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Please stop saying we have ELITE ATHLETES

Atlcane_72 said:
Said it once I’ll say it again. RB is the only elite position group on the team.

elite athletes will beat the man across from them consistently coach be **** - Garvin comes to mind. Our players just aren’t that good.

coaching wise, you have to get rid of Enos because he’s calling plays as if he has elite talent. Maybe he felt like he did have the necessary talent early on but over the course of the season, he’s still not adjusted to how bad the o line is. For that, he has to go.

Defensively, we can win with Manny calling plays but I think it’s obvious the talent has regressed under his recruiting.
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I agree with the running backs being the best position group. Cam fustrates me though. Defense is good enough to win games I’m not so mad at that side of the ball.
 
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Cane passion said:
Maybe FIU GT VT and DUKE have better athlete’s then us because I don’t see the big plays when our athletes get the ball in space. NO BODY ON OUR OFFENSE SCARES ANYONE GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL! Yes coaches should get some blame but our ALLEGED 4/5 offensive skills are ***!
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You kind sir have never played one snap of football beyond pop Warner have you. That's the only thing you can chalk ur logic up too.
 
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Question? How many deep balls were thrown yesterday to wide open receivers but Williams overthrew them by 7 yards? On one series, we had back to back easy touchdowns overthrown. Williams sucks. Our athletes at WR are frustrated because they put their best moves on and are wide open only to be overthrown or not be thrown at all. Game after game after game. If the QB can not make plays, and scoring chances are wasted because of it, then you get what we got yesterday and FIU and GaTech and Gaytor. And don't give this crap about being young. He can't make accurate throws on deep balls which would win the games for us much, less short balls thrown behind receivers which are either intercepted, or caught on the ground, or in a location where the ball can't be advanced after catch thus utilizing the athleticism of our receivers. Our QB's suck.
 
Well i have bad news for you manny diaz is not going to recruit better talent or athletes than what mark richt brought in.

Plus no evidence he can coach sooooo
 
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dsddcane said:
You kind sir have never played one snap of football beyond pop Warner have you. That's the only thing you can chalk ur logic up too.
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With all due respect I may have forgotten more football than you. Like I said YES THE COACHING CAN GET BETTER BUT THE COACHES HAVE PUT THESE PLAYERS IN EVERY SINGLE GAME THEY PLAYED IN THE KIDS GOTTA MAKE ******* PLAYS BRUH!
 
Cane passion said:
With all due respect I may have forgotten more football than you. Like I said YES THE COACHING CAN GET BETTER BUT THE COACHES HAVE PUT THESE PLAYERS IN EVERY SINGLE GAME THEY PLAYED IN THE KIDS GOTTA MAKE ******* PLAYS BRUH!
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correction the coaches have put these kids in position to win every single game played and the kids did not make plays!
 
Coach Macho said:
Why are you blaming 4/5 star Florida kids for our struggles WHEN WE'RE NOT EVEN SIGNING 4/5 STAR KIDS?

Generally we are signing the leftover kids that the big time programs didn't want.

Those "over rated" 4 and 5 star Florida kids seem to be doing just fine at Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia, Auburn, etc.
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Facts
 
dsddcane said:
Atleast one person pays attention. People dont comprehend if you're predictable in ur route tree any decent coordinator will pick up on that and any kid who stays in his film how he should will see a tendency and sit on that route. Wont even respect other possibilities... as innovative as we began camp we literally regressed with the problems of the line...
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Exactly.
 
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Enos has blamed execution all year.
I get it, but you would think that after 7 or 8 games he would switch up what has to be executed.
 
Atlcane_72 said:
Said it once I’ll say it again. RB is the only elite position group on the team.

elite athletes will beat the man across from them consistently coach be **** - Garvin comes to mind. Our players just aren’t that good.

coaching wise, you have to get rid of Enos because he’s calling plays as if he has elite talent. Maybe he felt like he did have the necessary talent early on but over the course of the season, he’s still not adjusted to how bad the o line is. For that, he has to go.

Defensively, we can win with Manny calling plays but I think it’s obvious the talent has regressed under his recruiting.
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Who in the RB room is "elite"?
 
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Cane passion said:
I have observed these coaches putting these kids in position to win every game and we can’t make the big plays case in point Florida game ( Jeff Thomas muffining the punt inside the ten) in North Carolina ( Hightower) dropping a pass to keep the drive going in the 4th to continue giving Miami possession to seal the game. Bandy getting smoked and playing mediocre the whole season ) GT game Ivey with his bull**** and our skills playing mediocre in that game. And YES THE COACHES CAN COACH BETTER BUT THE KIDS HAVE BEEN PUT IN POSITION TO WIN EVERY GAME BUT LIKE I SAID NO ONE MAKES BIG PLAYS!
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Soooooooo, if the PLAYERS are making all of these mistakes & continue to play........

......would that not be on the coaches?

If the same mistakes keep happening over and over agian, that's a coaching issue.
 
305to954 said:
you almost hit the nail on the head here..no we do have elite athletes on the roster..but we don’t have elite football players..I still don’t think our fanbase has grasped the fact that Duke isn’t the same Duke that was around in 06..they have athletes. The talent gap between where we are and the teams we are losing too across the board is not that wide. Them playing man 1 and zero coverage on the outside should tell all u need to know..FIU same thing..

depth and comp is the real problem. when is the last time someone who you didn’t expect to flash, flashed..I’m talking young guys waiting in the wings but you see them making plays on the STs unit...The stock piling of talent, depth, competition is what the top program feed off. Nobodies job is safe. That includes ST units. That’s were the culture is lacking and has been since 04..it’s not that these kid don’t want to compete, but they don’t need to compete cause that talent behind them is not there. Prime example and the most important example today on the oline..we saw firsthand today how bad the options behind 60, 51, 53, 55 are..

If there is one thing Manny did speak on which was is inherently true, it’s this fact..It’s going to take a coach and staff who understands this and attacks disease which has led to complacency. And it cant be manufactured. It has to be tangible. Like JT4 losing his return duties in place of K.J...if a kid sees a sign of adversity and decides to transfer the coach has to show him the door and keep that plan in place. I don’t know if manny is the coach to do that. but It’s gonna take a guy who’s maybe not a players coach. It’s gonna take a coach who the players have a healthy fear of.

now we can rotate staffs in and out as much as CIS. The thing that seems to be a common theme? These position coaches, OCs, DCs, aside from Dno and Jon Richt all seem to land on their feet other places..some get high level jobs right after. TB is with the panthers. Todd Hartley UGA. Larry Scott UF. Dugans FSU. Stacey searels UNC. **** the butt of all our jokes Al golden landed a NFL gig..one thing is clear, they all know football..that brings me to my conclusions: Whoever the HC is needs to bring in a staff and reevaluate how they evaluate prospects with a clear understanding that your coming to Miami to compete. not to be the savior. Not to bring Miami back. But to first and foremost Compete at a high level. That’s how sustain success. That’s how you build winning culture. Places like OSU, OU, Bama at this point their HC could step down today, another staffer can take over the reigns and 1000 percent believe that winning culture that has been built for 10 plus year would stick..for us it’s the same. Just in the complete opposite direction
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Duke isn't even going to make a bowl game. Are they better than 06 duke, sure, are they a decent football team? No.
 
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