Ray-Ray Armstrong to file injunction

[Canesfan1899]

Well I think letting him practice now would just be awkward for everybody involved.

This!

 

[japancane]

I can't believe this thread has lasted 6 pages.

If Ray Ray were allowed to come back, this would be the worst precedent a judge could ever set. Dude is still going to be allowed to graduate.

Seantrel is heading down this road fast; he'd be a bigger loss but if he were kicked off the team, I could totally understand why, same as RRA

 

[getcaned]

How is this not a bad situation? Ray Ray was kicked off the team by Golden for repeated dumbassery. Ray Ray had multiple opportunities to get his **** together and he didn't. Golden was fed up and gave him the boot. You think Ray Ray filing a lawsuit is gonna make Golden forget why he was given the boot? I don't.

Also, Ray Ray ready to break out? If I recall from the spring game he was still looking bad out there. What makes you think he was ready to break out?

Repeated dumbassery is missing summer workouts and the first 4 practices of fall. Who Ray Ray shacks up with and goes to dinner with one night is not the NCAA's business. What he did on the internet may have been stupid at the wrong time but he doesn't deserve to be kicked off the team for it Senior Season after he stuck with the team and didn't try to go pro like the other juniors who declared.

Continuing to do stuff and post pictures of him doing that stuff on social media when the coaches told him to stop is dumbassery. Best for both parties to move on.

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Continuing to do stuff and posting pictures of that stuff? Again, who Ray Ray dates and what they do on those dates is not a violation. Dating somebody has nothing to do with benefits from Miami to gain a competitive advantage. The NCAA isn't god. It isn't best for both parties to move on when you're talking about kid being disenfranchised of his education and his senior year of football when he didn't violate NCAA rules. That's exactly what isn't supposed with the NCAA but they can't get anything right.

He was suspended last year mid-season for breaking team rules. He again broke those rules this year. I don't see why this is tough to understand. Coaches told him to stop, he didn't, he broke team rules and is now off the team. Not sure why you keep bringing up the NCAA. Posting Rivals quotes isn't fact, read between the lines, it's not hard to see what happened

I wish him the best but he screwed up.

he also lied to the school when asked about it. then stated "he felt pressured to not be honest for fear of getting suspended" well if you weren't being an idiot you wouldn't have had to worry about it. if you didn't tweet instagram or what ever self glorifying social media he used you wouldn't be worrying about it because no one would have known. He wants to have all eyes on him and well he got them and that why he got the boot. The squeaky wheel got greased.

 

[Canesfan1899]

I can't believe this thread has lasted 6 pages.

If Ray Ray were allowed to come back, this would be the worst precedent a judge could ever set. Dude is still going to be allowed to graduate.

Seantrel is heading down this road fast; he'd be a bigger loss but if he were kicked off the team, I could totally understand why, same as RRA

Agreed, we gave him noe transfer restrictions, find a 1AA school, play out the year and take your shot at the NFL.

Does he really think he's going to get much PT if he's reinstated by a judge? Is he going to sue because he's 3rd team?

 

[MedleyCane]

Anyone else realize that these lawyers representing RaryRay are diehard GayTurd supporters?
I smell a rat.

 

[whoopingcane]

I'm considering filing an injunction with the NCAA to give me the last 9 years back and also to give permanent show causes to the majority of the coaching staffs during this tenure.

I will settle for free lifetime golden hurricane status.

 

[maximegauthierl]

Nuff said.

 

[getcaned]

I'm considering filing an injunction with the NCAA to give me the last 9 years back and also to give permanent show causes to the majority of the coaching staffs during this tenure.

I will settle for free lifetime golden hurricane status.

we should have a class action lawsuit for all the season ticket holders that had to endure the abuse they were making us watch. cruel and unusual punishment.

 

[ScubaCane]

What am I missing?

Breaks rules gets suspended.
Breaks rules again gets suspended
Breaks rules again ... Then lies about it ... Gets kicked off team

Why should he get a fifth chance? Just say he broke team rules and be done with it. Move on!

