Miami vs NCAA Hearings Day 2

Swofford stepping up like a boss. I'm glad he's repeating over and over what a huge sanction the interminable length of the fake corrupt investigation has been. No one has really talked about that, but it's been killing The Don on the recruiting trail. Can't wait to see The Don recruit without this corrupt fake **** tying both hands behind his back.
 
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The other day the consensus here seemed to be that if the F.B.I. couldn't build a case against Shapiro then no one else could be expected to see him for who he was. After thinking about it I disagree. Maybe it's a Miami thing and I wouldn't understand but he seems the portrait of a scumbag. It's one thing to need time to build a criminal case, but another entirely to not realize this guy was a major violation waiting to happen.

Hindsight is 20/20. The dude bilked a bunch of professionals, including cops and well-heeled businessmen, out of a billion dollars. Obviously, from that very basic bit of evidence, he was very good at conning people and keeping his identity as a scumbag under wraps. Do you think so many people would trust someone that was so easily known as a scumbag and thief with their life savings?

It's easy NOW to see that he's a piece of ****; it very clearly wasn't all that easy for the people he bilked out of a billion clams to see that he was a dirtbag.

I do see your point, but you may be giving people too much credit. I'm sure he's a talented con man, but the only reason anyone gets ponzi'd is greed and laziness. Anyone with so much as a rudimentary understanding of equity markets and the common sense nature gave a dog would want to perform due diligence before making an investment. Due diligence is how these guys end up getting caught, because it isn't rocket science but someone does have to care enough to look and know enough to understand. And anyway, just look at him.

You're obviously way smarter than all the people he and Madoff and others like them bilked. I doubt that they presented themselves as Ponzi schemers when they bilked their investors, but you're smart enough to see through all that just by looking at the bilkers, and I congratulate you on that.

Lulz!! Seriously...this dude acts like if some of these brilliant business men would've sifted thru a couple of files or made an extra phone call or two it would've saved them millions, but they were just a tad too lazy.

Gimme a **** break...


What? How hard is it to ask "How are you making these amazing profits?" If he says "It's my special secret method" and you still invest, that's lazy. If he says "I did it trading oil futures, here a statement from my FX broker." and you invest without talking to someone at the brokerage who handles his account, that's lazy. If it was your money would you just write a check?
 
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Any body language experts in the house:

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Early finish, Golden leaving like he was shot out of a cannon, Shalala in total silence.

[John Madden Analysis]

This is either really good, or really bad

[/John Madden Analysis]

I'm gonna go with "really bad."

I think basketball gets off, but football gets nailed pretty hard.
 
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Hindsight is 20/20. The dude bilked a bunch of professionals, including cops and well-heeled businessmen, out of a billion dollars. Obviously, from that very basic bit of evidence, he was very good at conning people and keeping his identity as a scumbag under wraps. Do you think so many people would trust someone that was so easily known as a scumbag and thief with their life savings?

It's easy NOW to see that he's a piece of ****; it very clearly wasn't all that easy for the people he bilked out of a billion clams to see that he was a dirtbag.

I do see your point, but you may be giving people too much credit. I'm sure he's a talented con man, but the only reason anyone gets ponzi'd is greed and laziness. Anyone with so much as a rudimentary understanding of equity markets and the common sense nature gave a dog would want to perform due diligence before making an investment. Due diligence is how these guys end up getting caught, because it isn't rocket science but someone does have to care enough to look and know enough to understand. And anyway, just look at him.

You're obviously way smarter than all the people he and Madoff and others like them bilked. I doubt that they presented themselves as Ponzi schemers when they bilked their investors, but you're smart enough to see through all that just by looking at the bilkers, and I congratulate you on that.

Lulz!! Seriously...this dude acts like if some of these brilliant business men would've sifted thru a couple of files or made an extra phone call or two it would've saved them millions, but they were just a tad too lazy.

Gimme a **** break...


What? How hard is it to ask "How are you making these amazing profits?" If he says "It's my special secret method" and you still invest, that's lazy. If he says "I did it trading oil futures, here a statement from my FX broker." and you invest without talking to someone at the brokerage who handles his account, that's lazy. If it was your money would you just write a check?

Have you looked into these Ponzi schemes and seen how they operate? They start you with smaller investments, and show you solid return on them until they reel you in. You receive nice checks for a while...it actually seems very legit. Its not until you get in deep and are hooked with good return until the checks stop coming. Hindsight is 20/20 in your eyes here homey. You have no idea. A lot of very very intelligent people have been duped in these schemes.
 
There's two big JUCOs on their OV this weekend.

I'm guessing Golden was in a hurry for them.
 
I do see your point, but you may be giving people too much credit. I'm sure he's a talented con man, but the only reason anyone gets ponzi'd is greed and laziness. Anyone with so much as a rudimentary understanding of equity markets and the common sense nature gave a dog would want to perform due diligence before making an investment. Due diligence is how these guys end up getting caught, because it isn't rocket science but someone does have to care enough to look and know enough to understand. And anyway, just look at him.

You're obviously way smarter than all the people he and Madoff and others like them bilked. I doubt that they presented themselves as Ponzi schemers when they bilked their investors, but you're smart enough to see through all that just by looking at the bilkers, and I congratulate you on that.

Lulz!! Seriously...this dude acts like if some of these brilliant business men would've sifted thru a couple of files or made an extra phone call or two it would've saved them millions, but they were just a tad too lazy.

