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Dwinstitles said:
too close for comfort for me, that God awful
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Not only is it too close, but the size of a class matters. Quality depth matters. That's why the rankings take all of it into consideration.

And we'll see how that average looks come signing day after we pull in a few kids in the 82-85 range to fill in the class.
 
HSFC said:
and if I can pick some numbers and the power ball - I'd be a wealthy man. What has happened to date to lead you to believe Diaz and
his current staff and roster are in a position to do so? Offense was terrible with no apparent Qb in sight, and defense loses 4 of its most
productive players, and current recruiting class is at best lacking playmakers on either side of the ball
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Smith, huff, harvey, couch, and payton are definitely playmakers. We just happen to need a whole lot more of them.
 
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Andrew said:
Miami's first step to returning to prominence is dominating the ACC Coastal, and while this shouldn't be our main goal it should be an expectation every year.

Looking back at the last four recruiting cycles (including this one) we have had far superior recruiting class compared to every other team in the coastal. Simply put, we just have not performed to the level we have recruited.

Expecting guys like Rique to come to Miami when their only memories are of Coker getting fired, Shannon getting fired, Golden getting fired, No D as a coordinator lol, and Richt blowing **** is just not rational. Furthermore, we don't need Rique or five-star talent to dominate the coastal.

If Diaz skull ***** everyone in the coastal next year and we are competitive with Clemson in the ACC Championship game then we are going to start landing these guys and once that happens it is only a matter of time before we are back.

Go Canes!
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Your argument seems to be that our roster is good enough to win the Coastal. It should be. But I don’t see an explanation of why our recruiting class is good enough. Rosters turn over every few years so a bad recruiting class is a real issue looking forward.
 
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No_Fly_Zone said:
That is objectively false. VT's class is ranked better than ours.

This class is presently a botched abortion.
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Only because of numbers.
We have 15 recruits, they have 20.
A "decent" finish puts us 3-5 spots ahead of them.

Where VT sits on 247 for this year is at #29.
That's exactly what their average is the vast 5 years.
We've averaged #16 over the last 5.

After this year, our 5 year ranking average will probably drop 3 spots (behind Oregon, Michigan, & Ole ****) to #19.
That's still 10 spots ahead of VT.

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-college-footballs-rosters-2018

And before anyone jumps in, this is only to compare our class to VT.
I am NOT happy with a class ranking in the 20's.
 
JgDaCane said:
bingo
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Thats exactly whats happening on this website....people r holding onto hope and putting there blinders on when the signs r staring them in the face. We do this with every coach hire. U will see the DiazEra names the in Diaz i trust bs.....i stand behind diaz....then in two years those same people will be trying to kill him lol

I will not allow myself to get sucked into the bs. Show me results or gtfo
 
Ethnicsands said:
Your argument seems to be that our roster is good enough to win the Coastal. It should be. But I don’t see an explanation of why our recruiting class is good enough. Rosters turn over every few years so a bad recruiting class is a real issue looking forward.
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Oklahoma survived a class ranked in the 20's.
I believe they're the only one to make the CFBPO with a ranking 20, or worse, the previous 3 years.

'18-9th
'17-8th
'16-20th
'15-14th
'13-14th
13.0 Average

2 big reasons:
1) They followed the '16 class with 2 top-10 finishes, and,...
2) a "decent" QB
 
This is total bull**** & Canes' fans again living in a fantasy world. Yeah, right, we're good, because we use to be good.

First, talk of dominating the Coastal is typical fanboy bravado. Miami's at a point, and has been for years, where the objective is simply winning the Coastal. The idea of Miami being the dominant power is silly talk. Win the **** thing a few times and then let's maybe talk domination.

Another reality check - recruiting rankings don't mean **** unless you're Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, etc. and pulling Top 5 classes every year loaded with nothing but 4 and 5 stars. This again is fantasy bull****. Ok, according to some geek who makes a living compiling stats on 17 and 18 year olds, Miami's class has a 87.65 rating vs. VT's 87.06, so Miami is better? Please, this is stupid stuff.

No matter what the fantasy folks believe, Miami's talent isn't good enough to win ( did somebody say dominate, lol) when it doesn't have a quarterback, its offensive line is below average and its punt game is the laughing stock of college football.

Here's the reality - develop a style of play or system (Miami has on defense), stick with the system, recruit to the system, develop players in the system. In other words, determine what the **** you are. If you do that and stand by what you are, Miami will be a consistent, solid program. National title contenders? Not initially, but maybe again in time. This is how and why VT, Boston College, Duke, UVA, even Paul Johnson's GT have from time to time given Miami fits.
 
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Terrible class and on top of that we have and inept coach we need a absolute miracle we need one of these qbs to be special only way we have a chance at anything with this inept hire of diaz it will take a miracle
 
BBBBB said:
Our toss up games where we will have a dog fight is only UF and FSU this year i think we split those two games and lose to Clemson in conference title, that would be 11-2 going into bowl season probably ranked in top 15. With season like that we will have top 5 recruiting class is 2020 then we just build from there and we rolling.
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Sounds familiar
 
ForeveCane55 said:
Terrible class and on top of that we have and inept coach we need a absolute miracle we need one of these qbs to be special only way we have a chance at anything with this inept hire of diaz it will take a miracle
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Hey, don't be afraid to throw in a coma or period.
 
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Andrew said:
Miami's first step to returning to prominence is dominating the ACC Coastal, and while this shouldn't be our main goal it should be an expectation every year.

Looking back at the last four recruiting cycles (including this one) we have had far superior recruiting class compared to every other team in the coastal. Simply put, we just have not performed to the level we have recruited.

Expecting guys like Rique to come to Miami when their only memories are of Coker getting fired, Shannon getting fired, Golden getting fired, No D as a coordinator lol, and Richt blowing **** is just not rational. Furthermore, we don't need Rique or five-star talent to dominate the coastal.

If Diaz skull ***** everyone in the coastal next year and we are competitive with Clemson in the ACC Championship game then we are going to start landing these guys and once that happens it is only a matter of time before we are back.

Go Canes!
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Shouldn't call him "Rique."

Nicknames are for friends and family. This kid took a **** on Miami, therefore he is neither of those things.
 
Since 2015 we have signed 23 more 4 or 5-star recruits compared to VT. Fact is our roster is much more talented than theirs and we should skull **** the coastal. If we can't dominate the coastal then there is no point in signing guys like Rique. If we do dominate the coastal then we should have no problem signing those guys.
 
Andrew said:
Since 2015 we have signed 23 more 4 or 5-star recruits compared to VT. Fact is our roster is much more talented than theirs and we should skull **** the coastal. If we can't dominate the coastal then there is no point in signing guys like Rique. If we do dominate the coastal then we should have no problem signing those guys.
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Nah not the easy...Holes in the roster = not the talent you are making it out to be. Also coaching matters.
 
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