Nigel Bethel, Jr. to visit Miami January 26th weekend

[AlaskaCane]

Too many people worried about his offer list... I see upside and a pipeline connect hopefully

 

[Rellyrell]

Too many people worried about his offer list... I see upside and a pipeline connect hopefully

Tired of this narrative, no lie. Back then, it was called a Golden special. Before then, it was called a Randy special. I’ll be **** to start substituting guys for a Randy special. TC or bust. If u’re not landing TC then use that a scholly on another DL or LB

 

[Gatorhater]

Losing Campbell would be devastating but this isn’t Golden. We have four real DBs in the boat, three of whom were recruited by everyone. Bethel would add some much needed speed and upside.

If a 6’1, 4.35 corner from Northwestern made the league, and we missed him, there would be **** to pay. Bethel’s traits are unique and highly valued at corner. If he’s coachable, bring him in and develop him.

D, what's the deal with his lack of offers? You'd think he'd have more P5 offers.

Do you think Nick Saban doesn't know that this kid runs a 4.35 (if that time is even legit)?

Do you think Kirby Smart doesn't know about this kid.... who plays at the most visible and heavily recruited high school in America?

Not good enough for those guys but good enough for Miami, apparently.

Yet when it comes to offering Nick Bonitto or Xavier Peters, we don't have room. But we're gonna take this scrub that noone else wants? Yeah no thanks.

I'm not even talking about Bama. I mean, where's Auburn? Louisville? Kentucky? Indiana? I mean, I'm seeing UCF, Akron, FIU, and Bowling Green as offers. Just doesn't compute.

I don’t know crap about this kid, but the only undefeated major team in the country offers and the God recruiting does too and those offers don’t count? If he is 4.3 and over 6’ I have no problem taking him. Do we have any 4.3 guys on the team?

 

[orange&green84]

I want him this class even if we get Campbell and Surtain

You wouldn't have room for him in this case considering we have to add at least 4-5 d-linemen.

 

[RealDBC13]

Bethel is a plan D guy. Offering him, means we missed on both Campbell and Surtain. So Bethel will be getting his offer very soon and some will find a way to paint that as something positive.

How does offering him after missing on maybe the 2 best corners in the nation = plan D?

The kid is plan B, plain and simple...You take Plan B kids from Miami NW/Miami Central/BTW, etc...In a heartbeat

He is plan B genius? That is why we are two weeks before NSD and Bethel does not have any offers from any of the good football programs. The guy was dropped by the Gators and never had an offer from the Noles. Asante was our Plan B guy and we whiffed on that badly.

 

[ShadowSpring]

Speed kills.

 

[KrazyCane]

Bethel is a plan D guy. Offering him, means we missed on both Campbell and Surtain. So Bethel will be getting his offer very soon and some will find a way to paint that as something positive.

How does offering him after missing on maybe the 2 best corners in the nation = plan D?

The kid is plan B, plain and simple...You take Plan B kids from Miami NW/Miami Central/BTW, etc...In a heartbeat

He is plan B genius? That is why we are two weeks before NSD and Bethel does not have any offers from any of the good football programs. The guy was dropped by the Gators and never had an offer from the Noles. Asante was our Plan B guy and we whiffed on that badly.

Asamte is 5'9 corner that weighs 150lbs his upside stopped after his senior year... based on potential Bethel is a much better prospect .. I would take him in a heart beat and not cry like a bxtch about who whiffed?? So what groupie shut yo bxtch *** up

 

[L A M P]

I'm not even talking about Bama. I mean, where's Auburn? Louisville? Kentucky? Indiana? I mean, I'm seeing UCF, Akron, FIU, and Bowling Green as offers. Just doesn't compute.

I don’t know crap about this kid, but the only undefeated major team in the country offers and the God recruiting does too and those offers don’t count? If he is 4.3 and over 6’ I have no problem taking him. Do we have any 4.3 guys on the team?

Pointing out UCF & FIU as his big offers does not bode well for your argument. He is a MAC/Conference USA caliber recruit. Why try to spin it? Losing the #1 CB (that should be a lock) & signing a Plan C kid is a big deal. It's why we have been mediocre for so long.. That won't change signing projects.

 

[Captain Uberpants]

Next year we have at CB:

Jackson (SR)
Young
Dean (SR)
Bandy

Freshmen:

Blades
Ivey
Frierson (probably should be at FS though getting ready to take Redwines spot)

So we have 6/7 CBs on the roster and just like DT, we are an injury or 2 away from disaster.

With 2 graduating next year, it’s in our best interest to take another CB this year to fill the void in 2019.


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[supersaiyanshel]

Next year we have at CB:

Jackson (SR)
Young
Dean (SR)
Bandy

Freshmen:

Blades
Ivey
Frierson (probably should be at FS though getting ready to take Redwines spot)

So we have 6/7 CBs on the roster and just like DT, we are an injury or 2 away from disaster.

With 2 graduating next year, it’s in our best interest to take another CB this year to fill the void in 2019.


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Defensive recruiting has been severely lacking.

