NCAA wrote letter to judge to get Shapiro lighter sentence

I hope these reporters keep digging. There is more out there if they do.

How the ***** does this not come up in the investigation? Imagine what else they missed. If this didnt **** me off so badly I would be laughing my *** off

KP, I don't think it's the reporters necessarily finding this info. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Don Donna's squad is digging like Agamemnon Busmalis on this case. Don Donna is finding all the **** she can find and putting it out there to be disseminated.
 
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I agree the NCAA does nothing but punch themselves in the balls and shovel ***** into their mouths, but how does this specific revelation help us more?

Dycane said it best...

"With the spotlight on, no way Enforcement can rely on anything Shapiro says without REAL independent corroboration. The NCAA -- long before it could evaluate and confirm Shapiro's veracity -- went to bat for him in federal court at his sentencing hearing. It follows that Nevin had all the motivation in the world to trump up allegations as quid pro quo for the NCAA's help in reducing his sentence."

To rational people this makes sense, especially to us as UM fans. To the NCAA, they could care less because they don't answer to anyone but themselves. Oversight is required, that should be clear to everyone, but how long before that happens? Soon enough to save the program?

In the mean time I'll take all the negative press against the NCAA I can get, but we need the killing blow. This is just another feather in our cap of hate for them, which we have plenty of.

Many fights are won as a result of an accumulation of punches and not necessarily one big blow. That's what is happening here. We are working the body, and the ncaa is about to say "no mas" and refuse to get off the stool.
 
I hope these reporters keep digging. There is more out there if they do.

How the ***** does this not come up in the investigation? Imagine what else they missed. If this didnt **** me off so badly I would be laughing my *** off

KP, I don't think it's the reporters necessarily finding this info. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Don Donna's squad is digging like Agamemnon Busmalis on this case. Don Donna is finding all the **** she can find and putting it out there to be disseminated.

Watch out for the pipe.
 
I agree the NCAA does nothing but punch themselves in the balls and shovel ***** into their mouths, but how does this specific revelation help us more?

Dycane said it best...

"With the spotlight on, no way Enforcement can rely on anything Shapiro says without REAL independent corroboration. The NCAA -- long before it could evaluate and confirm Shapiro's veracity -- went to bat for him in federal court at his sentencing hearing. It follows that Nevin had all the motivation in the world to trump up allegations as quid pro quo for the NCAA's help in reducing his sentence."

To rational people this makes sense, especially to us as UM fans. To the NCAA, they could care less because they don't answer to anyone but themselves. Oversight is required, that should be clear to everyone, but how long before that happens? Soon enough to save the program?

In the mean time I'll take all the negative press against the NCAA I can get, but we need the killing blow. This is just another feather in our cap of hate for them, which we have plenty of.

Many fights are won as a result of an accumulation of punches and not necessarily one big blow. That's what is happening here. We are working the body, and the ncaa is about to say "no mas" and refuse to get off the stool.

I'd like to get one good kidney punch in on the way out.
 
I hope they keep it up then, between now and June. Keep throwing jabs into the kidneys until they leak blood from every *******. I hate them more than anything ever before. We just want it to end soon so more damage isn't done to the program.
 
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Donna knows she has to be patient and wait for the right times to take strategic shots. You can't just blow your load all at once in this type of deal. It's unfortunate that it has to drag out, but it's the smart thing to do.


Like Al Golden says, it's a process.
 
the millisecond the ncaa throws the towel but before it lands we throw a right hook into their nads

this way we can say the bell hadn't rung yet as they take the ncaa's convulsing body to the closest ER
 
We need to tell them that if they give us time served we'll let it go. Then, after they drop our case, be like, just kidding, we're still going to take you down anyways.
 
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Donna knows she has to be patient and wait for the right times to take strategic shots. You can't just blow your load all at once in this type of deal. It's unfortunate that it has to drag out, but it's the smart thing to do.


Like Al Golden says, it's a process.

Agreed. The media had cooled on this for the last 10-14 days, and now all of a sudden, this. If info hits the news every 2-3 days there will be no bullets left in the gun for an extended time prior to this summer.

Slow and steady hits to the body right up until we go in front of the COI will be the most effective way to manage this in the media.
 
LOL... I think its time for NCAA and Emmert time to cut their losses.. and just say time served... and move on before anything - AND SOMETHING WILL - drop that makes them look even worse, if possible in this case.

Whomever the PR person for the NCAA is asleep on the job .. god ****.

Anyway I predict that they probably don't want to upstage their BB tourney - but I bet you after the tourney is over. you will hear about a settlement.

JC

:ohlord:...NCAA is really incompetent
 
Just turned it on but Bilas is on SVP and will be on SportsCenter at 2:15. I think he's almost done on SVP but he was roasting the NCAA. It should be on their podcast later.
 
