QBS in the Portal as of 11/28

[Calinative]

cal was going after brown - clearly he won't go there now after them pulling that Oregon qb

not sure why we wouldn't at least call him - unless again something big is lurking

One program is gaining steam for Ohio State football transfer QB Devin Brown

The Ohio State Buckeyes have numerous talented quarterbacks on their current roster. While they did have an early-season quarterback battle, it always seemed like Will Howard was the answer. What is up next for the program? That's a good question, and the path seem

buckeyeswire.usatoday.com

Why go for him? 3 yrs in college with no experience. I guess as a "just in case" add like Poff was, maybe. But even then why not get someone who has played a bit...

 

[Alex Del Piero]

Why go for him? 3 yrs in college with no experience. I guess as a "just in case" add like Poff was, maybe. But even then why not get someone who has played a bit...

Because the good ones are gone.

 

[Calinative]

Idk to me it seems like Beck is probably the best we could "hope" for at this point. Hopefullly dude has some *** NFL grades which I suspect he does after this season. But he's got talent. I'd just hope he doesn't cost hella money. If we got him for $2.5M, it'd be good. Would have still prefered Mendoza for cheaper, but getting Beck would be a pretty good end result all things considered lol.

 

[rascon]

I agree with what you’re saying for the most part. However, like you said at the beginning of your response the **** doesn’t look too **** good right now. The portal window is still open, but most of the legit options have either already committed or the window for their particular school has expired. Mario’s arrogance ****ed us with the Mateer all in. I’m sure he felt it was another Ward situation. Obviously it wasn’t and there were other options they didn’t pursue.

Jackson Arnold should have Plan A
Mendoza Plan B

End of story. I think we could have easily got either of those two.

I’d think we could have got both Jackson Arnold and Singleton for what we were willing to offer Mateer.

Even if we somehow get Beck, I hope Mario and the new guy put together a comprehensive evalutation/offer plan so we don’t have this situation happen ever again. Especially now that we see Nickel and the 26 recruit at the end of the tunnel.

 

[407cane]

Idk to me it seems like Beck is probably the best we could "hope" for at this point. Hopefullly dude has some *** NFL grades which I suspect he does after this season. But he's got talent. I'd just hope he doesn't cost hella money. If we got him for $2.5M, it'd be good. Would have still prefered Mendoza for cheaper, but getting Beck would be a pretty good end result all things considered lol.

what does it matter if it's more expensive or cheaper?

neither way does it limit us in getting additional people, I dont think we're the market for a budget qb to save money

 

[JayCane20]

I know hope is involved here on my end no doubt, but I'm truly optimistic on Nickel. Really think he has what it takes to be very good on college level. Coleman needs to grow a lot more so not as bullish with him but I think after a RS he can be a legit 2 year starter here.

Nickel is gonna be good. But what are the records of teams that have started a true freshman in the P4 or P5 in the past?

Have any won 10+ games excluding the generational talents like Trevor Lawrence?

 

[Big O Cane]

Because the good ones are gone.

Who were the good ones?

 

[Damiencane86]

Nickel is gonna be good. But what are the records of teams that have started a true freshman in the P4 or P5 in the past?

Have any won 10+ games excluding the generational talents like Trevor Lawrence?

A lot of people like to comp Nickel to Sam Howell which is pretty fair. And I just checked, his freshman year at UNC they went 7-6, but he threw for over 3k yards and 30 TD's. Those stats I doubt Luke could replicate but 7-9 wins isn't out of the question if OL & running game support him and defense isn't a total abomination.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

I'm completely ok with Beck. Those of you preemptively b1tching about his possible additions are outside your **** minds, relatively speaking.

I just need to know it's a done deal...cause the alternative is basically a full CFB season thrown into the toilet.

 

[Reyrey]

A lot of people like to comp Nickel to Sam Howell which is pretty fair. And I just checked, his freshman year at UNC they went 7-6, but he threw for over 3k yards and 30 TD's. Those stats I doubt Luke could replicate but 7-9 wins isn't out of the question if OL & running game support him and defense isn't a total abomination.

He would be walking into a much better situation than Howell too. Fix the defense and throw as much talent at that side of the ball as you can. Rely on the oline and run game.

 

[rascon]

Nickel is gonna be good. But what are the records of teams that have started a true freshman in the P4 or P5 in the past?

Have any won 10+ games excluding the generational talents like Trevor Lawrence?

What about Jake Fromm?

