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JD08 said:
Dennis Erickson left our program in shambles, but people still speak of him with respect. Butch swept up the ashes and built the best college team ever and people here hate him.

Makes no sense.
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Do people hate Butch or hate hearing about him at every turn?

There seems to be a disconnect at times between people saying what he built was phenomenal and the 20+ years since….

As an analyst though, I’d be interested to hear why not…

I’d also be interested in understanding how such an eye for talent in such a talent rich area could lead to a 1-16 record over 2 seasons at FIU after being bowl eligible the previous few seasons.

Analyst seems low risk for Miami.
 
Holy, y'all are still talking about this made up fantasy thing of Butch Davis?

Get over it grey beards, and young bucks, look at Mark Richt, tired af and that energy and enthusiasm ain't there no more.

In those low paying jobs, get guys hungry or just mad scientist types from Div3 or 2 types that run different style off new and defenses.
They'll do what they have to even though your paying them pennies on the dollar.

Assembling a staff isn't rocket science.
 
Angry Ibis said:
Do people hate Butch or hate hearing about him at every turn?

There seems to be a disconnect at times between people saying what he built was phenomenal and the 20+ years since….

As an analyst though, I’d be interested to hear why not…

I’d also be interested in understanding how such an eye for talent in such a talent rich area could lead to a 1-16 record over 2 seasons at FIU after being bowl eligible the previous few seasons.

Analyst seems low risk for Miami.
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I'm sure it's both. But when people post all negative about him kinda points to hating him for at least a segment.
 
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JD08 said:
I'm sure it's both. But when people post all negative about him kinda points to hating him for at least a segment.
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It’s an interesting overall phenomenon of the board in general, but I’ll take it offline later to let the thread get back to whatever it was that was happening
 
RVACane said:
Who else besides @CFLCane and @Go Canes!! wants to go on record as saying they wouldn’t have Butch Davis on staff as an analyst?

I want to start a list and post it in the CIS stockade. Better yet, send you guys to the CIS basement like Milton in Office Space… oh… and uh… yeah…. So… I’m gonna need that stapler back.

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Cryptical Envelopment said:
Like, WFH? :)

Again, you don't let a cancer like that INTO THE BUILDING. At any position. It's a binary thing. Who he is as a person is directly in conflict with nearly all of Mario's core principles. This is binary and a non-starter.

Don't you think that there is a reason that the ONLY mentions of even the IDEA of this throughout a manic hiring season is by a few anons on a message board?

Mullen was just fired from a school up the highway from us right when Miami is building a staff, and there hasn't been a shred of an inkling of a suggestion of even a rumor connecting him and Miami. Why do you guys think that is? I am telling you, Mario wouldn't let a guy like that take a **** at the Hecht. Mario demands his staff grind hard, be relentless in everything they do. Mullen is a clown. FIT matters. Hiring Mullen would send a horrible message. Not happening. And would be a terrible idea.
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Yes you do, he's a great offensive mind. He doesn't need to interact with the kids which is the only potential concern.
 
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Gotta think that the guys against hiring Butch as an analyst have to be of the younger guys on here and have no clue what Butch helped this program accomplish with the recruits he brought here.

Not all the kids he recruited were 4-5* but with his evaluations a lot of 3* ended up looking like 4-5 *.

Butch would be one of the first calls I’d make if I’m looking for someone to help with evals…Will Mario? Who knows.

But if Mario does or doesn’t should never be the final judge as to if he’s qualified or not.Personally I hope Butch's phone rings from Mario.If it doesn’t that’s Marios call but never ever doubt the qualifications of Butch Davis as a judge of talent..only one close to him in my mind is JJ and I doubt there would be one one person against him if we were talking about JJ and not Butch.
 
Cajuncane said:
Gotta think that the guys against hiring Butch as an analyst have to be of the younger guys on here and have no clue what Butch helped this program accomplish with the recruits he brought here.

