part of the problem and not part of the solution?
-at what point does your ability to complain and make change become neutered because you are part of the ****ing but not helping crowd?

Just asking.

Sounds more like you're "just saying" if you ask me. But I'll play along.

My comments in no way restrict his ability to support the team as he see's fit. So I haven't infringed on anyone's "right" as you insinuate. I simply was pointing out what I saw as flawed logic, or a point of view counter to his. My take is clear.

I find it interesting that people who blindly support the program hold themselves out as the "voices of reason" and then attempt to paint people who are critical of it as "Chicken Littles" (e.g the sky is falling). To my thinking, the sky already fell-- it happened when we lost to VT. That was my personal breaking point-- and followed a GT game that was far too close. The 3 TDs in the last 6 minutes obscured (ever so briefly) the real problems I was beginning to see with this coaching staff.

I suspect other people who feel the way I do- their sky fell subsequently with Duke, then the bowl game, then Golden's intransigence/denial about how bad our D really is-- and his failure to zip his best bud and DC.

I'm the problem!? You didn't really just lay down that tired, radical 60's slogan did you????? I'm one man on a message board. I can only HOPE to "affect" change. The real problem with our program sits in an office at the Hecht. They're they ones with the keys, pulling the levers. Nice try, but if anything, vocal people who are critical of the status quo stand a better chance of "affecting" real change than those who stand by "hoping" things improve.

Your last comment-- why is it you assume critical comments and complaining will become neutered? So let me understand, by going along to get along, I'm helping to fix things and this will foster positive change? I cant recall an instance where a much needed change came about by standing by, idly. Change almost always comes about with a clash of ideas and an upsetting of the status quo. Remaining silent is a tacit approval of the state of affairs.

Not everything needs to be a battle here so I am not going to argue with you over inferences, perception or interpretation.

I asked related 3 questions:
Is there a breaking point in the I'm going to withhold money to prove a point movement?

At what point do you then become part of the problem and not part of the solution?

At what point does your ability to complain and make change become neutered because you are part of the ****ing but not helping crowd?

To my questions -
- I am not saying anyone is part of the problem by questioning the man and withholding finances to do so.
- I am asking, with the underlying point being resources.

If you are withholding money, it decreases the resources the school and team have to make improvements. So the Victory Fund, for example, is trying to raise money for specific improvements that will benefit the team. Is withholding funds from that program helping the overall situation or potentially making it worse if that fund goal is not achieved?

That is the breaking point I am referencing --- to attempt to get Coach D fired, I will withhold money, by withholding money, I am willing to sacrifice improvements to better the football team.

To the point about being neutered --- one will always have the ability to complain, but unless they are willing to be creative, helpful and productive, many times those complaints will be ignored. With the number of angry messages, coupled with incoherent nonsense that the AD and office are receiving these days, my fear would be that those trying to bring thoughtful solutions to the discussion will be grouped in with the mindless ramblings of others with less productive goals and therefore ignored.

 

[NaplesCane]

I've already decided that I'm not buying season tickets and will buy them on a game by game basis. If I see the same crappy zone defense that we have gotten accustomed to for the past three years then my attendance to games will be short lived and I hope the fan base follows the same route as we did for the USF Game when Shannon was head coach. What people don't understand is that we don't have a ton of top tier boosters that sit down with the AD and voice their displeasure. Instead we have to come together as a whole as a fan base and voice our displeasure by not attending games. That is how we get our voice across. Change happens when donations suffer. I stopped donating at the end Shannons tenure because I wanted change. As soon as change was made, I was the first one with the wallet open for donations. All this has occurred because Golden wants to protect his failing philosophy and friend.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

I've already decided that I'm not buying season tickets and will buy them on a game by game basis. If I see the same crappy zone defense that we have gotten accustomed to for the past three years then my attendance to games will be short lived and I hope the fan base follows the same route as we did for the USF Game when Shannon was head coach. What people don't understand is that we don't have a ton of top tier boosters that sit down with the AD and voice their displeasure. Instead we have to come together as a whole as a fan base and voice our displeasure by not attending games. That is how we get our voice across. Change happens when donations suffer. I stopped donating at the end Shannons tenure because I wanted change. As soon as change was made, I was the first one with the wallet open for donations. All this has occurred because Golden wants to protect his failing philosophy and friend.

