POLL: What is your stance on Al Golden?

[Miami82]

 

[Pingozzi]

We are lucky to have Golden. If we are patient he will lead us back to prominence. Remember when he became our coach Onion had left the program in shambles and shortly thereafter the NCAA thing started. We are a much better program than when he came in.

 

[xbobdog]

I would love for someone to explain to me how it is logical to support someone just because of the position they hold. I suppose you would support your abusive family member, because, you know, for better or for worse, they are your family. Or I suppose that you support a president/politicians you don't agree with simply because, for better or for worse, they are our representatives.

These are obviously very different from supporting the coach of a football team. It is more about weather you chose to be optimistic or pessimistic.

 

[cane since birth]

We are lucky to have Golden. If we are patient he will lead us back to prominence. Remember when he became our coach Onion had left the program in shambles and shortly thereafter the NCAA thing started. We are a much better program than when he came in.

this is something everyone was saying earlier this year, man how things have changed

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

We are lucky to have Golden. If we are patient he will lead us back to prominence. Remember when he became our coach Onion had left the program in shambles and shortly thereafter the NCAA thing started. We are a much better program than when he came in.

Remember when Coker left the program in shambles for Onion? Remember the "cupboard being empty" and our depth being so bad that "a punter was playing WR" ?

It never ends.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

Voted for serious doubts

The poll actually restored my faith in this board. I'd say that serious doubts or not complete faith are reasonable. Blind faith can't be supported and he's a corch seems to be a pretty early decision as well.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

I would love for someone to explain to me how it is logical to support someone just because of the position they hold. I suppose you would support your abusive family member, because, you know, for better or for worse, they are your family. Or I suppose that you support a president/politicians you don't agree with simply because, for better or for worse, they are our representatives.

These are obviously very different from supporting the coach of a football team. It is more about weather you chose to be optimistic or pessimistic.

You can choose to be optimistic or pessimistic in both of my examples, too. Try a different distinction.

 

[Miami82]

I still 100% think he's the guy who will lead us to the promise land 23 9.79%

I'd wager these same porsters voted for obama the 2nd time...

 

[xbobdog]

I would love for someone to explain to me how it is logical to support someone just because of the position they hold. I suppose you would support your abusive family member, because, you know, for better or for worse, they are your family. Or I suppose that you support a president/politicians you don't agree with simply because, for better or for worse, they are our representatives.

These are obviously very different from supporting the coach of a football team. It is more about weather you chose to be optimistic or pessimistic.

You can choose to be optimistic or pessimistic in both of my examples, too. Try a different distinction.

Im not sure what you are getting at. But in your examples, blind faith can be dangerous or irresponsible. We are talking about being fans of a football team. The only thing at risk is a TV remote, bragging rights or how much fun you have on a particular night.

I look at it as Golden is the coach of the team next year. I support the team. I support Golden. I prefer to emphasize the positive. We won 9 games last year, the best we have done in years. We can win 10 next year. We can win the Coastal. This is optimistic.

In your view we won 9 games this year only because it was an easy schedule. Our defense sucks and won't get better. We can't win the Coastal. This is pessimistic.

I choose the optimistic view because it is less miserable. I have no problem with being critical. But at some point critical becomes miserable.

 

[TpaBayFlyFisher]

I think that the staff can recruit, but I do not know if they can develope and X/O

 

[Miami82]

I would love for someone to explain to me how it is logical to support someone just because of the position they hold. I suppose you would support your abusive family member, because, you know, for better or for worse, they are your family. Or I suppose that you support a president/politicians you don't agree with simply because, for better or for worse, they are our representatives.

These are obviously very different from supporting the coach of a football team. It is more about weather you chose to be optimistic or pessimistic.

You can choose to be optimistic or pessimistic in both of my examples, too. Try a different distinction.

Im not sure what you are getting at. But in your examples, blind faith can be dangerous or irresponsible. We are talking about being fans of a football team. The only thing at risk is a TV remote, bragging rights or how much fun you have on a particular night.

I look at it as Golden is the coach of the team next year. I support the team. I support Golden. I prefer to emphasize the positive. We won 9 games last year, the best we have done in years. We can win 10 next year. We can win the Coastal. This is optimistic.

In your view we won 9 games this year only because it was an easy schedule. Our defense sucks and won't get better. We can't win the Coastal. This is pessimistic.

I choose the optimistic view because it is less miserable. I have no problem with being critical. But at some point critical becomes miserable.