I'd like to see these rules you guys claim Ray Ray broke. Posting pics on facebook of a date with his girlfriend is breaking rules? GTFOOH?

Why does it matter what the rules are, if they are team rules he needs to follow them. Ray Ray blew his chance, he needs to just go away

 

[Soul Cane]

This ridiculous. Does this crap happen at other schools? Kids get dismissed all the time for much less than what RR did. Dude is looking so pathetic. I was actually going to root for him to somehow make it in the league still, but probably not now.

I don't even think they would have any legal recourse even if Miami was a public institution. It's not though. Miami is a private school. They can probably dismiss you for giving Donna a nasty look if they feel like it.

The whole lawsuit is nonsense.

The Supreme Court has already ruled the NCAA doesn't have to impose due process in its proceedings. So RR's suit is based on bullshyte right off the bat.

And a NCAA school can revoke a football scholarship at any time they want. Look at the SEC, they kick players off their teams all the time just because they aren't very good players, not because they broke any school rules. And RR broke rules at the very least by initially lying to UM.

This Orlando law firm fully realizes this is a dog of a lawsuit. RR's father is just wasting his money and further deteroriating his son's reputation by pursuing this action.

 

[TheU1991]

I can't believe this thread has lasted 6 pages.

If Ray Ray were allowed to come back, this would be the worst precedent a judge could ever set. Dude is still going to be allowed to graduate.

Seantrel is heading down this road fast; he'd be a bigger loss but if he were kicked off the team, I could totally understand why, same as RRA

Agreed, we gave him noe transfer restrictions, find a 1AA school, play out the year and take your shot at the NFL.

Does he really think he's going to get much PT if he's reinstated by a judge? Is he going to sue because he's 3rd team?

lol he's just mad because he's not getting any legit offers from anyone else in the country... and rightfully so. he also knows that NFL scouts see past espn's dumb mock drafts that list him as the second best safety in the nation. trying to fight to get back on the team is pretty much his only option if he wants to keep playing at a relatively decent level.

 

[VinnDogg]

. There was talk that the call to kick him from the team came from Shalala. If so that would probably make sense why Ray is seeking an appeal. He may know that coach didn't want him gone for good. Either way Al should bring it before the team and let them vote on if Ray should be allowed back and at what internal punishment if any should be meted out.

 

[edge]

. There was talk that the call to kick him from the team came from Shalala. If so that would probably make sense why Ray is seeking an appeal. He may know that coach didn't want him gone for good. Either way Al should bring it before the team and let them vote on if Ray should be allowed back and at what internal punishment if any should be meted out.

I also read somewhere that Golden still talks to Ray Ray daily. At this point who really knows the truth.

 

[SouthpawCane]

I think you are missing the point. He didnt get kicked off the team because he violated NCAA rules, he was kicked off for violating team rules. Two completely different things.

You guys keep harping it was team rules but that's complete BS. Golden said it was administrative and it wasn't his decision. We all know why Ray Ray was kicked off the team. Because the NCAA has an ongoing investigation and anything that may be perceived as looking bad even though it may not be will be held against them by the draconian NCAA dictators. Wouldn't want the public which has become nothing more than mob rule crying afoul even though it isn't.

Say again:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/23/2907484/ray-ray-armstrongs-dad-calls-dismissal.html

The father of former University of Miami safety Ray-Ray Armstrong said even though his son initially lied to UM administrators, the school’s decision to throw him off the team is “unfair to extreme measures.”

In a phone interview late Saturday night, Albert Armstrong revealed the incident that led to UM dismissing his son from the team on Wednesday.

He said that Ray-Ray’s girlfriend, whom he declined to identify by name, owns a public relations firm that reportedly works with professional athletes.

He said his son’s girlfriend was staying at the Loews Hotel on Miami Beach during Memorial Day weekend, and while visiting her there, Ray-Ray took pictures of the hotel room and disseminated them via Instagram.