This is the very definition of being a "fair weather fan".

 

[whoopingcane]

I've already decided that I'm not buying season tickets and will buy them on a game by game basis. If I see the same crappy zone defense that we have gotten accustomed to for the past three years then my attendance to games will be short lived and I hope the fan base follows the same route as we did for the USF Game when Shannon was head coach. What people don't understand is that we don't have a ton of top tier boosters that sit down with the AD and voice their displeasure. Instead we have to come together as a whole as a fan base and voice our displeasure by not attending games. That is how we get our voice across. Change happens when donations suffer. I stopped donating at the end Shannons tenure because I wanted change. As soon as change was made, I was the first one with the wallet open for donations. All this has occurred because Golden wants to protect his failing philosophy and friend.

This is the very definition of being a "fair weather fan".

Congrats on being one of the 20k ****** weather fans.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

I've already decided that I'm not buying season tickets and will buy them on a game by game basis. If I see the same crappy zone defense that we have gotten accustomed to for the past three years then my attendance to games will be short lived and I hope the fan base follows the same route as we did for the USF Game when Shannon was head coach. What people don't understand is that we don't have a ton of top tier boosters that sit down with the AD and voice their displeasure. Instead we have to come together as a whole as a fan base and voice our displeasure by not attending games. That is how we get our voice across. Change happens when donations suffer. I stopped donating at the end Shannons tenure because I wanted change. As soon as change was made, I was the first one with the wallet open for donations. All this has occurred because Golden wants to protect his failing philosophy and friend.

This is the very definition of being a "fair weather fan".

Congrats on being one of the 20k ****ty weather fans.

LOL. Justify it however you want, you guys are the very epitome of "fair weather fan". "Im not going to go to games if we arent winning?" Way to be a "fan".

 

[Miami82]

I've already decided that I'm not buying season tickets and will buy them on a game by game basis. If I see the same crappy zone defense that we have gotten accustomed to for the past three years then my attendance to games will be short lived and I hope the fan base follows the same route as we did for the USF Game when Shannon was head coach. What people don't understand is that we don't have a ton of top tier boosters that sit down with the AD and voice their displeasure. Instead we have to come together as a whole as a fan base and voice our displeasure by not attending games. That is how we get our voice across. Change happens when donations suffer. I stopped donating at the end Shannons tenure because I wanted change. As soon as change was made, I was the first one with the wallet open for donations. All this has occurred because Golden wants to protect his failing philosophy and friend.

This is the very definition of being a "fair weather fan".

That's BS and you know it. This isn't Golden's 1st year. We have 3 years of this bull**** defense. The product isn't improving. If we had a administration that had a clue they would force change.

 

[Hobokane]

To pout and stomp your feet and say you're not going to support the team until they start winning as much as you want them to seems a lot more childish to me. If my kid came back with a bad report card, I might get angry at him, yell a bit to put the fear of God into them but I won't tell them to start studying and get better grades and then come back to me. I would sit down with him and help him study and try to improve until he gets better grades. Because the Canes have some issues, I'm not going to to stop supporting them in the only way I can as a fan to punish them or send them a message. How can I as a fan help the Canes during this time? I don't think the answer is to stop supporting them and berating their every move.

I see your point, you're looking at this from a more global standpoint... and IMO, probably too idealistically. I'm looking at this from a very narrow point of view, I'll admit it. Maybe shortsightedly. That said, rightly, or wrongly, I feel that pumping money into the program alone doesn't make any difference if the right parts are not in place. We agree to disagree. Not that your points don't have merit, I just don't see it the same way.

flame war extinguished.

#1- You have a vested interest and some amount of control over your child-- the ability to influence the outcome. We have none of that as fans who follow the program. The only way we "affect" change is with our words and our wallets.

#2- to stop financially supporting them is really the only way to get their attention-- unless Blake James plans on holding focus groups. To continue to support this program with your dollars, given the obvious changes that should be undertaken-- but the HC refuses to entertain-- to "support" this monetarily is akin to throwing money at the problem. Your aiding and abetting-- rewarding mediocrity. What part of this don't you get???????

#3- ".... to put and stomp our feet until the team wins?" Have you actually watched these games? Don't you find it maddening? And it's not like we're snake bit and its something new each week that jumps up and beats us. Its US-- our own team, the pitiful defensive scheme that shows itself week in, week out, that's a unmitigated disaster-- and a HC who refuses to acknowledge it, let lone take action to rectify it. Why? B/c his buddy is the DC.... dereliction of duty. Period.

