Miami's DT recruits since Shannon's first year.

And i love how all of a sudden Porter, Robinson and Pierre are complete JAGs. Nobody was calling them JAGs before this season.

They were JAGs except Pierre. Porter turned into Vince Wilfork because he is big and he misses every game because he is hurt. **** Gionni Paul was a beast down here now according to poster when in reality he was below average. BTW I'm not a guy that called Al Golden "The Don".

Porter and Robinson were never JAGs, especially not on this site. They were decent players, particularly Porter. That dude would manhandle O-linemen when he was allowed to fire off the ball.
 
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Funny thing about the 1-gap vs. 2-gap thing.

Go watch the 4th & 1 play where Duke scored on that 33 yard run. We're playing 1-gap and somebody (I think Porter) blew an Offensive Linemen all the way into the backfield on the right side.
 
And i love how all of a sudden Porter, Robinson and Pierre are complete JAGs. Nobody was calling them JAGs before this season.

They were JAGs except Pierre. Porter turned into Vince Wilfork because he is big and he misses every game because he is hurt. **** Gionni Paul was a beast down here now according to poster when in reality he was below average. BTW I'm not a guy that called Al Golden "The Don".

Porter and Robinson were never JAGs, especially not on this site. They were decent players, particularly Porter. That dude would manhandle O-linemen when he was allowed to fire off the ball.

Porter's a bad dude with tremendous quickness. His first step is lightning. He has tremendous potential. He looks like **** now just like everyone else on the defense does.
 
And i love how all of a sudden Porter, Robinson and Pierre are complete JAGs. Nobody was calling them JAGs before this season.

They were JAGs except Pierre. Porter turned into Vince Wilfork because he is big and he misses every game because he is hurt. **** Gionni Paul was a beast down here now according to poster when in reality he was below average. BTW I'm not a guy that called Al Golden "The Don".

Porter and Robinson were never JAGs, especially not on this site. They were decent players, particularly Porter. That dude would manhandle O-linemen when he was allowed to fire off the ball.

Most of our players on our team were really really good at one time. Most have been over hyped.
 
Im Hurt Dawg, did you really compare Chick to Deion Sanders Jr and Justin Combs athletically?????? I mean, really??? Dude was a beast and still can be one if he was developed right and put in a position to succeed.

And Curtis Porter will be the "Antonio Dixon" of this class. You will look up and out of nowhere he will be starting for some NFL team at DT. We totally wasted him this year. Phuckin shame. Robinson too. He will be on someones practice squad and earn a living.
 
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Im Hurt Dawg, did you really compare Chick to Deion Sanders Jr and Justin Combs athletically?????? I mean, really??? Dude was a beast and still can be one if he was developed right and put in a position to succeed.

And Curtis Porter will be the "Antonio Dixon" of this class. You will look up and out of nowhere he will be starting for some NFL team at DT. We totally wasted him this year. Phuckin shame. Robinson too. He will be on someones practice squad and earn a living.

No some idiot said that the only reason Chick was a 5 star was because of his last name. When actual kids with big time last names like Deion and Ray's kid were 2/3 stars.
 
And i love how all of a sudden Porter, Robinson and Pierre are complete JAGs. Nobody was calling them JAGs before this season.

I called them JAGS except Pierre.

Cornelius turned the corner a couple weeks now he is JAG.Duke and Gus were better than Gurley. Morris was almost or just as good as Jameis. Remember we were going to expose Jameis "he never seen a defense this good" "Clemson were frauds".
 
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No defensive tackles, no defense and easy to see why teams are running down our throats. We have zero DTs.

2014 First good year recruiting DTs since 2008

JC *** Dalvon Stuckey (Pearl River)Poplarville, MS 6-3/325 Soft Verbal
16 **** Anthony Moten (St. Thomas Aquinas HS)Fort Lauderdale, FL 6-4/292/5.17
JC *** Michael Wyche (East Los Angeles)Monterey Park, CA 6-4/310
12 **** Travonte Valentine (Champagnat Cath Of Hialeah)Hialeah, FL 6-4/295


2013 Negative recruiting by other schools and UM facing sanctions

JC ** Ufomba Kamalu (Butler County (KS))El Dorado, KS 6-6/280

2012 Golden’s first full recruiting year with Negative recruiting and sanctions looming.

67 *** Dequan Ivery (Columbia HS - South)Lake City, FL 6-1/310
49 *** Jacoby Briscoe (Carencro HS)Lafayette, LA 6-4/310
56 *** Earl Moore (Hillsborough Senior HS)Tampa, FL 6-2/280/4.85

2011 Shannon’s last year after getting fired at end of season with other DTs committed to other schools so Golden had no chance. Grimble never panned out.