Gimme a **** break...


What? How hard is it to ask "How are you making these amazing profits?" If he says "It's my special secret method" and you still invest, that's lazy. If he says "I did it trading oil futures, here a statement from my FX broker." and you invest without talking to someone at the brokerage who handles his account, that's lazy. If it was your money would you just write a check?

Have you looked into these Ponzi schemes and seen how they operate? They start you with smaller investments, and show you solid return on them until they reel you in. You receive nice checks for a while...it actually seems very legit. Its not until you get in deep and are hooked with good return until the checks stop coming. Hindsight is 20/20 in your eyes here homey. You have no idea. A lot of very very intelligent people have been duped in these schemes.

He was also doctoring financial documents.
 
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I do see your point, but you may be giving people too much credit. I'm sure he's a talented con man, but the only reason anyone gets ponzi'd is greed and laziness. Anyone with so much as a rudimentary understanding of equity markets and the common sense nature gave a dog would want to perform due diligence before making an investment. Due diligence is how these guys end up getting caught, because it isn't rocket science but someone does have to care enough to look and know enough to understand. And anyway, just look at him.

You're obviously way smarter than all the people he and Madoff and others like them bilked. I doubt that they presented themselves as Ponzi schemers when they bilked their investors, but you're smart enough to see through all that just by looking at the bilkers, and I congratulate you on that.

Lulz!! Seriously...this dude acts like if some of these brilliant business men would've sifted thru a couple of files or made an extra phone call or two it would've saved them millions, but they were just a tad too lazy.

Gimme a **** break...


What? How hard is it to ask "How are you making these amazing profits?" If he says "It's my special secret method" and you still invest, that's lazy. If he says "I did it trading oil futures, here a statement from my FX broker." and you invest without talking to someone at the brokerage who handles his account, that's lazy. If it was your money would you just write a check?

Have you looked into these Ponzi schemes and seen how they operate? They start you with smaller investments, and show you solid return on them until they reel you in. You receive nice checks for a while...it actually seems very legit. Its not until you get in deep and are hooked with good return until the checks stop coming. Hindsight is 20/20 in your eyes here homey. You have no idea. A lot of very very intelligent people have been duped in these schemes.

I get how they work, but they're not sophisticated is all I've been saying. Intelligent people can get duped by a scheme like this, but it's because the greed gets in the way of their intelligence. You have to admit, nobody with any "street smarts" would fall for this.
 
I would suspect that by over the weekend by Monday some information will leak out and we'll have a better indication what happened and where we're headed.
 
You're obviously way smarter than all the people he and Madoff and others like them bilked. I doubt that they presented themselves as Ponzi schemers when they bilked their investors, but you're smart enough to see through all that just by looking at the bilkers, and I congratulate you on that.

Lulz!! Seriously...this dude acts like if some of these brilliant business men would've sifted thru a couple of files or made an extra phone call or two it would've saved them millions, but they were just a tad too lazy.

Gimme a **** break...


What? How hard is it to ask "How are you making these amazing profits?" If he says "It's my special secret method" and you still invest, that's lazy. If he says "I did it trading oil futures, here a statement from my FX broker." and you invest without talking to someone at the brokerage who handles his account, that's lazy. If it was your money would you just write a check?

Have you looked into these Ponzi schemes and seen how they operate? They start you with smaller investments, and show you solid return on them until they reel you in. You receive nice checks for a while...it actually seems very legit. Its not until you get in deep and are hooked with good return until the checks stop coming. Hindsight is 20/20 in your eyes here homey. You have no idea. A lot of very very intelligent people have been duped in these schemes.

I get how they work, but they're not sophisticated is all I've been saying. Intelligent people can get duped by a scheme like this, but it's because the greed gets in the way of their intelligence. You have to admit, nobody with any "street smarts" would fall for this.

Not true at all.......
You could fall for it regardless, you really don't get much of an inkling of something shady going on til after they already got your money. You could have gotten a referral from someone you trusted and never fully did as much research as you would have liked after the thought.
 
Lulz!! Seriously...this dude acts like if some of these brilliant business men would've sifted thru a couple of files or made an extra phone call or two it would've saved them millions, but they were just a tad too lazy.

Gimme a **** break...


What? How hard is it to ask "How are you making these amazing profits?" If he says "It's my special secret method" and you still invest, that's lazy. If he says "I did it trading oil futures, here a statement from my FX broker." and you invest without talking to someone at the brokerage who handles his account, that's lazy. If it was your money would you just write a check?

Have you looked into these Ponzi schemes and seen how they operate? They start you with smaller investments, and show you solid return on them until they reel you in. You receive nice checks for a while...it actually seems very legit. Its not until you get in deep and are hooked with good return until the checks stop coming. Hindsight is 20/20 in your eyes here homey. You have no idea. A lot of very very intelligent people have been duped in these schemes.

I get how they work, but they're not sophisticated is all I've been saying. Intelligent people can get duped by a scheme like this, but it's because the greed gets in the way of their intelligence. You have to admit, nobody with any "street smarts" would fall for this.

Not true at all.......
You could fall for it regardless, you really don't get much of an inkling of something shady going on til after they already got your money. You could have gotten a referral from someone you trusted and never fully did as much research as you would have liked after the thought.

Would you have fallen for it?
 
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