What color is the sky in your world, really?

Just because the sky is falling in your world doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to support the program in his.

So is there a breaking point in the I'm going to withhold money to prove a point movement?
-at what point do you then become part of the problem and not part of the solution?
-at what point does your ability to complain and make change become neutered because you are part of the ****ing but not helping crowd?

Just asking.

Sounds more like you're "just saying" if you ask me. But I'll play along.

My comments in no way restrict his ability to support the team as he see's fit. So I haven't infringed on anyone's "right" as you insinuate. I simply was pointing out what I saw as flawed logic, or a point of view counter to his. My take is clear.

I find it interesting that people who blindly support the program hold themselves out as the "voices of reason" and then attempt to paint people who are critical of it as "Chicken Littles" (e.g the sky is falling). To my thinking, the sky already fell-- it happened when we lost to VT. That was my personal breaking point-- and followed a GT game that was far too close. The 3 TDs in the last 6 minutes obscured (ever so briefly) the real problems I was beginning to see with this coaching staff.

I suspect other people who feel the way I do- their sky fell subsequently with Duke, then the bowl game, then Golden's intransigence/denial about how bad our D really is-- and his failure to zip his best bud and DC.

I'm the problem!? You didn't really just lay down that tired, radical 60's slogan did you????? I'm one man on a message board. I can only HOPE to "affect" change. The real problem with our program sits in an office at the Hecht. They're they ones with the keys, pulling the levers. Nice try, but if anything, vocal people who are critical of the status quo stand a better chance of "affecting" real change than those who stand by "hoping" things improve.

Your last comment-- why is it you assume critical comments and complaining will become neutered? So let me understand, by going along to get along, I'm helping to fix things and this will foster positive change? I cant recall an instance where a much needed change came about by standing by, idly. Change almost always comes about with a clash of ideas and an upsetting of the status quo. Remaining silent is a tacit approval of the state of affairs.

Not everything needs to be a battle here so I am not going to argue with you over inferences, perception or interpretation.

I asked related 3 questions:
Is there a breaking point in the I'm going to withhold money to prove a point movement?

At what point do you then become part of the problem and not part of the solution?

At what point does your ability to complain and make change become neutered because you are part of the ****ing but not helping crowd?

To my questions -
- I am not saying anyone is part of the problem by questioning the man and withholding finances to do so.
- I am asking, with the underlying point being resources.

If you are withholding money, it decreases the resources the school and team have to make improvements. So the Victory Fund, for example, is trying to raise money for specific improvements that will benefit the team. Is withholding funds from that program helping the overall situation or potentially making it worse if that fund goal is not achieved?

That is the breaking point I am referencing --- to attempt to get Coach D fired, I will withhold money, by withholding money, I am willing to sacrifice improvements to better the football team.

To the point about being neutered --- one will always have the ability to complain, but unless they are willing to be creative, helpful and productive, many times those complaints will be ignored. With the number of angry messages, coupled with incoherent nonsense that the AD and office are receiving these days, my fear would be that those trying to bring thoughtful solutions to the discussion will be grouped in with the mindless ramblings of others with less productive goals and therefore ignored.

I see where you're coming from, and I guess you're looking at this from a more global perspective-- IMO a bit idealistically. I'm coming at this from a very narrow point of view, I'll admit it.

It's not that your approach doesn't have merits. It could well be true. That said, if your solution is to continue pouring money into the program, I don't think that accomplishes what you think/hope it will. Why? Because the money only benefits the team if the right parts are in place. To my thinking, they're just not there and that money is squandered-- meaning the player development doesn't get better b/c the coaching style/methods don't change...thus the product on the field doesn't improve proportionally to the amount of revenue that is gained.

We can agree to disagree. I'm not some moonbat who dashes off incoherent diatribes to the AD, etc. I'm just one person with an opinion, with a lot of facts and data to support my claim. How its disseminated is only matters if someone reads it. Like I said they aren't holding focus groups at the Hecht so I don't know that anything I do will bring about the desired end result. I just can't get behind this program (monetarily) as its presently constituted.

Flame war extinguished.

