POLL: What is your stance on Al Golden?

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

Al Golden learned from Paterno and Groh. Jimbo Fisher learned from Nick Saban.
Lesson: Find a coach with relevant learnings.

I'd actually be thrilled if Golden learned something from Paterno. I never saw a Joe Paterno coached team get its *** pushed in in a bowl game or consistently give up 500+ yards on defense.

 

[supacane]

Al Golden learned from Paterno and Groh. Jimbo Fisher learned from Nick Saban.
Lesson: Find a coach with relevant learnings.

I'd actually be thrilled if Golden learned something from Paterno. I never saw a Joe Paterno coached team get its *** pushed in in a bowl game or consistently give up 500+ yards on defense.

Sandusky pushed lots of asses in, in bowl games bro lol

 

[CaneAlmighty]

He took a UVA defense that was ranked 100+ and got them top 20 in 4 years.
Took winless Temple teams and got them to 9 wins in 4 years.
Took a Miami program that averaged 7 wins the last 5 years to 9 wins his 3rd year.

He also took a 22nd ranked UM total defense and put it in the hundreds.

He took a miami team that averaged 7 wins the previous 5 seasons and averaged 7 wins for 3 seasons

Actually he's averaged 7.33 wins and thats with bowl bans in 2 of his 3 years.
And since the basis for comparison is a 5 year average you may want to wait 2 more years for the measure to be comparable.

Or you could go w Randy's first 3 seasons? Oh yeah, averaged. 7, won 9 his third year.
Please point me to evidence that 3 more post season games would have lead to a better record for Gorlden. Are you basing it off his performance in other bowl games at the U?

You could but 3 years is not a big enough sample size to truly measure a coach statistically.
Coker was the greatest first 3 year HC in history of CFB.
Shannon's 1st 3 years as a HC were better than Saban 1st 3 at Mich State.
So 5 years is a good enough sample size.

Now you can choose to not use stats and go by your football acumen and say Golden will fail regardless and that's fine. You'll just have to wait to see if you're right..

 

[poncho0091]

He also took a 22nd ranked UM total defense and put it in the hundreds.

He took a miami team that averaged 7 wins the previous 5 seasons and averaged 7 wins for 3 seasons

Actually he's averaged 7.33 wins and thats with bowl bans in 2 of his 3 years.
And since the basis for comparison is a 5 year average you may want to wait 2 more years for the measure to be comparable.

Or you could go w Randy's first 3 seasons? Oh yeah, averaged. 7, won 9 his third year.
Please point me to evidence that 3 more post season games would have lead to a better record for Gorlden. Are you basing it off his performance in other bowl games at the U?

What does Randy have to do with this?

How about the fact that you averaged our win total which was mostly Randy's tenure here.

 

[LEmeyers]

The w/l totals maybe close but Shannon actually had the more impressive victories of the two. I don't see how someone can be pro golden and anti Shannon when looking at results.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

The w/l totals maybe close but Shannon actually had the more impressive victories of the two. I don't see how someone can be pro golden and anti Shannon when looking at results.

who's anti-shannon?

 

[theibisrules]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[LEmeyers]

He also took a 22nd ranked UM total defense and put it in the hundreds.

He took a miami team that averaged 7 wins the previous 5 seasons and averaged 7 wins for 3 seasons

Actually he's averaged 7.33 wins and thats with bowl bans in 2 of his 3 years.
And since the basis for comparison is a 5 year average you may want to wait 2 more years for the measure to be comparable.

Or you could go w Randy's first 3 seasons? Oh yeah, averaged. 7, won 9 his third year.
Please point me to evidence that 3 more post season games would have lead to a better record for Gorlden. Are you basing it off his performance in other bowl games at the U?

You could but 3 years is not a big enough sample size to truly measure a coach statistically.
Coker was the greatest first 3 year HC in history of CFB.
Shannon's 1st 3 years as a HC were better than Saban 1st 3 at Mich State.
So 5 years is a good enough sample size.

Now you can choose to not use stats and go by your football acumen and say Golden will fail regardless and that's fine. You'll just have to wait to see if you're right..

