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A little bit of NolesTears. Discussion on the Chris Parson(s) decommitment and Forfeit State's next moves. They've had a QB decommitment every year for the past 5 years. At least they're consistent.

FSU QB Decommitments
2022 - Chris Parson(s)
2021 - Nicco Marchiol
2020 - Luke Altmyer
2019 - Jeff Simms
2018 - Sam Howell

They're giddy over OL commitment Lucas Simmons playing, wait for it, "hand ball in Europe" and how it relates so well to football. Very optimistic on their offensive line recruiting and think Norvell is doing a good job with the OL. They believe their offensive line is going to attract skill players like Hykeem Williams. Their words not mine. I guess they're in it for Hykeem with no QB in the class? Hmmm.

They are cautiously optimistic about recruiting. They're also telling themselves there'll be decommitments at Miami and Florida by signing day.

They're talking about having self awareness as to why the recruiting hasn't gone well because of prior year losses. They believe a 4-1 start would create recruiting momentum.

They're also talking about the vibe in Tally with the students having NO optimism about their team.

This podcast was not as much fun as the delusion seams to be wearing off. This felt more like a group therapy session. Sad. I should send flowers. ;)

 
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Number1CanesFan said:
A little bit of NolesTears. Discussion on the Chris Parson(s) decommitment and Forfeit State's next moves. They've had a QB decommitment every year for the past 5 years. At least they're consistent.

FSU QB Decommitments
2022 - Chris Parson(s)
2021 - Nicco Marchiol
2020 - Luke Altmyer
2019 - Jeff Simms
2018 - Sam Howell

They're giddy over OL commitment Lucas Simmons playing, wait for it, "hand ball in Europe" and how it relates so well to football. Very optimistic on their offensive line recruiting and think Norvell is doing a good job with the OL. They believe their offensive line is going to attract skill players like Hykeem Williams. Their words not mine. I guess they're in it for Hykeem with no QB in the class? Hmmm.

They are cautiously optimistic about recruiting. They're also telling themselves there'll be decommitments at Miami and Florida by signing day.

They're talking about having self awareness as to why the recruiting hasn't gone well because of prior year losses. They believe a 4-1 start would create recruiting momentum.

They're also talking about the vibe in Tally with the students having no optimism about their team.

This podcast was not as much fun as the delusion seams to be wearing off. This felt more like a group therapy session. Sad. I should send flowers. ;)

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Oh bless their hearts
 
Dwinstitles said:
**** it was that bad?
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Most amazing games at the Orange Bowl (noise, insanity, people getting arrested) would be...

---September 27, 1986 - #1 Oklahomo vs. #2 Miami - Brian Bosworth effigies (MULTIPLE) hanging from the upper deck of the OB...guys went door to door in the UM dorms selling an orange t-shirt with white printing...all it said was: [image of middle finger] OU & THE BOZ....I bought two....

---September 5, 1987 - #20 Gaytors vs. #10 Miami - everyone knew this was the LAST TIME the Gaytors would play us annually...31-4 and Miami scored all the points, as we GAVE THEM 2 safeties on punt long-snaps that went out of the end zone...place was so loud, we rattled our own long-snapper...

---September 3, 1988 - Pre-season #1 F$U vs. #6 Miami - Yep, yep, this is the infamous "SemenHole Shuffle" game, where the SemenHoles made that god-awful rap video like they were the Chicago Bears. Do I need to remind everyone? THIRTY-ONE TO NOTHING.

---November 25, 1989 - #1 Notre Dame vs. #7 Miami - PURE HATRED. This was payback for the Cleveland Gary NON-FUMBLE call from 1988, when we SHOULD HAVE won the national championship AGAIN. It was THIS GAME that Notre Dame cited for not playing us any longer.

---October 3, 1992 - #3 F$U vs. #2 Miami - WIDE RIGHT II. Need I say more?

---October 7, 2000 - #1 F$U vs. #7 Miami - WIDE RIGHT III. This is the game that ended a string of 5-straight losses to F$U. Cathartic. Should have played for a national championship under Butch, and we were robbed by THESE SEMENHOLES sneaking in ahead of us in the BCS rankings.