 

[Angry Ibis]

I see your point, you're looking at this from a more global standpoint... and IMO, probably too idealistically. I'm looking at this from a very narrow point of view, I'll admit it. Maybe shortsightedly. That said, rightly, or wrongly, I feel that pumping money into the program alone doesn't make any difference if the right parts are not in place. We agree to disagree. Not that your points don't have merit, I just don't see it the same way.

flame war extinguished.

#1- You have a vested interest and some amount of control over your child-- the ability to influence the outcome. We have none of that as fans who follow the program. The only way we "affect" change is with our words and our wallets.

#2- to stop financially supporting them is really the only way to get their attention-- unless Blake James plans on holding focus groups. To continue to support this program with your dollars, given the obvious changes that should be undertaken-- but the HC refuses to entertain-- to "support" this monetarily is akin to throwing money at the problem. Your aiding and abetting-- rewarding mediocrity. What part of this don't you get???????

#3- ".... to put and stomp our feet until the team wins?" Have you actually watched these games? Don't you find it maddening? And it's not like we're snake bit and its something new each week that jumps up and beats us. Its US-- our own team, the pitiful defensive scheme that shows itself week in, week out, that's a unmitigated disaster-- and a HC who refuses to acknowledge it, let lone take action to rectify it. Why? B/c his buddy is the DC.... dereliction of duty. Period.

What color is the sky in your world, really?

Just because the sky is falling in your world doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to support the program in his.

So is there a breaking point in the I'm going to withhold money to prove a point movement?
-at what point do you then become part of the problem and not part of the solution?
-at what point does your ability to complain and make change become neutered because you are part of the ****ing but not helping crowd?

Just asking.

Sounds more like you're "just saying" if you ask me. But I'll play along.

My comments in no way restrict his ability to support the team as he see's fit. So I haven't infringed on anyone's "right" as you insinuate. I simply was pointing out what I saw as flawed logic, or a point of view counter to his. My take is clear.

I find it interesting that people who blindly support the program hold themselves out as the "voices of reason" and then attempt to paint people who are critical of it as "Chicken Littles" (e.g the sky is falling). To my thinking, the sky already fell-- it happened when we lost to VT. That was my personal breaking point-- and followed a GT game that was far too close. The 3 TDs in the last 6 minutes obscured (ever so briefly) the real problems I was beginning to see with this coaching staff.

I suspect other people who feel the way I do- their sky fell subsequently with Duke, then the bowl game, then Golden's intransigence/denial about how bad our D really is-- and his failure to zip his best bud and DC.

I'm the problem!? You didn't really just lay down that tired, radical 60's slogan did you????? I'm one man on a message board. I can only HOPE to "affect" change. The real problem with our program sits in an office at the Hecht. They're they ones with the keys, pulling the levers. Nice try, but if anything, vocal people who are critical of the status quo stand a better chance of "affecting" real change than those who stand by "hoping" things improve.

Your last comment-- why is it you assume critical comments and complaining will become neutered? So let me understand, by going along to get along, I'm helping to fix things and this will foster positive change? I cant recall an instance where a much needed change came about by standing by, idly. Change almost always comes about with a clash of ideas and an upsetting of the status quo. Remaining silent is a tacit approval of the state of affairs.

Not everything needs to be a battle here so I am not going to argue with you over inferences, perception or interpretation.

I asked related 3 questions:
Is there a breaking point in the I'm going to withhold money to prove a point movement?

At what point do you then become part of the problem and not part of the solution?

At what point does your ability to complain and make change become neutered because you are part of the ****ing but not helping crowd?

To my questions -
- I am not saying anyone is part of the problem by questioning the man and withholding finances to do so.
- I am asking, with the underlying point being resources.

If you are withholding money, it decreases the resources the school and team have to make improvements. So the Victory Fund, for example, is trying to raise money for specific improvements that will benefit the team. Is withholding funds from that program helping the overall situation or potentially making it worse if that fund goal is not achieved?

That is the breaking point I am referencing --- to attempt to get Coach D fired, I will withhold money, by withholding money, I am willing to sacrifice improvements to better the football team.

To the point about being neutered --- one will always have the ability to complain, but unless they are willing to be creative, helpful and productive, many times those complaints will be ignored. With the number of angry messages, coupled with incoherent nonsense that the AD and office are receiving these days, my fear would be that those trying to bring thoughtful solutions to the discussion will be grouped in with the mindless ramblings of others with less productive goals and therefore ignored.