Not all the kids he recruited were 4-5* but with his evaluations a lot of 3* ended up looking like 4-5 *.

Butch would be one of the first calls I’d make if I’m looking for someone to help with evals…Will Mario? Who knows.

But if Mario does or doesn’t should never be the final judge as to if he’s qualified or not.Personally I hope Butch's phone rings from Mario.If it doesn’t that’s Marios call but never ever doubt the qualifications of Butch Davis as a judge of talent..only one close to him in my mind is JJ and I doubt there would be one one person against him if we were talking about JJ and not Butch.
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15-0 is long in the tooth like RVA yet here we are.
 
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I have a feeling, given the money that is being put into this staff for Mario to hire there will be some hires that will be quite shocking to this place. The board will be busy.
 
Brooklyndee said:
Depends. I doubt It cause it was intitially Ericson who recruited me. Than the whole investigation and all that nonsense. I probably still end up here. But I would've took more visits besides Michigan & here... Probably Texas too.
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Was that Michigan with Bo, Gary or Lloyd?
 
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RVACane said:
The hate is unreal. Like blinding. People can disagree with certain things but who in their right mind wouldn’t be thrilled to have Butch helping Mario as an analyst??? Not saying he’d do it as I don’t know that type of stuff but it’s a no-brainer.
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He's been unemployed 7 out of the last 12 years. So 125 teams passed on him 7 times each. Who's the blind ones?
 
CFLCane said:
He's been unemployed 7 out of the last 12 years. So 125 teams passed on him 7 times each. Who's the blind ones?
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Dude, you’re only making it worse saying you wouldn’t have him as an off-field analyst.
 
ben said:
Was that Michigan with Bo, Gary or Lloyd?
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Lloyd. My pops always told me that was his favorite stadium. I took my official at the end of the season if I remember right. They were playing Ohio state... There's few things as hurricanes we got in our feelings over. We know how to do big games don't get me wrong. But week in week out the way these big college towns do football is absurd. That was an insane experience and one I'll always remember. I was hosted by amani toomer & Charles woodson. Both good dudes & friends to this day. Amani showed me all around campus which is beautiful than at night Charles brought me to an orgy. Those chicks were wild. Gonna leave the rest of that story alone. I thought about them, but when butch came around it was just a different feeling about football down here then it was under Ericson. The way the Ob would sway & shake when fans would get wild. That ****** cvnt shalalalala really did destroy everything we were. But it's in the past. We're in the best position now than we've been in a long time. I really hope all the fans embrace this change and realize it's gonna take all of that and more. These kids need to start seeing support on a regular. If Miami football matters to y'all the way people try to make it seem than keep the criticism & all the negativity for the outsiders and show these kids love. Trust we gonna get this **** right. Y'all gonna love the staff and the kids coming in. Just show it.
 
Brooklyndee said:
Lloyd. My pops always told me that was his favorite stadium. I took my official at the end of the season if I remember right. They were playing Ohio state... There's few things as hurricanes we got in our feelings over. We know how to do big games don't get me wrong. But week in week out the way these big college towns do football is absurd. That was an insane experience and one I'll always remember. I was hosted by amani toomer & Charles woodson. Both good dudes & friends to this day. Amani showed me all around campus which is beautiful than at night Charles brought me to an orgy. Those chicks were wild. Gonna leave the rest of that story alone. I thought about them, but when butch came around it was just a different feeling about football down here then it was under Ericson. The way the Ob would sway & shake when fans would get wild. That ****** cvnt shalalalala really did destroy everything we were. But it's in the past. We're in the best position now than we've been in a long time. I really hope all the fans embrace this change and realize it's gonna take all of that and more. These kids need to start seeing support on a regular. If Miami football matters to y'all the way people try to make it seem than keep the criticism & all the negativity for the outsiders and show these kids love. Trust we gonna get this **** right. Y'all gonna love the staff and the kids coming in. Just show it.
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Wow Woodson was a hall of fame even before he got into the NFL based on this story
 
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