---November 24, 2001 - #11 Washington vs. #2 Miami - soooo much payback for the loss to Washington in 2000, and the only thing that keeps this from being near-perfection was that it happened over Thanksgiving weekend. SIXTY-FIVE TO SEVEN.

---October 12, 2002 - #9 F$U vs. #1 Miami - WIDE LEFT - Miami as the defending national champ and (almost, technically) a wire-to-wire champion.


I was there for every one of those games. There may be "more important" games (Miami's first national championship), but there have never been eight more INSANE games in Orange Bowl history.

Every one of those 8 games could be a chapter in a book. Or a whole book.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Most amazing games at the Orange Bowl (noise, insanity, people getting arrested) would be...

---September 27, 1986 - #1 Oklahomo vs. #2 Miami - Brian Bosworth effigies (MULTIPLE) hanging from the upper deck of the OB...guys went door to door in the UM dorms selling an orange t-shirt with white printing...all it said was: [image of middle finger] OU & THE BOZ....I bought two....

---September 5, 1987 - #20 Gaytors vs. #10 Miami - everyone knew this was the LAST TIME the Gaytors would play us annually...31-4 and Miami scored all the points, as we GAVE THEM 2 safeties on punt long-snaps that went out of the end zone...place was so loud, we rattled our own long-snapper...

---September 3, 1988 - Pre-season #1 F$U vs. #6 Miami - Yep, yep, this is the infamous "SemenHole Shuffle" game, where the SemenHoles made that god-awful rap video like they were the Chicago Bears. Do I need to remind everyone? THIRTY-ONE TO NOTHING.

---November 25, 1989 - #1 Notre Dame vs. #7 Miami - PURE HATRED. This was payback for the Cleveland Gary NON-FUMBLE call from 1988, when we SHOULD HAVE won the national championship AGAIN. It was THIS GAME that Notre Dame cited for not playing us any longer.

---October 3, 1992 - #3 F$U vs. #2 Miami - WIDE RIGHT II. Need I say more?

---October 7, 2000 - #1 F$U vs. #7 Miami - WIDE RIGHT III. This is the game that ended a string of 5-straight losses to F$U. Cathartic. Should have played for a national championship under Butch, and we were robbed by THESE SEMENHOLES sneaking in ahead of us in the BCS rankings.

---November 24, 2001 - #11 Washington vs. #2 Miami - soooo much payback for the loss to Washington in 2000, and the only thing that keeps this from being near-perfection was that it happened over Thanksgiving weekend. SIXTY-FIVE TO SEVEN.

---October 12, 2002 - #9 F$U vs. #1 Miami - WIDE LEFT - Miami as the defending national champ and (almost, technically) a wire-to-wire champion.


I was there for every one of those games. There may be "more important" games (Miami's first national championship), but there have never been eight more INSANE games in Orange Bowl history.

Every one of those 8 games could be a chapter in a book. Or a whole book.
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94 UM vs FSU was Pure insanity....(remember, they were defending NCs) It wasn't 89 UM vs ND Absurdity....but it was certainly no slouch. Without Question, the Carlos Jones Pick 6 is the loudest moment in OB History. @TheOriginalCane ...I was at all the above games as well. And the Noise level Award for an "Entire" game EASILY goes to 89 UM vs ND.....
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Most amazing games at the Orange Bowl (noise, insanity, people getting arrested) would be...

---September 27, 1986 - #1 Oklahomo vs. #2 Miami - Brian Bosworth effigies (MULTIPLE) hanging from the upper deck of the OB...guys went door to door in the UM dorms selling an orange t-shirt with white printing...all it said was: [image of middle finger] OU & THE BOZ....I bought two....

---September 5, 1987 - #20 Gaytors vs. #10 Miami - everyone knew this was the LAST TIME the Gaytors would play us annually...31-4 and Miami scored all the points, as we GAVE THEM 2 safeties on punt long-snaps that went out of the end zone...place was so loud, we rattled our own long-snapper...