I see where you're coming from, and I guess you're looking at this from a more global perspective-- IMO a bit idealistically. I'm coming at this from a very narrow point of view, I'll admit it.

It's not that your approach doesn't have merits. It could well be true. That said, if your solution is to continue pouring money into the program, I don't think that accomplishes what you think/hope it will. Why? Because the money only benefits the team if the right parts are in place. To my thinking, they're just not there and that money is squandered-- meaning the player development doesn't get better b/c the coaching style/methods don't change...thus the product on the field doesn't improve proportionally to the amount of revenue that is gained.

We can agree to disagree. I'm not some moonbat who dashes off incoherent diatribes to the AD, etc. I'm just one person with an opinion, with a lot of facts and data to support my claim. How its disseminated is only matters if someone reads it. Like I said they aren't holding focus groups at the Hecht so I don't know that anything I do will bring about the desired end result. I just can't get behind this program (monetarily) as its presently constituted.

Flame war extinguished.

We are cool. I don't think we are all that far apart on ideas and I wasn't trying to group your response and data in with some of the insanity that I feel will arrive on Blake James' desk. To that end, I have the email up on my desktop ready to go, but am digesting the best way to make my suggestions and my point.

 

[NaplesCane]

I've already decided that I'm not buying season tickets and will buy them on a game by game basis. If I see the same crappy zone defense that we have gotten accustomed to for the past three years then my attendance to games will be short lived and I hope the fan base follows the same route as we did for the USF Game when Shannon was head coach. What people don't understand is that we don't have a ton of top tier boosters that sit down with the AD and voice their displeasure. Instead we have to come together as a whole as a fan base and voice our displeasure by not attending games. That is how we get our voice across. Change happens when donations suffer. I stopped donating at the end Shannons tenure because I wanted change. As soon as change was made, I was the first one with the wallet open for donations. All this has occurred because Golden wants to protect his failing philosophy and friend.

This is the very definition of being a "fair weather fan".

Let me see I have been a season ticket holder for 11 years straight. I went to every game last year except FSU and NC. Now I'm a fair weather fan. What you don't understand is that we are being held hostage due to the defensive philosophy. **** even Randy got rid of Walton after the 1st year he sucked. Explain to me why we have such a hard time changing a philosophy that is failing. If I started producing a product that didn't meet client expectations do you think my clients are going to keep buying/donating monies to my company. The answer is no.

 

[Marcelo2988]

It's not that difficult. If you want change you boycott. It's been a historically effective strategy to force change. If you are not happy with Golden or Dorito then boycotting can get across what you want. It doesn't mean you are a fair weather fan. That's just stupid to say that.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

One bad defensive coordinator is not going to change my love for the Hurricanes or make me stop supporting them by not contributing to the Hurricane Club.

Truth

The problem is A LOT deeper than one coordinator.

Add to that list:

One ****** *** head coach who can't gameplan for **** and is underperfoming on the recruiting front
One hobbit that doesn't give a **** about football and won't hire people around her that actually KNOW football to make good decisions for her.
A powerless puppet of an AD (but this is kinda tied into the point above)

Other than that...yeah....we're a Dorito firing away from big things.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

I've already decided that I'm not buying season tickets and will buy them on a game by game basis. If I see the same crappy zone defense that we have gotten accustomed to for the past three years then my attendance to games will be short lived and I hope the fan base follows the same route as we did for the USF Game when Shannon was head coach. What people don't understand is that we don't have a ton of top tier boosters that sit down with the AD and voice their displeasure. Instead we have to come together as a whole as a fan base and voice our displeasure by not attending games. That is how we get our voice across. Change happens when donations suffer. I stopped donating at the end Shannons tenure because I wanted change. As soon as change was made, I was the first one with the wallet open for donations. All this has occurred because Golden wants to protect his failing philosophy and friend.

This is the very definition of being a "fair weather fan".

Since when is challenging the current ****** regime and CARING about the program and being fed up with the **** that has gone on here the last 10 years being a fair weather fan?

Your definition is completely ****ed up. If you think kissing the current regime's *** is going to get you a job as Don Bailey jr's caddy.....then keep doing your thing.

