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Notice of Allegations *update*

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JHallCanes said:
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ace said:
Allen Hurns, Deon Bush, Tracy Howard, Phillip Dorsett, Mike James
Robert Lockhart Jr.,Vaughn Telemaque, Duke Johnson, Malcolm Lewis, Larry Hope
Ryan Williams, Preston Dewey, Dalton Botts, Gionni Paul, D'Mauri Jones
Gray Crow, Tyriq McCord, Stephen Morris, Matt Goudis, David Thompson
Thomas Finnie, Brandon McGee, Kacy Rodgers II, Eduardo Clements, Davon Johnson
Dallas Crawford, Rayshawn Jenkins, A.J. Highsmith, Tyrone Cornileus, Danny Dillard
Maurice Hagens, Thurston Armbrister, Nate Dortch, Ladarius Gunter, Antonio Crawford
Jake Wieclaw, Eddie Johnson, Ramon Buchanan, Clive Walford, Dyron Dye
Shayon Green, Denzel Perryman, JaWand Blue, Ben Jones, Raphael Kirby
Gabriel Terry, Jimmy Gaines, Shane McDermott, Danny Isidora, Hunter Wells
Brandon Linder, Dequan Ivery, Corey King, Jeremy Lewis, Jon Feliciano
Anthony Chickillo, Earl Moore, Ereck Flowers, Jared Wheeler, Taylor Gadbois
Seantrel Henderson, Jermaine Johnson, Malcolm Bunche, Rashawn Scott, Jontavious Carter
Asante Cleveland, Kendal Thompkins, Cory White, David Perry, Herb Waters
Jacoby Briscoe, Ricardo Williams, Olsen Pierre, Jalen Grimble, Luther Robinson
Kelvin Cain, Jake O'Donnell, Curtis Porter, Dwayne Hoilett, Darius Smith
Jelani Hamilton

Those are the 81 listed on this site's roster (click football and select roster) that I think were on scholly. The one on Scout does not include Paul or J. Johnson and includes Swasey, so they have 80. I don't think Swasey counts. So if I remove Swasey from Scout's list and add in Paul and J. Johnson, that gives a total of 81.

I added V. Davis because he was in fall camp and counts.

I did not count Witt because I thibk they were able to designate him as someone who would not play football anymore effective this season.

So I think 82 counted against the 85 this season.

What does this have to do with sanctions? I don't know.

Hopefully any reductions in schollies we receive only affects the 85 limit and not the 25 limit.
Does UM know which model they are getting? I don't know, but I doubt it as I think that would come in the penalty phase.

Speaking of the 25 limit for '12, I lost count. There were 9 EEs in Jan. '12 and at least 7 counted towards the '11 25 limit. The 23 new guys that reported for fall camp (this includes V. Davis) counted against the '12 25 limit, so there is room to count at most 2 back to '12 now. There may be lest than that depending on how many of those 9 EEs really counted back to '11.

Again, I don't know what Golden can or has done to try to offset scholly reductions in the future as has been done with trying to offset the lost of bowl appearances
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Ace from the grassy board?
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Pretty obvious, no?

Every post he makes I have to read it 10 times before I understand it. (My problem not his)
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It's a mod thing, you deal with trolls all day and eventually you start questioning legit users..
 
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ace said:
Speaking of the 25 limit for '12, I lost count. There were 9 EEs in Jan. '12 and at least 7 counted towards the '11 25 limit. The 23 new guys that reported for fall camp (this includes V. Davis) counted against the '12 25 limit, so there is room to count at most 2 back to '12 now. There may be lest than that depending on how many of those 9 EEs really counted back to '11.
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http://canesinsight.com/showthread.php?40567-Official-CanesInSight-Recruit-Notebook-Class-of-2013



2011 Class

2011 Signing Class - (Finnie/Pierre counted towards 2010 class)
3. Junior Alexis (1)
4. Thurston Armbrister (2)
5. Dalton Botts (3)
6. Anthony Chickillo (4)
7. Dallas Crawford (5)
8. Phillip Dorsett (6)
9. Rashawn Scott (7)
10. Darius Smith (8)
11. Jalen Grimble (9)
12. Hunter Wells (10)
13. Matt Goudis (11)
14. Ricardo Williams (12)
15. Corey King (13)
16. Eddie Johnson (14)
17. Denzel Perryman (15)
18. Gionni Paul (16)
19. Ryan Williams (17)




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2012 Class


counted towards 2011 Signing Class
1. Josh Witt (18)
2. Raphael Kirby (19)
3. Larry Hope (20)
4. Ereck Flowers (21)
5. Preston Dewey (22)
6. Gray Crow (23)
7. Ladarius Gunter (24)
8. Dwayne Hoilett (25)



2012 Signing Class
9. Taylor Gadbois (1)
10. Jacoby Briscoe (2)
11. Deon Bush (3)
12. Jontavious Carter (4)
13. Antonio Crawford (5)
14. Vernon Davis (6)
15. Herb Waters (7)
16. Nate Dortch (8)
17. Jelani Hamilton (9)
18. Tracy Howard (10)
19. Danny Isidora (11)
20. Dequan Ivery (12)
21. JaWand Blue (13)
22. Rayshawn Jenkins (14)
23. Duke Johnson (15)
24. D'Mauri Jones (16)
25. Malcolm Lewis (17)
26. Robert Lockhart (18)
27. Tyriq McCord (19)
28. Earl Moore (20)
29. Jake O'Donnell (21)
30. Gabriel Terry (22)
31. David Thompson (23)
32. Danny Dillard (24)




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2013 Class


counted towards 2012 Signing Class
1. Beau Sandland (25)


2013 Signing Class
2. Hunter Knighton (1)
3. Artie Burns (2)
4. Jamal Carter (3)
5. Alex Figueroa (4)
6. Standish Dobard (5)
7. Alex Gall (6)
8. Devante Bond (7)
9. Jeremy Kerr (8)
10. Ray Lewis III (9)
11. Kevin Olsen (10)
12. Sonny Odogwu (11)
13. Alquadin Muhammad (12)
14. (13)
15. (14)
16. (15)
17. (16)
18. (17)
19. (18)
20. (19)
21. (20)
 
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"lack of institutional control" vs. "failure to monitor".

USC was nailed with LIC and Ohio State with FTM.

30 scholarships over 3 years vs. 9 over 3 years.

3 year postseason ban vs. 2 year postseason ban (REALLY ONLY ONE YEAR WITH SELF IMPOSED BAN).

HUGE DIFFERENCE!
 
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canesman said:
30 scholarships over 3 years vs. 9 over 3 years.

3 year postseason ban vs. 2 year postseason ban (REALLY ONLY ONE YEAR WITH SELF IMPOSED BAN).

HUGE DIFFERENCE!
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Besides the violations, the notice is not going to contain any of this stuff. Punishment comes from the infractions committee.
 
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Good call.

I just reviewed the notice of allegations Ohio State got.

They basically rehash the allegations and ask for documents.
 
OSU only got one post season ban and they never self imposed. That why their fans were mad this year because they would have been playing for a championship if they would have won their conf. title game.
 
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