 

[WhatTheHell]

As we humiliate ourselves and whiff on Campbell, PSJ, and Jobe, this guy needs an offer.

 

[brock]

If he plays then we clearly have failed recruiting the position between the 2017 class through 2019.... which is why we don’t necessrrily “need” to offer him

 

[Jassid82]

Too many people worried about his offer list... I see upside and a pipeline connect hopefully

Tired of this narrative, no lie. Back then, it was called a Golden special. Before then, it was called a Richt special. I’ll be **** to start substituting guys for a Richt special. TC or bust. If u’re not landing TC then use that a scholly on another DL or LB

I am not saying give the kid a scholie but name me one "Golden Special" that was 6'0 180 with legit 4.3 speed that was the athlete this kid is and could play DB...Ill wait..

(I dont mind specials here and there if they have the athletic makeup of this kid. He has attributes that cant be taught.)

 

[Captain Uberpants]

If he plays then we clearly have failed recruiting the position between the 2017 class through 2019.... which is why we don’t necessrrily “need” to offer him

So far we’ve signed 4 HS CBs in 3 years (Young, Bandy, Blades, Ivey). I consider FS Frierson’s best position so not going to include him.

That’s just a big of fail as DT considering CBs grow on trees down here.

This class needed to get the numbers right. Remember all the talk of signing 7 DBs and it being the greatest DB class on paper? We signed 4 (very good ones) and that appears to be it. It’s a miss (again), simple as that.

With all that being said, IF we land either Surtain or Campbell all is forgiven as both of them are Day 1, 3 year and gone starter types.


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[skeeter]

Too many people worried about his offer list... I see upside and a pipeline connect hopefully

Tired of this narrative, no lie. Back then, it was called a Golden special. Before then, it was called a Richt special. I’ll be **** to start substituting guys for a Richt special. TC or bust. If u’re not landing TC then use that a scholly on another DL or LB

The difference is Golden had 5-8 of them per class...This kid = 1 for this class, and has big time speed.

 

[Gatorhater]

I'm not even talking about Bama. I mean, where's Auburn? Louisville? Kentucky? Indiana? I mean, I'm seeing UCF, Akron, FIU, and Bowling Green as offers. Just doesn't compute.

I don’t know crap about this kid, but the only undefeated major team in the country offers and the God recruiting does too and those offers don’t count? If he is 4.3 and over 6’ I have no problem taking him. Do we have any 4.3 guys on the team?

Pointing out UCF & FIU as his big offers does not bode well for your argument. He is a MAC/Conference USA caliber recruit. Why try to spin it? Losing the #1 CB (that should be a lock) & signing a Plan C kid is a big deal. It's why we have been mediocre for so long.. That won't change signing projects.

I didn't point it out, other posters made an issue of it. My point is UCF went undefeated -- who else did? And Butch offered the kid. Like Butch or not, one name is enough to make anyone pay attention to a kid he offers that other don't -- Ed Reed. And I think he was the Dline coach and recruiting co-coordinator who offered a kid in Chicago flipping burgers named Russell Maryland. Just saying he might be worth the shot since our bigger targets got away. At least he is getting his shot because he has SPEED not weight.

 

[dycane]

I watched two NW games this year, including the last, and didn’t see him make a single play.

 

[Jassid82]

Would love to get Liberty City El's perspective on this. Ill run with whatever he says but if we are taking flyers..this is the type of kid you do it for.

People act like Bama, OSU, and UGAs of the world only take 4-5* kids every year. I remember Bama came down here and took a lowly 3* kid from Boyd Anderson who played WR and not many people had heard of him except local guys in the know. Kid turned out to be a superstar and starts for the Bears right now. Eddie Jackson.

Even Saban will take a flyer in his class from time to time..its low risk-high reward. And if they dont pan out, you drop them. Whats so hard about this to understand for some of you?

 

[Dwinstitles]

Would love to get Liberty City El's perspective on this. Ill run with whatever he says but if we are taking flyers..this is the type of kid you do it for.

People act like Bama, OSU, and UGAs of the world only take 4-5* kids every year. I remember Bama came down here and took a lowly 3* kid from Boyd Anderson who played WR and not many people had heard of him except local guys in the know. Kid turned out to be a superstar and starts for the Bears right now. Eddie Jackson.

Even Saban will take a flyer in his class from time to time..its low risk-high reward. And if they dont pan out, you drop them. Whats so hard about this to understand for some of you?

He wouldnt take a flyer on tbis kid thats for sure. A couple of months ago gator fans were saying hes a randy special...do not want.

 

[kryptonite]

I see the argument "save the scholarship for a 2019 db" being thrown around a lot. Are we in a position we need to save scholarships? I say take him, he is athletic and fast with upside and can contribute on special teams. Plus he goes to a pipeline school. Who knows could help with Sam Brooks

Every scholarship we don't spend this cycle we can use on an EE in the next cycle.

Is what people say every year and it's part of why we never get to 85. This isn't a bad offer, people are just disappointed we didn't get plan A.