NR ** Junior Alexis(Crenshaw Senior HS)Los Angeles, CA 6-3/255
JC NR Darius Smith(Lackawanna)Scranton, PA 6-3/345
NR NR Corey King(West Boca Raton HS)Boca Raton, FL 6-1/265
7 ***** Jalen Grimble(Bishop Gorman HS)Las Vegas, NV 6-3.5/255/4.80

2010 Shannon's 3rd year, a zero year because both never played.

74 *** Jeffrey Brown Evanston IL.
96 ** Delmar Taylor Miami Beach.

2009 Shannon’s 2nd year. Curtis Porter is still playing and the 60th DT that year.

39 *** Luther Robinson(Fort Pierce Westwood HS)Fort Pierce, FL 6-2/270/5.00
60 *** Curtis Porter(Victory Christian Center Sch.)Charlotte, NC 6-2/330

2008 Shannon’s 1st year Forston never lived up to his billing and left early leaving Golden without any real DTs his second year.

27 *** Jeremy Lewis(Palm Beach Lakes HS)West Palm Beach, FL 6-3/275/5.00
1 ***** Marcus Forston(Miami Northwestern HS)Miami, FL 6-2.5/305/4.90
31 *** Micanor Regis(Pahokee HS)Pahokee, FL 6-3/310/5.19

Hard to recruit studs at any position when everyone but UM coaches are whispering "death penalty" in your ear.
Now that the NCAA mess is cleared up we are seeing a top recruiting class with old school Cane talent across the board.

I didn't want to believe that we were a couple recruiting classes behind but after watching our up the middle weaknesses exploited 3 weeks in a row, it's apparent that we are truly still in a rebuilding mode.

Could be worse. At least we know why we are having issues, and also that those issues are over.
Our future looks primed for success.

We are not The gators, whose only reason for an implosion is that they suck ****.
 
And i love how all of a sudden Porter, Robinson and Pierre are complete JAGs. Nobody was calling them JAGs before this season.

I called them JAGS except Pierre.

Cornelius turned the corner a couple weeks now he is JAG.Duke and Gus were better than Gurley. Morris was almost or just as good as Jameis. Remember we were going to expose Jameis "he never seen a defense this good" "Clemson were frauds".


I actually did not elieve in the team they surprised me with 7-0, I though Duke could not carry the load and I was right. The Alex Collins miss was huge and I knew how huge it was biggest miss last cycle. I knew Jamies was a beast because reports were he was at spring (why the fk would anyone lie?), he was a 5 star for a reason. Never believed in Morris or this DL still, Bostwick and Bryant were epic failures and pushed our program back 1 season IMO.
 
**** out of here with that neagative recruiting ****. I'm sure it was a issue but to a certain extent.

He is still going to have to deal with negative recruiting. You don't think fsu & uf telling d-tackles that jethro can't coach or d'onofrio scheme is ****?

its not as bad as "they are getting the death penalty or you will never play in a bowl there"
 
Funny thing about the 1-gap vs. 2-gap thing.

Go watch the 4th & 1 play where Duke scored on that 33 yard run. We're playing 1-gap and somebody (I think Porter) blew an Offensive Linemen all the way into the backfield on the right side.

So all the talk about 1-2 gap, and we 1 gap and they run for 33. Could this be what the coaches see. This is why I say more players than coaches, but it is a tight race.
 
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We're supposed to believe that Robinson, Porter, Pierre and Chickillo are complete JAGs?

Did they not have decent offers coming out of high school? Did they ALL not look better earlier in their career here?

Chickillo isn't a bad football player but he has a ceiling. Plus I've seen him take a lot of double teams this year so he is an asset out there in spite of his stats.

Porter is not the same guy he was in high school because, like Sharon green, injuries take a toll unfortunately. My hats off to the kid for finishing out a season though and I wish him the best in the future.

Robinson just isn't very talented

Pierre might still make something of himself. He came in undersized and had to play a year too earlyn(should be a rs sophomore) so I still think he will be alright
 
We're supposed to believe that Robinson, Porter, Pierre and Chickillo are complete JAGs?

