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Would Poles want to give the keys to a guy who doesn't have a QB/passing pedigree? Yes, Campbell was former OC at Toledo, but he didn't work with QBs.
 
ZeroBeachCane3 said:
Soooooo Rocco….i got a preposition for you

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Tony4Canes said:
Guess taking advantage of Pavia ruling
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Again, Pavia's situation involved JuCos and NIL.

CJ Ogbonna played at SOUTHEAST MISSOURI STATE (which is NOT a JuCo) and Buffalo (also NOT a JuCo).

He played in FOUR seasons.

In his lightest year (2022), he played in FIVE games. Thus the question about needing a waiver like McCord does.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Again, Pavia's situation involved JuCos and NIL.

CJ Ogbonna played at SOUTHEAST MISSOURI STATE (which is NOT a JuCo) and Buffalo (also NOT a JuCo).

He played in FOUR seasons.

In his lightest year (2022), he played in FIVE games. Thus the question about needing a waiver like McCord does.
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You need to stick to law sometimes


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Tony4Canes said:
Not sure but Pavia just played his 5th season over all and won another year
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Pavia played 2 seasons at NMSU and 1 at Vandy and 2 at JUCO. I'm not certain how the math worked - whether the NCAA gave him credit for the COVID year in '20 or counted 1 of his JUCO years as a redshirt year - that said he was a senior this year. Either way, he only played 3 seasons at the NCAA level, and his argument to the judge who issued the temporary injuction was that JUCO years shouldn't count against a player's NCAA eligibility clock. So, he is now eligible for this coming season, and conceviably could be eligible the following year if the NCAA makes the 5-year no redshirt rule change:

U.S. District Judge William L. Campbell issued the injunction following a hearing earlier in December during which Pavia's attorneys — led by Ryan Downton of The Texas Trial Group — argued his case. Campbell asked the NCAA's attorneys to provide additional information regarding whether the governing body is considering giving all players a fifth year of eligibility before the end of the 2024-25 school year; if so, the trial might not have been necessary to see through. Once Campbell received that information, he said, a decision would come down. (link)​
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Ogbonna spent 1 year at JUCO, 2 at FCS SE Mizzou St & 2 at FBS Buffalo, playing in >4 games each year. The JUCO ruling doesn't help him since he didn't qualify for a redshirt in any of his four years at an NCAA school. He'd be eligible if the NCAA changed to the 5-year no redshirt rule, and applied it to everyone who was in college for the 24-25 year.

I think McCord is going to get his waiver on appeal, and the NCAA will apply the new 5-year eligibility clock to everyone who was in school this year. Ogbonna would definitely have 1 more year then, and so would QBs who can actually throw like Seth Henigan.
 
flips said:
Pavia played 2 seasons at NMSU and 1 at Vandy and 2 at JUCO. I'm not certain how the math worked - whether the NCAA gave him credit for the COVID year in '20 or counted 1 of his JUCO years as a redshirt year - that said he was a senior this year. Either way, he only played 3 seasons at the NCAA level, and his argument to the judge who issued the temporary injuction was that JUCO years shouldn't count against a player's NCAA eligibility clock. So, he is now eligible for this coming season, and conceviably could be eligible the following year if the NCAA makes the 5-year no redshirt rule change:

U.S. District Judge William L. Campbell issued the injunction following a hearing earlier in December during which Pavia's attorneys — led by Ryan Downton of The Texas Trial Group — argued his case. Campbell asked the NCAA's attorneys to provide additional information regarding whether the governing body is considering giving all players a fifth year of eligibility before the end of the 2024-25 school year; if so, the trial might not have been necessary to see through. Once Campbell received that information, he said, a decision would come down. (link)​
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Ogbonna spent 1 year at JUCO, 2 at FCS SE Mizzou St & 2 at FBS Buffalo, playing in >4 games each year. The JUCO ruling doesn't help him since he didn't qualify for a redshirt in any of his four years at an NCAA school. He'd be eligible if the NCAA changed to the 5-year no redshirt rule, and applied it to everyone who was in college for the 24-25 year.

I think McCord is going to get his waiver on appeal, and the NCAA will apply the new 5-year eligibility clock to everyone who was in school this year. Ogbonna would definitely have 1 more year then, and so would QBs who can actually throw like Seth Henigan.
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Not sure where you saw he was JUCO one season but he started Fall 2019. Doesn’t look like he played that year.


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Tony4Canes said:
You need to stick to law sometimes


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You need to stick to Google sometimes.

He has played FOUR seasons at NCAA Division I 4-year schools, two at SEMO (Southeast Missouri State, NOT a JuCo) and two years at Buffalo (NOT a JuCo).

McCord situation, in that he played in FIVE games in 2022.



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Tony4Canes said:
Still was at JUCO for two seasons

Read somewhere he compared JUCO to Prep Schools since they play each other and Prep Schools do not start the eligibility clock
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I love ya, man.

But right now, I am DUMBFOUNDED at what you are trying to say.

The Pavia situation is as follows. Based on a theory of the case that says "JuCo years shouldn't count against the 5-years-to-play-4 rationale, because it causes him to miss out on NIL opportunities", Pavia is eligible to play ANOTHER year. He only has THREE years at the 4-year collegiate Division I level.

That is DIFFERENT from the theory of the case for McCord and Ogbonna. Both of these guys have played FOUR YEARS at a 4-year Division I school. Their agument (or at least the argument for McCord) is that ONE of those years involved "only 5 games", and so he is trying to make the Taulia Tagovailaoa argument from last year WHICH FAILED. Like McCord, Ogbonna played one season that involved "only 5 games".

As such, Ogbonna would need the same waiver that McCord is gunning for (on appeal, since he has already been denied once).

Understand?
 
TheOriginalCane said:
You need to stick to Google sometimes.

He has played FOUR seasons at NCAA Division I 4-year schools, two at SEMO (Southeast Missouri State, NOT a JuCo) and two years at Buffalo (NOT a JuCo).

McCord situation, in that he played in FIVE games in 2022.



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He went to JUCO so he like several others are using that for their extra season

Like Tru Edwards using JUCO for another season

My only confusion is the ruling applies to class of 2019 guys like these two
 
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