3 years is plenty of time to identify a coaches ability one way or another. In 3 years Golden hasn't done anything. Even in rebuilding a coach will flash ability. Again, golden hasn't flashed a dam thing. In fact, he's proven he doesn't belong here.

 

[TrueCane100]

the last post

 

[Stingarov]

Al has a track record of success turning around bad programs.
Dude has cajones to go to Temple when he could have safely waited out a better gig like Shannon did here and all he did was turn them in to a bowl team in 4 years.
Now he's successfively dealt with another coaching sh!it storm by guiding the program for 3 years while dealing with the pending NCAA sanctions guiding the team to consecutive winning seasons all the while doing it with a ****ty as roster that he inherited.

All in on Al.

I'm sorry, but you said Al has a track record of turning around bad PROGRAMS. As in plural.

Please take the time for the rest of us to provide us with a list.

And while you're working over that long list, how many games has he beaten with winning records?

He took a UVA defense that was ranked 100+ and got them top 20 in 4 years.
Took winless Temple teams and got them to 9 wins in 4 years.
Took a Miami program that averaged 7 wins the last 5 years to 9 wins his 3rd year.

He also took a 22nd ranked UM total defense and put it in the hundreds.

He took a miami team that averaged 7 wins the previous 5 seasons and averaged 7 wins for 3 seasons

Lulz. About sums it up.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

I'm sorry, but you said Al has a track record of turning around bad PROGRAMS. As in plural.

Please take the time for the rest of us to provide us with a list.

And while you're working over that long list, how many games has he beaten with winning records?

He took a UVA defense that was ranked 100+ and got them top 20 in 4 years.
Took winless Temple teams and got them to 9 wins in 4 years.
Took a Miami program that averaged 7 wins the last 5 years to 9 wins his 3rd year.

He also took a 22nd ranked UM total defense and put it in the hundreds.

He took a miami team that averaged 7 wins the previous 5 seasons and averaged 7 wins for 3 seasons

Lulz. About sums it up.

Yup.

And it should be stated...homeboy is 1-11 in the 12 games we've played against teams with a pulse (finished with more than 7 wins).

So that horrible schedule we played last year is actually making the fat boy look a little better than he's actually produced.

 

[DJWilliams55]

Have faith, but not complete faith.

I expect 8-4 this year, considering we have a noodle arm at QB and schedule is tougher.

 

[Bigtip]

Have faith, but not complete faith.

I expect 8-4 this year, considering we have a noodle arm at QB and schedule is tougher.

that is probably worst case scenario since F.A.G. probably keeps his job and we are stuck in a cycle of mediocrity

 

[TrueCane100]

Fat boy.... *** ..... This cant be life :foodnd:

Please never post again

 

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

Will be interesting to see the poll numbers after this coming season. We're gonna need another one of these polls when the season is done. Wouldn't be surprised to see most going for option 4 or Option 1 depending on how the season goes (my guess is option 4).

The UL game will be very telling.

Don't worry, the way things have been going lately, this poll will probably be up after every quarter next season. Can't wait!

 

[RiDLer80]

Has Golden ever won a game he shouldn't have won?

I mean, the man is 1-22 versus teams with 8+ wins. His best win to date is a Florida team that finished with 8 losses and an embarrassing loss to Georgia Southern.

Also the man has an average total defense ranking of 67 in his time as DC and HC with only two defenses that were top 30.

 

[nystateofmind]

Has Golden ever won a game he shouldn't have won?

I mean, the man is 1-22 versus teams with 8+ wins.

That is disgraceful.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Has Golden ever won a game he shouldn't have won?

I mean, the man is 1-22 versus teams with 8+ wins. His best win to date is a Florida team that finished with 8 losses and an embarrassing loss to Georgia Southern.

Also the man has an average total defense ranking of 67 in his time as DC and HC with only two defenses that were top 30.

Ohio State....wait.

 

[RiDLer80]

I'm just gonna put this here.

2001 was Golden's first year as Virginia DC.

2005 was Golden's last year at Virginia as DC and of course 2006 was his first year at Temple.

The last data point is the average ranking for his defenses as DC & HC through the years.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

A few good defenses mixed in a sea of average to bad defenses. And this guy is supposedly a "defensive coach"