On a couple CB targets…

I don't actually know so this is a serious question.

Who give the final say on a prospect? Position coach or head coach or coordinator?

So position coach scouts out prospects, runs them up the chain (to coordinator then to head coach) then gets approval?

So Miami's case, position coach goes to coordinator then to Dennis Smith and he decides if Mario sees the prospect of not?

The coordinator or position coach can't go straight to Mario and say, "hey I really like this prospect, can we give him a scholly?"
Mario and Dennis have been together for almost 20 years, they have been through the **** together. He’s got Mario’s unwavering trust. He’s the GM, he is second only to Mario in player personnel decisions.
 
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DPP = Director of player personnel?

It's wild to me that somebody like that can shut down a recruit when the position coach wants him and the head coach hasn't even seen him.

I get it the head coach needs to delegate but I just don't see how you don't give the trust to the position coach + coordinator since they're the ones that have to make the meal with all the ingredients.

Yes, and the program I worked for…I’ll just say wasn’t chopped liver and put a ton of kids into the league. The DPP that hired me initially went on to be a GM in the league AND 2 of the DPP’s that were there have also been at UM over the past 15 years, whether it be coaching or personnel associated. One much more recent than the other. Point is, yes, it happens.
 
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Mario and Dennis have been together for almost 20 years, they have been through the **** together. He’s got Mario’s unwavering trust. He’s the GM, he is second only to Mario in player personnel decisions.
I just can’t get past the whole Central thing. The fact that Mario had to go personally fix something at a school that should he a feeder school for us is concerning. Hopefully MC had a serious convo with Dennis after that one.
 
Yes, and the program I worked for…I’ll just say wasn’t chopped liver and put a ton of kids into the league. The DPP that hired me initially went on to be a GM in the league AND 2 of the DPP’s that were there have also been at UM over the past 15 years, whether it be coaching or personnel associated. One much more recent than the other. Point is, yes, it happens.
I know who you worked for from RCT days 😁...
 
Yes, and the program I worked for…I’ll just say wasn’t chopped liver and put a ton of kids into the league. The DPP that hired me initially went on to be a GM in the league AND 2 of the DPP’s that were there have also been at UM over the past 15 years, whether it be coaching or personnel associated. One much more recent than the other. Point is, yes, it happens.
But Miamis DPP is Rumph and their recruiting director is Field. So where does Dennis Smith come into this?
 
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But Miamis DPP is Rumph and their recruiting director is Field. So where does Dennis Smith come into this?

DPP at one school could be labeled something else at another school. Whatever Smith’s title is at UM, appears to be that role that I am referencing.

Some schools call it director of recruiting, some label it GM. It’s all semantics and they structure it/title it however they want to. Bottomline, most of these schools do it the same way nowadays. Some coaches might be more/less willing to hear their guys out, some might not GAF. It just depends on the school.
 
@Memnon what are your thoughts here
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I ask this honestly and not being defensive: have you seen him play? I haven't, and I doubt many others have either.

That doesn't mean he'll be good. I didn't see Terry Roberts play before he came here and stunk. But I wonder how much (earned) distrust of our DB evals is driving this reaction.

And if people distrust our DB evals, which is understandable, do they trust Ole Miss? I've seen a lot of people saying we should be more like them.
 
This is like when you go to the all you can eat buffet and there's always one in the group that decides they just want a salad with some zesty French dressing.
 
Last thing I’m going to say. Do you know how recruiting even works? Addae was lazy, 100%, but coaches bring players in front of coaches. They bring kids on campus,, they facilitate kids with 7v7 at Miami etc. addae was not a good recruiter, but he did get over ruled by Dennis on multiple guys in the secondary
And I take it @1murhurricane would be considered a person like you're describing, correct?
 
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