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JHallCanes said:
I mean, I get it. Sometimes an OC exploits a matchup and you get ****ed in that spot. But **** happens to us the whole **** game. That's not chess, thats....well I don't know what the **** its called.

Cornelius had some plays for us this year but that kid is a depth chart kid and special teamed. He has no business out there let alone matched up against the biggest freak on the field.
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The breaking point for me was when they had Shayon Green out in space covering WRs by design multiple times.

I mean.....c'mon.
 
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nystateofmind said:
RiDLer80 said:
But back to the OP, I'm confident in Williams to run the offense next year and if Olsen beats him out then I'd be confident with that choice too. Williams seems to have a nice control of the offense from what I've seen this season.

Defense...Teddy B is gonna get all up in our *** if we stay in base D on 1st and 2nd down.
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Williams will have a real nice season next year. Sandland is gonna breakout.
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Got a good feeling about Sandland and Kamalu next year. Sometimes JUCOs just take some adjustment but both flashed a little bit and both have some weapons. I like their futures here.
 
It maddens me that Golden has such a great eye for underrated talent (Kamlau, EJ, etc.) but he has no idea how to use most of them properly.
 
nystateofmind said:
RiDLer80 said:
But back to the OP, I'm confident in Williams to run the offense next year and if Olsen beats him out then I'd be confident with that choice too. Williams seems to have a nice control of the offense from what I've seen this season.

Defense...Teddy B is gonna get all up in our *** if we stay in base D on 1st and 2nd down.
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Williams will have a real nice season next year. Sandland is gonna breakout.
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Exactly. Sandland will go from a ghost to 40 catches next year. Very excited about what Williams will bring. He's gonna set that back foot and get rid of it. He'll be dealing, and guys will be doing a lot of catch and run.
 
The Franchise said:
nystateofmind said:
RiDLer80 said:
But back to the OP, I'm confident in Williams to run the offense next year and if Olsen beats him out then I'd be confident with that choice too. Williams seems to have a nice control of the offense from what I've seen this season.

Defense...Teddy B is gonna get all up in our *** if we stay in base D on 1st and 2nd down.
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Williams will have a real nice season next year. Sandland is gonna breakout.
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Exactly. Sandland will go from a ghost to 40 catches next year. Very excited about what Williams will bring. He's gonna set that back foot and get rid of it. He'll be dealing, and guys will be doing a lot of catch and run.
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Look for Rashawn Scott to have a big bounce back year too. He and Williams have a nice connection.
 
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I know it was just one throw but that deep ball Williams dropped on a dime, was it to Hurns?, changed quite a bit about my thoughts on next year. Too many practice reports for me to take anything seriously. That was an elite throw for a kid with questionable arm strength, and a "distributor" of the ball can have a **** of a lot of success here with these weapons.
 
we won't see balls flying 40 or 50+ yards no more.

but that's okay, because our YAC will go up as well as the completion percentage.
 
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Two things. Just clarify, Cornelius was not in a one in one matchup, it was a "windows" zone. He was covering - to him - te right hash and sideline, coley was lined up to the left. He took off in the snap and did and out. Since it was Cornelius' zone, he had to "cover" or check to that WR that happen to be coley in that play. Got there way late. Just wanted to clarify.

Also, forgot to mention and it has been written in this thread, sandland is catching everything and yes seems to catch Williams real well. Def gonna go - as stated - from "ghost" to a ton of catches. Haven't seen anyone stay with him yet - even at some practices this past season.
 
I can't be the only one that would love to see our O go 100% against our D.

It would be absolutely brutal.
 
immars said:
Two things. Just clarify, Cornelius was not in a one in one matchup, it was a "windows" zone. He was covering - to him - te right hash and sideline, coley was lined up to the left. He took off in the snap and did and out. Since it was Cornelius' zone, he had to "cover" or check to that WR that happen to be coley in that play. Got there way late. Just wanted to clarify.

Also, forgot to mention and it has been written in this thread, sandland is catching everything and yes seems to catch Williams real well. Def gonna go - as stated - from "ghost" to a ton of catches. Haven't seen anyone stay with him yet - even at some practices this past season.
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I assumed that's what your were referring. Heaven forbid our defense call for our LB's to cover pass catchers in zone coverage. (not a slam on you, just some of the people responding).

Look the defense has plenty of problems and there are valid criticisms all around (scheme, coaching) but some of these arguments are ******* ridiculous.

Thanks for the recap.
 
JHallCanes said:
I know it was just one throw but that deep ball Williams dropped on a dime, was it to Hurns?, changed quite a bit about my thoughts on next year. Too many practice reports for me to take anything seriously. That was an elite throw for a kid with questionable arm strength, and a "distributor" of the ball can have a **** of a lot of success here with these weapons.
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Agree completely. I think the throw was to waters.
 
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I was there too. Most frustrating thing for me was that McCord does not participate in the pass rush drills with the d-line. His skill set is getting to the quarterback and yet we have him practicing coverage with linebackers.
 
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CaneBucsFan said:
I was there too. Most frustrating thing for me was that McCord does not participate in the pass rush drills with the d-line. His skill set is getting to the quarterback and yet we have him practicing coverage with linebackers.
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That actually makes a lot of sense, its his biggest weakness. Right now if Mccord on the field, due to his limited skills, means he's blitzing. The QB knows this, the OC knows this, and the OL knows this. That makes him only really useful on obvious passing downs. There's no mystery to what he will be doing. If however he develops pass coverage capabilities he starts ******* with all those guys. Will he blitz or drop back? The QB is unsure and that hesitation is the difference between a busted play or a completion. Also it opens the opportunity that they adjust the OL to pick a Mccord blitz, but instead the rush comes from the other side destroying the QB. Its super useful.
 
cane305 said:
we won't see balls flying 40 or 50+ yards no more.

but that's okay, because our YAC will go up as well as the completion percentage.
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[video=youtube_share;fETtVD2ue1w]http://youtu.be/fETtVD2ue1w[/video]

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Ball goes about 52 yards in the air.
 
nystateofmind said:
JHallCanes said:
I mean, I get it. Sometimes an OC exploits a matchup and you get ****ed in that spot. But **** happens to us the whole **** game. That's not chess, thats....well I don't know what the **** its called.

Cornelius had some plays for us this year but that kid is a depth chart kid and special teamed. He has no business out there let alone matched up against the biggest freak on the field.
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The breaking point for me was when they had Shayon Green out in space covering WRs by design multiple times.

I mean.....c'mon.
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It's obviously the players then. I mean c'mon. All we gotta do is recruit defensive ends that can cover in space and we'll be fine.
 
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