 

[VA_Cane_54]

Respect.

 

[GoldCane]

sent a similar email in response to the Ray hurricane club email sent out and just received a phone call today to "discuss my email to the Hurricane Club." Anyone else getting follow up calls to your emails?

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

sent a similar email in response to the Ray hurricane club email sent out and just received a phone call today to "discuss my email to the Hurricane Club." Anyone else getting follow up calls to your emails?

I got a call as well but was in a meeting. I'll call back tommorrow and let them know how happy I am that we're trending up.

 

[Miami82]

sent a similar email in response to the Ray hurricane club email sent out and just received a phone call today to "discuss my email to the Hurricane Club." Anyone else getting follow up calls to your emails?

I got a call as well but was in a meeting. I'll call back tommorrow and let them know how happy I am that we're trending up.

I find it odd they are following up with the disgruntled fans. I've heard of them meeting as well. That's odd because in this thread alone I'm told I should bury my head and just open my check book. I mean that's what a real fan does, right???

 

[Hobokane]

sent a similar email in response to the Ray hurricane club email sent out and just received a phone call today to "discuss my email to the Hurricane Club." Anyone else getting follow up calls to your emails?

I got a call as well but was in a meeting. I'll call back tommorrow and let them know how happy I am that we're trending up.

I find it odd they are following up with the disgruntled fans. I've heard of them meeting as well. That's odd because in this thread alone I'm told I should bury my head and just open my check book. I mean that's what a real fan does, right???

I'm borderline "shocked" that they are acting on this.... maybe there's hope yet. (unless its a pat on the head and appeasement.) Q: for anyone who's been called-- have you guys been regular annual donors? Just curious if there's any correlation as to the feedback versus callbacks.

 

[MGreen26]

sent a similar email in response to the Ray hurricane club email sent out and just received a phone call today to "discuss my email to the Hurricane Club." Anyone else getting follow up calls to your emails?

I got a call as well but was in a meeting. I'll call back tommorrow and let them know how happy I am that we're trending up.

I find it odd they are following up with the disgruntled fans. I've heard of them meeting as well. That's odd because in this thread alone I'm told I should bury my head and just open my check book. I mean that's what a real fan does, right???

I'm borderline "shocked" that they are acting on this.... maybe there's hope yet. (unless its a pat on the head and appeasement.) Q: for anyone who's been called-- have you guys been regular annual donors? Just curious if there's any correlation as to the feedback versus callbacks.

I got an e-mail response from someone at the hurricane club. The subject referenced my e-mail and my online post. This means the athletic department -- probably a low level staffer - is monitoring these boards and is aware of the general feeling on here. I will post the response which was canned, but appreciated when I get a chance. I will reply and try to have a productive dialogue. There is nothing to lose by voicing an opinion (right or wrong) in a respectful fashion. I get people's positions on boycotting/attending/donating. To be clear, I will not miss a game, but I will not give any extra. Until the administration makes a real and competent commitment to football, I am reluctant to donate funds which I know will be spent elsewhere.

 

[TheProgram]

Well said OP. Any argument that you are somehow less of a fan for holding the administration accountable by withholding $$$ is parochial and stupid.

The ONLY way they will respond to us is if we keep our money. No one here can really think they give a f*** about a harshly worded letter. They do not. They dont care about us either. They care about $$$.

Nice work OP. We need more sense like that in the fan base.

 

[Notsince1985]

I've already decided that I'm not buying season tickets and will buy them on a game by game basis. If I see the same crappy zone defense that we have gotten accustomed to for the past three years then my attendance to games will be short lived and I hope the fan base follows the same route as we did for the USF Game when Shannon was head coach. What people don't understand is that we don't have a ton of top tier boosters that sit down with the AD and voice their displeasure. Instead we have to come together as a whole as a fan base and voice our displeasure by not attending games. That is how we get our voice across. Change happens when donations suffer. I stopped donating at the end Shannons tenure because I wanted change. As soon as change was made, I was the first one with the wallet open for donations. All this has occurred because Golden wants to protect his failing philosophy and friend.

This is the very definition of being a "fair weather fan".

No, it's actually not. Fair weather means supporting a team only when they're winning because you just like a winner, and staying home when the team is losing because you don't like a loser. Boycotting games and not donating to try and force a change is not that.

But, congratulations on your first ever post without caps lock