UM became aware of it and confronted Armstrong, who initially told the school he wasn’t there with the woman, his father said.

He said his son initially lied because “he felt pressured to be untruthful” and did not want to be suspended again after being suspended twice last year — one a four-game suspension for accepting impermissible benefits from Nevin Shapiro, and the other a one-game suspension for dining at Prime 112 with that same girlfriend, and then tweeting about it.

“She owns a P.R. firm, which is not illegal,” Albert Armstrong said.

“There’s no proof that she is affiliated with any agent. She is not.”

Albert Armstrong said Ray-Ray “told them the truth eventually” about the Loews Hotel incident, “but it was a day late and a dollar short.”

Still, Albert Armstrong said it did not warrant a dismissal from the team.

He said the decision was UM’s, not the NCAA’s, and that his son was “shocked.”

Though the NCAA cleared him for the Prime 112 incident, Albert Armstrong said he did not know if the NCAA would suspend Armstrong for one or multiple games for the Loews incident.

“If it wasn’t for the NCAA being involved with UM [in] the past year, we wouldn’t be talking about Ray-Ray being dismissed,” he said.

“They need a sacrificial lamb to show, ‘We’re putting our foot down.’”

Asked why his son publicized the Loews pictures via Instagram, Armstrong said, “He’s involved with 2012 social media. That’s what kids do.”

Armstrong said that Ray-Ray has been approached by 20 schools and will definitely play college football this fall.

UM declined to comment.

"What is known: This was a University decision, likely in tandem with the NCAA, not a football team suspension for a violation of team rules. The University is not releasing any details, but CaneSport has been told that everything that has been speculated about reasons for him potentially getting in trouble over the past two weeks was inaccurate."- Rivals

"UM's only comment on the matter is a release that reads "The University of Miami has dismissed senior Ray-Ray Armstrong from the football team. Armstrong can continue to be enrolled as a scholarship student at UM to complete his degree or the University will grant him a full release should he elect to transfer to another institution.""- Rivals

"Although UM has yet to explain why Armstrong was dismissed, the school did say he can continue to be enrolled as a scholarship student to complete his degree. Should he elect to transfer to another institution, UM said it would grant him a full release."- Miami Herald

Why would they keep him around unless maybe they were going to wait and see if they couldn't pull some strings to keep without causing a rift with the NCAA? Put the ball in the NCAA's court and let them decide.

You got links I got links too...

Really, some opinionated article from CaneSport?

Let me ask you this, have you ever heard of a player being reinstated through the court system after being suspended from a team for violating team rules? Regardless if the motivation was because of an NCAA investigation, I am pretty sure Golden told all of the players to stay away from questionable behavior. Taking pictures in a hotel with some chick that got you suspended last year can easily be deemed questionable behavior. If Ray Ray doesnt like the rules, quit the team.

All this does is bring more negative press and internal strife to a team that is dealing with ongoing investigations and losing on Saturday's. I am not sure how you can be a fan of the TEAM and support what Ray Ray is trying to do.

Like I said, I was all for telling Seantrel to kick rocks and most of you had a different opinion than mine and that's a bigger distraction to the team effort than Ray Ray posting pictures of him on a date with his girlfriend which why ultimately he was kicked off the team.

Yep this site is changing. Looks like some of your opinions might be challenged a bit god forbid. Wouldn't want anybody challenging your opinions now would you?

Again, what did Ray Ray do that was so bad? Just because public perception has become mob rule doesn't mean he deserves his life altered for the worse. Ray Ray served his penalty and didn't break any real rules. He had become a leader on and off the football field by all accounts except for some of the village idiots on Canesinsight who are shellshocked by the NCAA.

 

[SouthpawCane]

This ridiculous. Does this crap happen at other schools? Kids get dismissed all the time for much less than what RR did. Dude is looking so pathetic. I was actually going to root for him to somehow make it in the league still, but probably not now.

