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Nigel Bethel, Jr. to visit Miami January 26th weekend

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stb said:
AUcane said:
checked out his track times and was expecting a little faster. Never broke 10.8 or 22 for 100/200, it seems.
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Surtain did not break those time barriers either------100m 10.87, 200M--22.14
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=7749767#!/L0


Bethel did break 22.0 at 200m--21.57 and 100m--21.78
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=9249645#!/L0
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Surtain started at CB for his HS football team though and has football offers from the top programs in the nation.
 
AustinCane6688 said:
supersaiyanshel said:
You'll see a player like Bethel in alot of classes. Bama seems take a 3 star kid without that impressive of an offer sheet at least once a year. Some times staffs just fall in love with a player.
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Thought you were full of crap but then found this kid they just took:

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/jerome-ford-167799

Also this kid last year

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2017/thomas-fletcher-28983

This guy in 2016

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2016/aaron-robinson-1848
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Take it back all the way to the Javier Arenas days (who wasn't highly regarded AT ALL). He was a beast for them on Special Teams.
 
CarolCityHigh said:
Odin said:
valid said:
yall sleep on this guy. wouldn't surprise me at all if he's just as good as Campbell in college if not better. he has the physical tools.
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Campbell is 6-3 180 and ran a 10.4,special,special talent.
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The knife cuts both ways. This kid was a walk-on at Bama and put may those 5 star speedsters on the bench.............his best 100m in high school was 11.04.

https://www.google.com/search?safe=...470...0i20i263k1j35i39k1j0i67k1.0.jmXLdQqtG4Y
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Levi Wallace in High School best time was 100m --11.26 and 200m--22.80
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=1820482#!/L0

Yes and we do not the depth yet like Bama with all those 4 and 5 star recruits.
 
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DMoney said:
Jassid82 said:
Would love to get Liberty City El's perspective on this. Ill run with whatever he says but if we are taking flyers..this is the type of kid you do it for.
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Here you go:

Liberty City El said:
He had 4rec 61yds vs CC back in October
1rec 52yds & 1TD vs Central
3rec 90yds vs Norland
4rec 72yds vs CC in the playoffs

He was used primarily as a Deep ball WR to stretch the field & take the top off the Defense in a QB run first offense with Tutu.

He's a versatile athlete with good speed, good feet & hips, he's not just some bum that's a 25th hour add. He's a take imo.

For a comparison I would say he's a taller Kayvon Webster with similar speed.
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If LCE says hes a take. Then hes a take.
 
Jassid82 said:
DMoney said:
Jassid82 said:
Would love to get Liberty City El's perspective on this. Ill run with whatever he says but if we are taking flyers..this is the type of kid you do it for.
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Here you go:

Liberty City El said:
He had 4rec 61yds vs CC back in October
1rec 52yds & 1TD vs Central
3rec 90yds vs Norland
4rec 72yds vs CC in the playoffs

He was used primarily as a Deep ball WR to stretch the field & take the top off the Defense in a QB run first offense with Tutu.

He's a versatile athlete with good speed, good feet & hips, he's not just some bum that's a 25th hour add. He's a take imo.

For a comparison I would say he's a taller Kayvon Webster with similar speed.
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If LCE says hes a take. Then hes a take.
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Lol... Hey I just offer my opinon like everyone else, there are far more qualified guys on here than me.

The staff obviously likes Bethel & if he visits on the 26th & they want him, I don't see why he wouldn't be a take.

He's a tall fast kid & good athlete with some legit upside, everyone is down on him but he's a kid that you can take & continue to develop for a few years.

If you're expecting him to start from day 1 then you'll be mad because that's not what he is as a prospect. But can he be a good player down the line, I believe so.
 
@LCE...Hey man, you have seen the kid play live more then 90% of the guys on here. Most of them are either looking at his lack of stars or lack of offers as a reason to **** on him.

I am in the group that sees a kid who is 6'0 180 and running a legit 4.3 AND has the hips to play DB AND is from MNW and saying we at least need to have a conversation with him in case all **** breaks loose and we strike out with TC and PS2. Kids with those measurables arent walking around everyday.
 
AustinCane6688 said:
supersaiyanshel said:
You'll see a player like Bethel in alot of classes. Bama seems take a 3 star kid without that impressive of an offer sheet at least once a year. Some times staffs just fall in love with a player.
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Thought you were full of crap but then found this kid they just took:

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/jerome-ford-167799

Also this kid last year

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2017/thomas-fletcher-28983

This guy in 2016

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2016/aaron-robinson-1848
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jerome ford is a 4 star RB on 247
https://247sports.com/Player/Jerome-Ford-90594


fletcher is a long snapper
https://247sports.com/player/thomas-fletcher-88448


and as for aaron robinson...well:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...robinson-transfer-alabama-20170729-story.html
 
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Jassid82 said:
@LCE...Hey man, you have seen the kid play live more then 90% of the guys on here. Most of them are either looking at his lack of stars or lack of offers as a reason to **** on him.