 

[TwentySix]

Nickel is gonna be good. But what are the records of teams that have started a true freshman in the P4 or P5 in the past?

Have any won 10+ games excluding the generational talents like Trevor Lawrence?

I’m sure that list is extremely short if not blank. But to be fair, how many good teams with ten win potential are starting true freshmen that aren’t generational? Some of the Saban Bama teams undoubtedly could’ve trotted out a true freshman mediocre QB and rode the defense to 10 wins.

 

[Thoughtsoncanes]

Is there any information other than Mateer about quarterbacks we have even contacted? Has anyone officially stated we have even had discussion with Beck?

 

[flips]

What about Jake Fromm?

They went 13-2. He had Chubb/Michel/Swift as RBs though.

 

[407cane]

Who were the good ones?

well "good" is a relative term with what's been available

it's not anywhere near last year's class - even believe mateer is relatively overrated playing a g5 schedule (cam played in true pac 12) and he was by far the best option this year

according to 247 rankings of QBs (take that with a grain of salt), here are the QBs still available

Matt Sluka (#16 qb)
Mark Gronowski (#27)
Devin Brown (#31)
Israel Carter #42
Aidan Glober #43
Tyler van dyke #45 -definitely SMU it seems
kai horton #54
Alex orji #55 -- I mean after him, what's the point of even going down the list

for reference

mendoza is #3
air noland #11
Thomas castellanos #20



so yeah, all the relatively "good" ones are gone and we're cooked unless someone enters soon or in the spring

 

[407cane]

Is there any information other than Mateer about quarterbacks we have even contacted? Has anyone officially stated we have even had discussion with Beck?

nothing legit connecting us to beck at all

only other qb that we have been linked to at all (and it came from USC beat writers) was Maiava

 

[252cane]

A lot of people like to comp Nickel to Sam Howell which is pretty fair. And I just checked, his freshman year at UNC they went 7-6, but he threw for over 3k yards and 30 TD's. Those stats I doubt Luke could replicate but 7-9 wins isn't out of the question if OL & running game support him and defense isn't a total abomination.

Dude threw almost 40tds it was high 30s. The thing is unc was bad. They won like 2 games the year before that. So 7 was great for them

 

[RozayCane]

Nickel is gonna be good. But what are the records of teams that have started a true freshman in the P4 or P5 in the past?

Have any won 10+ games excluding the generational talents like Trevor Lawrence?

I asked ChatGPT over the last 15 years

True Freshmen Who Achieved at Least 10 Wins:


1. Trevor Lawrence (Clemson, 2018)


• True Freshman: Yes.


• Led Clemson to a 15-0 record and a National Championship. Took over as the starter early in the season.


2. Jalen Hurts (Alabama, 2016)


• True Freshman: Yes.


• Led Alabama to a 14-1 record and a national title game appearance.


3. Bo Nix (Auburn, 2019)


• True Freshman: Yes.


• Led Auburn to a 9-4 record, falling short of 10 wins but notable for his performan

 

[Calinative]

Nickel is gonna be good. But what are the records of teams that have started a true freshman in the P4 or P5 in the past?

Have any won 10+ games excluding the generational talents like Trevor Lawrence?

What were those teams records the following year(s) is possibly more important.... If starting Nickel and him taking some expected lumps early led to us being in a great position in 2026, It could be a good tradeoff. I generally think Freshman who play and become "the dude" usually end up improving over time including in the win column. Guess it'd depend how much you think Nickel is a 3 year starter type and how good/bad he'd be as a true frosh.

If say we had a solid offensive season with Nickel as a Frosh and had a good defensive performance, but it made you feel great heading into next year, would that be good? To me the biggest negative with that is honestly I don't expect Dawson to return next season. To me hes going to move on to some HC opportunity. So it may feel like we're building just to start over and hope Mario picks OC correctly again. And you'd have the risk of Nickel following Dawson too...

Some I can think of: Jake Fromm, JT Barrett, Hurts I believe started as a Frosh, Maybe Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford? Pryor at ohio St? Kellen Moore, Jameis, Manziel were all RS FR so a bit different... So yeah not a great track record in the W/L column during most true freshman seasons. But I'm also not sure that's entirely the QBs fault. A lot of the times it is lower quality programs that were starting true freshman so the W/L record wasn't good BUT the qb had a successful season for the most part. Pre-NIL the top W/L programs generally had guys developing they could turn to and would only go frosh if it was like star talent.... Thats less and less the case in CFB today.

 

[Gables Canes]