---September 3, 1988 - Pre-season #1 F$U vs. #6 Miami - Yep, yep, this is the infamous "SemenHole Shuffle" game, where the SemenHoles made that god-awful rap video like they were the Chicago Bears. Do I need to remind everyone? THIRTY-ONE TO NOTHING.

---November 25, 1989 - #1 Notre Dame vs. #7 Miami - PURE HATRED. This was payback for the Cleveland Gary NON-FUMBLE call from 1988, when we SHOULD HAVE won the national championship AGAIN. It was THIS GAME that Notre Dame cited for not playing us any longer.

---October 3, 1992 - #3 F$U vs. #2 Miami - WIDE RIGHT II. Need I say more?

---October 7, 2000 - #1 F$U vs. #7 Miami - WIDE RIGHT III. This is the game that ended a string of 5-straight losses to F$U. Cathartic. Should have played for a national championship under Butch, and we were robbed by THESE SEMENHOLES sneaking in ahead of us in the BCS rankings.

---November 24, 2001 - #11 Washington vs. #2 Miami - soooo much payback for the loss to Washington in 2000, and the only thing that keeps this from being near-perfection was that it happened over Thanksgiving weekend. SIXTY-FIVE TO SEVEN.

---October 12, 2002 - #9 F$U vs. #1 Miami - WIDE LEFT - Miami as the defending national champ and (almost, technically) a wire-to-wire champion.


I was there for every one of those games. There may be "more important" games (Miami's first national championship), but there have never been eight more INSANE games in Orange Bowl history.

Every one of those 8 games could be a chapter in a book. Or a whole book.
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Great run down brother. Thanks.
 
SWFLHurricane said:
94 UM vs FSU was Pure insanity....(remember, they were defending NCs) It wasn't 89 UM vs ND Absurdity....but it was certainly no slouch. Without Question, the Carlos Jones Pick 6 is the loudest moment in OB History. @TheOriginalCane ...I was at all the above games as well. And the Noise level Award for an "Entire" game EASILY goes to 89 UM vs ND.....
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Yeah, it is so hard to rank, but I think the "Catholics vs. Convicts", the 1988 non-fumble, and the fact that ND was essentially dumping us at the time were those "extra" extras that pushed that game over the top.

Miami-Florida 1987 and Miami-Washington 2001 slip in the second halves for being blowouts. Same with Miami-F$U 1988, though I love that game sooo much.

But the other three F$U "kick" games, and the Miami-Oklahomo game, were insane from start-to-finish. So those 4, plus Miami-Notre Shame, make up the Top 5 all-time Orange Bowl games, for 60 minutes of pure insanity.

1. Miami-Notre Dame 1989
2. Miami-F$U 1992 - Wide Right II (It happened AGAIN?)
3. Miami-Oklahomo 1986
4. Miami-F$U 2000 - Wide Right III
5. Miami-F$U 2002 - Wide Left

Not only was the Orange Bowl in structural danger in all of those games, but it could have been possible for the whole thing to collapse during the post-game celebration too.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Most amazing games at the Orange Bowl (noise, insanity, people getting arrested) would be...

---September 27, 1986 - #1 Oklahomo vs. #2 Miami - Brian Bosworth effigies (MULTIPLE) hanging from the upper deck of the OB...guys went door to door in the UM dorms selling an orange t-shirt with white printing...all it said was: [image of middle finger] OU & THE BOZ....I bought two....

---September 5, 1987 - #20 Gaytors vs. #10 Miami - everyone knew this was the LAST TIME the Gaytors would play us annually...31-4 and Miami scored all the points, as we GAVE THEM 2 safeties on punt long-snaps that went out of the end zone...place was so loud, we rattled our own long-snapper...

---September 3, 1988 - Pre-season #1 F$U vs. #6 Miami - Yep, yep, this is the infamous "SemenHole Shuffle" game, where the SemenHoles made that god-awful rap video like they were the Chicago Bears. Do I need to remind everyone? THIRTY-ONE TO NOTHING.