I am in the group that sees a kid who is 6'0 180 and running a legit 4.3 AND has the hips to play DB AND is from MNW and saying we at least need to have a conversation with him in case all **** breaks loose and we strike out with TC and PS2. Kids with those measurables arent walking around everyday.
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Didn't as much this year, I moved, I don't live in Fla anymore. But from what I've seen before & what my family who are still in Mia tell me I trust cause they're close to it.

I don't get the hate for this kid though, if this was a Folden eval I would be totally against it, but this staff deserves the benefit of the doubt imo. They've shown they can maximize prospects like Bethel & he would be a long term plan, not someone they would expect to come in & log snaps day 1 as a CB. But on ST's he can make an early impact, that 4.3-4.4 speed is for real.
 
The black *** is the type of down-the-road guy Miami should be taking, if any. But I’ve only seen Bethel (and by that I mean, not seen him make a play) in two games. I could be wrong. Maybe he becomes a major special teams player.
 
Liberty City El said:
Jassid82 said:
@LCE...Hey man, you have seen the kid play live more then 90% of the guys on here. Most of them are either looking at his lack of stars or lack of offers as a reason to **** on him.

I am in the group that sees a kid who is 6'0 180 and running a legit 4.3 AND has the hips to play DB AND is from MNW and saying we at least need to have a conversation with him in case all **** breaks loose and we strike out with TC and PS2. Kids with those measurables arent walking around everyday.
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Didn't as much this year, I moved, I don't live in Fla anymore. But from what I've seen before & what my family who are still in Mia tell me I trust cause they're close to it.

I don't get the hate for this kid though, if this was a Folden eval I would be totally against it, but this staff deserves the benefit of the doubt imo. They've shown they can maximize prospects like Bethel & he would be a long term plan, not someone they would expect to come in & log snaps day 1 as a CB. But on ST's he can make an early impact, that 4.3-4.4 speed is for real.
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The "hate" probably stems from his offer list of FIU/Akron/Tulane and that ilk and that he didn't play CB in HS and didn't make many plays on the football field. I don't hate him; I just don't think we build a champion striking out on 5 star CBs and replacing them with Akron players.
 
This is the exact type of kid who goes to Louisville or West Virginia and becomes an all conference type of kid who we then later question how he got away. Definite take if we miss on the Heritage Duo.
 
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The Franchise said:
Liberty City El said:
Jassid82 said:
@LCE...Hey man, you have seen the kid play live more then 90% of the guys on here. Most of them are either looking at his lack of stars or lack of offers as a reason to **** on him.

I am in the group that sees a kid who is 6'0 180 and running a legit 4.3 AND has the hips to play DB AND is from MNW and saying we at least need to have a conversation with him in case all **** breaks loose and we strike out with TC and PS2. Kids with those measurables arent walking around everyday.
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Didn't as much this year, I moved, I don't live in Fla anymore. But from what I've seen before & what my family who are still in Mia tell me I trust cause they're close to it.

I don't get the hate for this kid though, if this was a Folden eval I would be totally against it, but this staff deserves the benefit of the doubt imo. They've shown they can maximize prospects like Bethel & he would be a long term plan, not someone they would expect to come in & log snaps day 1 as a CB. But on ST's he can make an early impact, that 4.3-4.4 speed is for real.
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The "hate" probably stems from his offer list of FIU/Akron/Tulane and that ilk and that he didn't play CB in HS and didn't make many plays on the football field. I don't hate him; I just don't think we build a champion striking out on 5 star CBs and replacing them with Akron players.
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He's not a replacement for either of the AH kids, but that doesn't mean he can't play at Miami.

And UCF is actually recruiting him at the moment, he's not a Akron player, but I get your point.

Look, I think the kid can be a good player it's not a matter of life & death, if you don't that's cool too I respect your opinion.

We'll find out if the staff really wants him or not, if he ends up signing with Miami then we'll see what he becomes as a player.
 
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If he can actually help with kickoff/punt returns, I would take him regardless of if TC/PS2 join Storm18. Our kickoff return was atrocious and it got to the point where Thomas getting to the 30 was a big return. Our punt return was solid with Berrios but he didn't have game breaking ability. I almost wish we would have offered Johnny Ford just for his return ability but if Bethel can provide some juice for special teams, sign me up.
 
The Franchise said:
stb said:
AUcane said:
checked out his track times and was expecting a little faster. Never broke 10.8 or 22 for 100/200, it seems.
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Surtain did not break those time barriers either------100m 10.87, 200M--22.14
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=7749767#!/L0


Bethel did break 22.0 at 200m--21.57 and 100m--21.78
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=9249645#!/L0
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Surtain started at CB for his HS football team though and has football offers from the top programs in the nation.
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So what?
 
The Franchise said:
stb said:
AUcane said:
checked out his track times and was expecting a little faster. Never broke 10.8 or 22 for 100/200, it seems.
Click to expand...
Surtain did not break those time barriers either------100m 10.87, 200M--22.14
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=7749767#!/L0


Bethel did break 22.0 at 200m--21.57 and 100m--21.78
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=9249645#!/L0
Click to expand...

Surtain started at CB for his HS football team though and has football offers from the top programs in the nation.
Click to expand...

So what?
 
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