We need to tell them that if they give us time served we'll let it go. Then, after they drop our case, be like, just kidding, we're still going to take you down anyways.

+1

That's exactly what I was thinking. Let them drop the punishment then sue the fock out them. Miami cooperated fully and the NCAA was stabbing the University in the back the whole time using the words of a convicted felon conman. I would be just as ruthless if I was Donna.
 
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Just turned it on but Bilas is on SVP and will be on SportsCenter at 2:15. I think he's almost done on SVP but he was roasting the NCAA. It should be on their podcast later.

Can you post a summary of what he said? I only caught the part on Cowherd where he was talking about his new book
 
I don't understand how anyone looking at this objectively does not realize that the NCAA was just as guilty as any of our players or coaches. Guilty of buying into whatever Nevin Shapiro was selling. This guy is clearly a gifted liar, and the only reasonable conclusion given all the information is that this guy should NEVER be trusted. He corrupts and bends everything he touches to his own benefit and agenda.
 
I hope these reporters keep digging. There is more out there if they do.

How the ***** does this not come up in the investigation? Imagine what else they missed. If this didnt **** me off so badly I would be laughing my *** off

KP, I don't think it's the reporters necessarily finding this info. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Don Donna's squad is digging like Agamemnon Busmalis on this case. Don Donna is finding all the **** she can find and putting it out there to be disseminated.


Actually, from a PR standpoint (and while reporters will keep on digging) what will be worse for the NCAA is for a ponzi-fraud victim to come forward to criticise the NCAA not for the matters under investigation, no bias from the victim here, but rather for what the NCAA did with and for a criminal, who defrauded innocent victims:

first, and under what right, did the NCAA intervene in Shapiro's sentenc ing in a manner calculated to get him less prison time. If I were one of those victims i'd be furious. Let him rot in prison, for as long as possible, for stealing from me and my family. Why did they intervene? Really none of the NCAA's business. The NCAA traded a "favor", to secure a lighter sentence for Shapiro, to get something from him, something that was completely outside the scope of Shapiro's crime and the completely outside the scope of his personal responsibility for that crime. What right did they have to do this?

Second, the NCAA caused needless litigation in a bankruptcy proceeding, a proceeding designed in part to recover money for victims defrauded by Shapiro. That needless litigation is paid for our of the bankruptcy estate, the very money that victims should get back.What right did the NCAA have to intervene in this matter? The move had nothing to do with concern or respect for the victim/creditors, the court or justice, the move was in total derrogation of proper process and remedies.

Third, the NCAA gave Shapiro financial support (money) commisary deposits, a burn phone, and paid Shapiro's lawyer ostensibly (but not really) for Shapiro's legal benefit. If I'm a victim I'm asking did the NCAA tell the bankruptcy judge that Shapiro was to be given funds? Should those monies have gone to repay victims?

A fraud/victim's criticism of the NCAA along these lines is unassailable and indefensible from a PR standpoint for the NCAA. The criticiscm from this source would have nothing, nothing to do with the facts of the investigation. I only highlights the NCAA's improper conduct and disregard for the victims of crime!

ALL this by the NCAA to buy testimony! Improper conduct for an improper reason.

drip, drip, drip.... If the ncaa had brain one it would settle this thing
 
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let the ncaa just keep on messing up--those are the body blows. when donna meets the committee than u will see the knockout by the shorty--dont feed this one past 10 she is feisty
 
How is this not worse than an NCAA investigator's boyfriend admitting that Shabazz Muhammad was going down?

In June of 2011 the NCAA Enforcement Staff already decided that Shapiro was so helpful, truthful and trustworthy with regards to the Miami investigation that he was a great candidate to be a consultant for them. 2 years before the investigation was concluded!

This is utterly ridiculous.
 
I hope these reporters keep digging. There is more out there if they do.

How the ***** does this not come up in the investigation? Imagine what else they missed. If this didnt **** me off so badly I would be laughing my *** off

KP, I don't think it's the reporters necessarily finding this info. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Don Donna's squad is digging like Agamemnon Busmalis on this case. Don Donna is finding all the **** she can find and putting it out there to be disseminated.

A lot of this info is coming from Sean Allen and/or the Bar proceedings.
 
How is this not worse than an NCAA investigator's boyfriend admitting that Shabazz Muhammad was going down?

In June of 2011 the NCAA Enforcement Staff already decided that Shapiro was so helpful, truthful and trustworthy with regards to the Miami investigation that he was a great candidate to be a consultant for them. 2 years before the investigation was concluded!

This is utterly ridiculous.


If the NCAA told the sentencing court it was willing to give NS a job, you know they told NS too. How this is not buying his testimony is beyond me.
 
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