---November 25, 1989 - #1 Notre Dame vs. #7 Miami - PURE HATRED. This was payback for the Cleveland Gary NON-FUMBLE call from 1988, when we SHOULD HAVE won the national championship AGAIN. It was THIS GAME that Notre Dame cited for not playing us any longer.

---October 3, 1992 - #3 F$U vs. #2 Miami - WIDE RIGHT II. Need I say more?

---October 7, 2000 - #1 F$U vs. #7 Miami - WIDE RIGHT III. This is the game that ended a string of 5-straight losses to F$U. Cathartic. Should have played for a national championship under Butch, and we were robbed by THESE SEMENHOLES sneaking in ahead of us in the BCS rankings.

---November 24, 2001 - #11 Washington vs. #2 Miami - soooo much payback for the loss to Washington in 2000, and the only thing that keeps this from being near-perfection was that it happened over Thanksgiving weekend. SIXTY-FIVE TO SEVEN.

---October 12, 2002 - #9 F$U vs. #1 Miami - WIDE LEFT - Miami as the defending national champ and (almost, technically) a wire-to-wire champion.


I was there for every one of those games. There may be "more important" games (Miami's first national championship), but there have never been eight more INSANE games in Orange Bowl history.

Every one of those 8 games could be a chapter in a book. Or a whole book.
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94 FSU is the loudest game and craziest experience I ever attended. That has to be on the list. I couldn’t hear myself think in the WEZ.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Man, if I could cut out a piece of my brain to share those memories with you, I would. Although I was probably seriously inebriated for parts of those games in the 80s and 90s...
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Well all of us that didn’t get to grow up or live down there and experience a lot of that appreciate the stories. So keep sharing. I’m sure there are a lot of us that have had to live and feed into this passion we share through the lens of the boob tube. One of my bucket list wishes is when I retire to go 1 season where I go to every ***ing game. Home and away. Glad I didn’t do it the past 15 years lol.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Yeah, it is so hard to rank, but I think the "Catholics vs. Convicts", the 1988 non-fumble, and the fact that ND was essentially dumping us at the time were those "extra" extras that pushed that game over the top.

Miami-Florida 1987 and Miami-Washington 2001 slip in the second halves for being blowouts. Same with Miami-F$U 1988, though I love that game sooo much.

But the other three F$U "kick" games, and the Miami-Oklahomo game, were insane from start-to-finish. So those 4, plus Miami-Notre Shame, make up the Top 5 all-time Orange Bowl games, for 60 minutes of pure insanity.

1. Miami-Notre Dame 1989
2. Miami-F$U 1992 - Wide Right II (It happened AGAIN?)
3. Miami-Oklahomo 1986
4. Miami-F$U 2000 - Wide Right III
5. Miami-F$U 2002 - Wide Left

Not only was the Orange Bowl in structural danger in all of those games, but it could have been possible for the whole thing to collapse during the post-game celebration too.
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The SECOND Carlos Jones crossed the GL....it sounded like an A-Bomb went off. The place was already in Hysterics from the play before (Lang & Sapp Sacking Kanell)....I was sitting with my former wife, literally with Los running right at us...
 
Hurracanes said:
94 FSU is the loudest game and craziest experience I ever attended. That has to be on the list. I couldn’t hear myself think in the WEZ.
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I think it's at #9 for me. I'd probably put the 2003 game against the Gaytors at #10, lots of residual Ohio Taint anger. #11 would be the 2000 game against VaTech, that would have cracked the Top 10 if Michael Vick had been healthy that day, there was a LOT of hatred towards Vick that got blunted because he didn't play.

Pound-for-pound (because it was not a sellout), the 1998 UCLA was pretty crazy, the high score really helped to amp things up.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Most amazing games at the Orange Bowl (noise, insanity, people getting arrested) would be...

---September 27, 1986 - #1 Oklahomo vs. #2 Miami - Brian Bosworth effigies (MULTIPLE) hanging from the upper deck of the OB...guys went door to door in the UM dorms selling an orange t-shirt with white printing...all it said was: [image of middle finger] OU & THE BOZ....I bought two....