Did they not have decent offers coming out of high school? Did they ALL not look better earlier in their career here?

Chickillo isn't a bad football player but he has a ceiling. Plus I've seen him take a lot of double teams this year so he is an asset out there in spite of his stats.

Porter is not the same guy he was in high school because, like Sharon green, injuries take a toll unfortunately. My hats off to the kid for finishing out a season though and I wish him the best in the future.

Robinson just isn't very talented

Pierre might still make something of himself. He came in undersized and had to play a year too earlyn(should be a rs sophomore) so I still think he will be alright

They have all flashed at times. But seem to dissapear most of the time,but maybe they are doing their job. Not to nit pick but I don't think Robinson and piere had any big offer but ours. Which I could care less.
 
We're supposed to believe that Robinson, Porter, Pierre and Chickillo are complete JAGs?

Did they not have decent offers coming out of high school? Did they ALL not look better earlier in their career here?

Chickillo isn't a bad football player but he has a ceiling. Plus I've seen him take a lot of double teams this year so he is an asset out there in spite of his stats.

Porter is not the same guy he was in high school because, like Sharon green, injuries take a toll unfortunately. My hats off to the kid for finishing out a season though and I wish him the best in the future.

Robinson just isn't very talented

Pierre might still make something of himself. He came in undersized and had to play a year too earlyn(should be a rs sophomore) so I still think he will be alright

They have all flashed at times. But seem to dissapear most of the time,but maybe they are doing their job. Not to nit pick but I don't think Robinson and piere had any big offer but ours. Which I could care less.

Depth has a lot to do with that
 
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We're supposed to believe that Robinson, Porter, Pierre and Chickillo are complete JAGs?

Did they not have decent offers coming out of high school? Did they ALL not look better earlier in their career here?

Chickillo isn't a bad football player but he has a ceiling. Plus I've seen him take a lot of double teams this year so he is an asset out there in spite of his stats.

Porter is not the same guy he was in high school because, like Sharon green, injuries take a toll unfortunately. My hats off to the kid for finishing out a season though and I wish him the best in the future.

Robinson just isn't very talented

Pierre might still make something of himself. He came in undersized and had to play a year too earlyn(should be a rs sophomore) so I still think he will be alright

Porter's injuries were an infection to his finger that got complicated, an appendectomy, and a knee injury. Of those, the only one of significance to his playing ability was his knee, and he had a full recovery from that. His situation is nothing like Green's.
 
No defensive tackles, no defense and easy to see why teams are running down our throats. We have zero DTs.

2014 First good year recruiting DTs since 2008

JC *** Dalvon Stuckey (Pearl River)Poplarville, MS 6-3/325 Soft Verbal
16 **** Anthony Moten (St. Thomas Aquinas HS)Fort Lauderdale, FL 6-4/292/5.17
JC *** Michael Wyche (East Los Angeles)Monterey Park, CA 6-4/310
12 **** Travonte Valentine (Champagnat Cath Of Hialeah)Hialeah, FL 6-4/295


2013 Negative recruiting by other schools and UM facing sanctions

JC ** Ufomba Kamalu (Butler County (KS))El Dorado, KS 6-6/280

2012 Golden’s first full recruiting year with Negative recruiting and sanctions looming.

67 *** Dequan Ivery (Columbia HS - South)Lake City, FL 6-1/310
49 *** Jacoby Briscoe (Carencro HS)Lafayette, LA 6-4/310
56 *** Earl Moore (Hillsborough Senior HS)Tampa, FL 6-2/280/4.85

2011 Shannon’s last year after getting fired at end of season with other DTs committed to other schools so Golden had no chance. Grimble never panned out.

NR ** Junior Alexis(Crenshaw Senior HS)Los Angeles, CA 6-3/255
JC NR Darius Smith(Lackawanna)Scranton, PA 6-3/345
NR NR Corey King(West Boca Raton HS)Boca Raton, FL 6-1/265
7 ***** Jalen Grimble(Bishop Gorman HS)Las Vegas, NV 6-3.5/255/4.80

2010 Shannon's 3rd year, a zero year because both never played.

74 *** Jeffrey Brown Evanston IL.
96 ** Delmar Taylor Miami Beach.