I don't even think they would have any legal recourse even if Miami was a public institution. It's not though. Miami is a private school. They can probably dismiss you for giving Donna a nasty look if they feel like it.

The whole lawsuit is nonsense.

The Supreme Court has already ruled the NCAA doesn't have to impose due process in its proceedings. So RR's suit is based on bullshyte right off the bat.

And a NCAA school can revoke a football scholarship at any time they want. Look at the SEC, they kick players off their teams all the time just because they aren't very good players, not because they broke any school rules. And RR broke rules at the very least by initially lying to UM.

This Orlando law firm fully realizes this is a dog of a lawsuit. RR's father is just wasting his money and further deteroriating his son's reputation by pursuing this action.

And how do you know Golden wants Ray Ray off the team and this wasn't just an attempt to put the ball in the NCAA's court so they ok him to play? Some of you black and whites are missing the gray area in all of this.

 

[Canesfan1899]

I'm considering filing an injunction with the NCAA to give me the last 9 years back and also to give permanent show causes to the majority of the coaching staffs during this tenure.

I will settle for free lifetime golden hurricane status.

Can we start a class-action law suit.

 

[SouthpawCane]

I'm considering filing an injunction with the NCAA to give me the last 9 years back and also to give permanent show causes to the majority of the coaching staffs during this tenure.

I will settle for free lifetime golden hurricane status.

Can we start a class-action law suit.

I don't think its smart for anyone to be posting jokes like this about the NCAA on a message board. The NCAA might want to hit the program even harder to change the culture. Shhhh! The NCAA is watching. You may not be violating a rule but lord knows we can't have another investigation at this time.

 

[BWCD]

If the judge rules in favor of Ray Ray, then Golden had better make him pay for disgracing the team first, and had better make him earn a spot back on this team. Once that's done--let him play, put all the past stuff behind, and hope he can help us win a few more games this year.

If the judge rules against Ray Ray--I'll be okay with letting Rodgers and Highsmith either share the role, or those two compete and one of them win it outright. Both have had pretty good reviews thus far in camp, and Bush/Jenkins are youngbloods ready to take their opportunity and run if given the chance...so I'm not super-worried about this.

One thing about it--regardless of how it shakes out, I don't think Golden will let it become a cluster-fvck either way. I really think from what I've read/watched in these first few practices, that Golden has control of this team right now (Seantrel's absence included), and he's not about to let something like Ray Ray get in his way.

 

[Mangum]

I don't know if anyone posted this. Its from another site..


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It was a couple facebook conversations (2 of which were my friends from band) and a tweet which he was apparently forced to delete. One of the band girls reported it to compliance about their conversation.

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Originally posted by gferman:

Yes, ANtwan definitely gets credit for being first on this one, though he was not suspended at that time and this was not a football decision.



Spoke, if you know details of a Facebook post and are sure you are right, what did he post that could have resulted in this.

Nobody has seen any of these rumored posts and right now thats all it is is rumors.

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He offered to fly the girl from her hometown to Miami so he could "holler at her". He told her he could do so because he had agents. And since said band member knows people in UCompliance, she felt obligated to report it. For example...

• yo i love ur smile
• lol thank you
• i dont want to get u introubl can we hang as friends
• lol i would say yes if i was in miami!
• u graduated?
• u gone
• <her hometown I edited out to protect her> -scopezum
• lo
• yup!
• **** ill come out or pay for ur plane ticket ma
• why? you don't even know me lol
• why does it go to that, i wanna get to know smh
  
• as friends
• you can get to know me as a friend of course
• i wouldn't be able to come down to miami though, I wouldn't be able ot get time off from my job lol
• 6:50pm
• **** i got so much money from agents and **** ill comeout there get a hotel and lemme treat u like a princess
• as a friend

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[TheU1991]

yeah it was posted in the WEZ... i don't buy it but who knows if it's true or not