What you have is blind faith. You can't point to one game where we out schemed our opponent. That isn't pessimistic, that is just facts. Will we continue to beat the low level schools on our schedule, sure. We can pure out talent several schools on our schedule. That will never win the ACC, or give us a chance against a top 10 team.

Until Golden actually out schemes an opponent, I won't hold my breathe. 1-22 against teams with at least 8 wins says all I need to know.

 

[NVA CANE]

Will be interesting to see the poll numbers after this coming season. We're gonna need another one of these polls when the season is done. Wouldn't be surprised to see most going for option 4 or Option 1 depending on how the season goes (my guess is option 4).

The UL game will be very telling.

 

[LEmeyers]

For all intents and purposes this staff has proved to be a cruel joke. Getting out coached on numerous occasions, producing two of the worst defenses in this schools proud history.....there are no signs that point to things changing. In fact, all the signs point towards things getting worse.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

For all intents and purposes this staff has proved to be a cruel joke. Getting out coached on numerous occasions, producing two of the worst defenses in this schools proud history.....there are no signs that point to things changing. In fact, all the signs point towards things getting worse.

Looking at the objective facts and forming conclusions based on them = being pessimistic, didn't you know?

 

[LEmeyers]

I would love for someone to explain to me how it is logical to support someone just because of the position they hold. I suppose you would support your abusive family member, because, you know, for better or for worse, they are your family. Or I suppose that you support a president/politicians you don't agree with simply because, for better or for worse, they are our representatives.

These are obviously very different from supporting the coach of a football team. It is more about weather you chose to be optimistic or pessimistic.

You can choose to be optimistic or pessimistic in both of my examples, too. Try a different distinction.

Im not sure what you are getting at. But in your examples, blind faith can be dangerous or irresponsible. We are talking about being fans of a football team. The only thing at risk is a TV remote, bragging rights or how much fun you have on a particular night.

I look at it as Golden is the coach of the team next year. I support the team. I support Golden. I prefer to emphasize the positive. We won 9 games last year, the best we have done in years. We can win 10 next year. We can win the Coastal. This is optimistic.

In your view we won 9 games this year only because it was an easy schedule. Our defense sucks and won't get better. We can't win the Coastal. This is pessimistic.

I choose the optimistic view because it is less miserable. I have no problem with being critical. But at some point critical becomes miserable.

There's nothing miserable about being realistic. I'll continue to cheer for the team. I don't have any expectations from this staff as they haven't givin me any reason to think other wise. I can discuss issues involving this staff with a smile on my face. At this point, golden is more of a joke to me with some of these lame excuses he's come up with. They are disrespectful to the fans and because of it I have very little respect for him.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Had he fired Dorito I would still be 100% behind him, I'm very concerned that he's willing to go down in sinking ship just to keep his buddy employed.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

I'm somewhere between "serious doubts" and "corch". He really lost me after that bowl game performance. I would have more faith in him if he recognized the fact that he has a major problem on his hands with this defensive scheme/coordinator. As it stands I'm not very optimistic.

 

[LEmeyers]

This has probably been talked about around here but the problem with the defense is golden himself. He believes in this garbage scheme...one in which his mentor could never effectly run at this level. If he couldn't do it I have no idea why golden thinks he can. To make matters worse he's a worse coach than his mentor by a country mile.

 

[MIA42178]

I'm sorry, but you said Al has a track record of turning around bad PROGRAMS. As in plural.

Please take the time for the rest of us to provide us with a list.

And while you're working over that long list, how many games has he beaten with winning records?

He took a UVA defense that was ranked 100+ and got them top 20 in 4 years.
Took winless Temple teams and got them to 9 wins in 4 years.
Took a Miami program that averaged 7 wins the last 5 years to 9 wins his 3rd year.

He also took a 22nd ranked UM total defense and put it in the hundreds.

He took a miami team that averaged 7 wins the previous 5 seasons and averaged 7 wins for 3 seasons

Actually he's averaged 7.33 wins and thats with bowl bans in 2 of his 3 years.
And since the basis for comparison is a 5 year average you may want to wait 2 more years for the measure to be comparable.

Or you could go w Randy's first 3 seasons? Oh yeah, averaged. 7, won 9 his third year.
Please point me to evidence that 3 more post season games would have lead to a better record for Gorlden. Are you basing it off his performance in other bowl games at the U?

 

[TheEye]

Al Golden learned from Paterno and Groh. Jimbo Fisher learned from Nick Saban.
Lesson: Find a coach with relevant learnings.