2009 Shannon’s 2nd year. Curtis Porter is still playing and the 60th DT that year.

39 *** Luther Robinson(Fort Pierce Westwood HS)Fort Pierce, FL 6-2/270/5.00
60 *** Curtis Porter(Victory Christian Center Sch.)Charlotte, NC 6-2/330

2008 Shannon’s 1st year Forston never lived up to his billing and left early leaving Golden without any real DTs his second year.

27 *** Jeremy Lewis(Palm Beach Lakes HS)West Palm Beach, FL 6-3/275/5.00
1 ***** Marcus Forston(Miami Northwestern HS)Miami, FL 6-2.5/305/4.90
31 *** Micanor Regis(Pahokee HS)Pahokee, FL 6-3/310/5.19

Hard to recruit studs at any position when everyone but UM coaches are whispering "death penalty" in your ear.
Now that the NCAA mess is cleared up we are seeing a top recruiting class with old school Cane talent across the board.

I didn't want to believe that we were a couple recruiting classes behind but after watching our up the middle weaknesses exploited 3 weeks in a row, it's apparent that we are truly still in a rebuilding mode.

Could be worse. At least we know why we are having issues, and also that those issues are over.
Our future looks primed for success.

We are not The gators, whose only reason for an implosion is that they suck ****.

All good defenses start with great DTs. If you can not stop the run or the pass you are fucckked. 101 Two years in a row with out DTs really hurts. Then only a couple of ok DTs from a few years before that. We are looking at it now. Can not get around it. No way. Porter was banged up most of his time playing. Wonder how much scar tissue he has in him.
 
We're supposed to believe that Robinson, Porter, Pierre and Chickillo are complete JAGs?

Did they not have decent offers coming out of high school? Did they ALL not look better earlier in their career here?

Chickillo isn't a bad football player but he has a ceiling. Plus I've seen him take a lot of double teams this year so he is an asset out there in spite of his stats.

Porter is not the same guy he was in high school because, like Sharon green, injuries take a toll unfortunately. My hats off to the kid for finishing out a season though and I wish him the best in the future.

Robinson just isn't very talented

Pierre might still make something of himself. He came in undersized and had to play a year too earlyn(should be a rs sophomore) so I still think he will be alright

Porter's injuries were an infection to his finger that got complicated, an appendectomy, and a knee injury. Of those, the only one of significance to his playing ability was his knee, and he had a full recovery from that. His situation is nothing like Green's.


They never tell you the full extent of someone's injuries for a lot of reasons. First so they don't get targeted. Second so it won't affect their draft status. Third because it's nobody's business and they're not legally required to disclose medical stuff

You really think porter missed a whole season for a finger?? **** I've seen people play with metal rods surgically running thru their hand bones.

That's like saying Morris has a bruise. Yeah sure. That's why he is still limping around over a month later. A bruise.

Take all that w a grain of salt. Porter has not played much because he has been banged up.
 
We're supposed to believe that Robinson, Porter, Pierre and Chickillo are complete JAGs?

Did they not have decent offers coming out of high school? Did they ALL not look better earlier in their career here?

Chickillo isn't a bad football player but he has a ceiling. Plus I've seen him take a lot of double teams this year so he is an asset out there in spite of his stats.

Porter is not the same guy he was in high school because, like Sharon green, injuries take a toll unfortunately. My hats off to the kid for finishing out a season though and I wish him the best in the future.

Robinson just isn't very talented

Pierre might still make something of himself. He came in undersized and had to play a year too earlyn(should be a rs sophomore) so I still think he will be alright

Porter's injuries were an infection to his finger that got complicated, an appendectomy, and a knee injury. Of those, the only one of significance to his playing ability was his knee, and he had a full recovery from that. His situation is nothing like Green's.


They never tell you the full extent of someone's injuries for a lot of reasons. First so they don't get targeted. Second so it won't affect their draft status. Third because it's nobody's business and they're not legally required to disclose medical stuff

You really think porter missed a whole season for a finger?? **** I've seen people play with metal rods surgically running thru their hand bones.

That's like saying Morris has a bruise. Yeah sure. That's why he is still limping around over a month later. A bruise.

Take all that w a grain of salt. Porter has not played much because he has been banged up.

He had a finger injury that turned into an infection that got bad. You can either accept the truth, or dig your heels in on your original point like everyone else. His situation is nothing like Green's.
 
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