---September 5, 1987 - #20 Gaytors vs. #10 Miami - everyone knew this was the LAST TIME the Gaytors would play us annually...31-4 and Miami scored all the points, as we GAVE THEM 2 safeties on punt long-snaps that went out of the end zone...place was so loud, we rattled our own long-snapper...

---September 3, 1988 - Pre-season #1 F$U vs. #6 Miami - Yep, yep, this is the infamous "SemenHole Shuffle" game, where the SemenHoles made that god-awful rap video like they were the Chicago Bears. Do I need to remind everyone? THIRTY-ONE TO NOTHING.

---November 25, 1989 - #1 Notre Dame vs. #7 Miami - PURE HATRED. This was payback for the Cleveland Gary NON-FUMBLE call from 1988, when we SHOULD HAVE won the national championship AGAIN. It was THIS GAME that Notre Dame cited for not playing us any longer.

---October 3, 1992 - #3 F$U vs. #2 Miami - WIDE RIGHT II. Need I say more?

---October 7, 2000 - #1 F$U vs. #7 Miami - WIDE RIGHT III. This is the game that ended a string of 5-straight losses to F$U. Cathartic. Should have played for a national championship under Butch, and we were robbed by THESE SEMENHOLES sneaking in ahead of us in the BCS rankings.

---November 24, 2001 - #11 Washington vs. #2 Miami - soooo much payback for the loss to Washington in 2000, and the only thing that keeps this from being near-perfection was that it happened over Thanksgiving weekend. SIXTY-FIVE TO SEVEN.

---October 12, 2002 - #9 F$U vs. #1 Miami - WIDE LEFT - Miami as the defending national champ and (almost, technically) a wire-to-wire champion.


I was there for every one of those games. There may be "more important" games (Miami's first national championship), but there have never been eight more INSANE games in Orange Bowl history.

Every one of those 8 games could be a chapter in a book. Or a whole book.
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Thanks!

I would add the Sept. 7, 2003 prime time showdown between the #18 Gaytor vs #3 Canes at the Grand Ole Lady. Canes won the contest 38-33.

Canes started off hot with an unbelievable Devin Hester opening kickoff for a TD! I was already hammered and thought it was game, set and match. No idea, we would struggle and all of the sudden we were down 33-10 in the 3rd qtr…next thing you know we go into a hurry up 3 and 4 WR wide offensive attack and the Offense took off! The crowd was intense, loud and obnoxious into the 4th..by then my homies and I were talking the ***** and ready to fight any Gaytor!

Late in the 4th qtr Canes mounted an awesome drive capping it off with the GOAT Gore crossing the end zone for the winning score. Brock Berlin had a second half production of any QB lifetime!

Remember walking out of the stadium with my boyz talking the ultimate 💩💩 with every Gaytor within 50 yards of me. Glorious!!!
 
SWFLHurricane said:
The 89 ND game will always be the Gold Medal...Lou Holtz said he never heard anything like it. For 2hrs before KO....till an hour after the game, it was complete insanity.
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The filthy words that I heard that day...the pure blasphemy...and that was from females in the student section...
 
561Cane said:
Thanks!

I would add the Sept. 7, 2003 prime time showdown between the #18 Gaytor vs #3 Canes at the Grand Ole Lady. Canes won the contest 38-33.

Canes started off hot with an unbelievable Devin Hester opening kickoff for a TD! I was already hammered and thought it was game, set and match. No idea, we would struggle and all of the sudden we were down 33-10 in the 3rd qtr…next thing you know we go into a hurry up 3 and 4 WR wide offensive attack and the Offense took off! The crowd was intense, loud and obnoxious into the 4th..by then my homies and I were talking the ***** and ready to fight any Gaytor!

Late in the 4th qtr Canes mounted an awesome drive capping it off with the GOAT Gore crossing the end zone for the winning score. Brock Berlin had a second half production of any QB lifetime!

Remember walking out of the stadium with my boyz talking the ultimate 💩💩 with every Gaytor within 50 yards of me. Glorious!!!
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Yessir, I had a later post where I put that one at #10. Great game.
 
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