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Miami vs NCAA Hearings Day 2

We won't see the NCAA in court and LOIC isn't getting dropped. I still hope they let us off light but it's the NCAA.
 
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Bear up, gentlemen.

You gotta know that everyone's tired, but at least we can be confident that the Miami side was well prepared.

Was wondering if Shalala was limping - which could be a significant indicator that she almost broke her foot off in someone's ***.

We've already self-imposed enough.

We'll get our punishment - which will coincide with our self-impositions. This rooster hump is over.
 
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Legal guys... is it out of the question for any sort of plea deal at this stage? NCAA agrees to admitting such-and-such while we agree to accepting penalties such-and-such. NCAA saves face (or some of it) while we agree not to sue and get hit with smaller sanctions. Just thinking.
 
Boston_Cane said:
The Franchise said:
Boston_Cane said:
nadiamufdi said:
cowboycane said:
Oh, you mean Randy the ONLY guy that saw the rat for what he was?
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Yes, the guy who had nearly his entire staff and a ton of his players hanging out with the guy
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The other day the consensus here seemed to be that if the F.B.I. couldn't build a case against Shapiro then no one else could be expected to see him for who he was. After thinking about it I disagree. Maybe it's a Miami thing and I wouldn't understand but he seems the portrait of a scumbag. It's one thing to need time to build a criminal case, but another entirely to not realize this guy was a major violation waiting to happen.
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Hindsight is 20/20. The dude bilked a bunch of professionals, including cops and well-heeled businessmen, out of a billion dollars. Obviously, from that very basic bit of evidence, he was very good at conning people and keeping his identity as a scumbag under wraps. Do you think so many people would trust someone that was so easily known as a scumbag and thief with their life savings?

It's easy NOW to see that he's a piece of ****; it very clearly wasn't all that easy for the people he bilked out of a billion clams to see that he was a dirtbag.
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I do see your point, but you may be giving people too much credit. I'm sure he's a talented con man, but the only reason anyone gets ponzi'd is greed and laziness. Anyone with so much as a rudimentary understanding of equity markets and the common sense nature gave a dog would want to perform due diligence before making an investment. Due diligence is how these guys end up getting caught, because it isn't rocket science but someone does have to care enough to look and know enough to understand. And anyway, just look at him.
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Due diligence is not usually how ponzi schemers get caught. It is usually the inability to get new money to feed the scheme. If a scheme is successful, then it is performing and due diligence will yield nothing of note.
 
Boston_Cane said:
The Franchise said:
Boston_Cane said:
nadiamufdi said:
cowboycane said:
Oh, you mean Randy the ONLY guy that saw the rat for what he was?
Click to expand...

Yes, the guy who had nearly his entire staff and a ton of his players hanging out with the guy
Click to expand...

The other day the consensus here seemed to be that if the F.B.I. couldn't build a case against Shapiro then no one else could be expected to see him for who he was. After thinking about it I disagree. Maybe it's a Miami thing and I wouldn't understand but he seems the portrait of a scumbag. It's one thing to need time to build a criminal case, but another entirely to not realize this guy was a major violation waiting to happen.
Click to expand...

Hindsight is 20/20. The dude bilked a bunch of professionals, including cops and well-heeled businessmen, out of a billion dollars. Obviously, from that very basic bit of evidence, he was very good at conning people and keeping his identity as a scumbag under wraps. Do you think so many people would trust someone that was so easily known as a scumbag and thief with their life savings?

It's easy NOW to see that he's a piece of ****; it very clearly wasn't all that easy for the people he bilked out of a billion clams to see that he was a dirtbag.
Click to expand...

I do see your point, but you may be giving people too much credit. I'm sure he's a talented con man, but the only reason anyone gets ponzi'd is greed and laziness. Anyone with so much as a rudimentary understanding of equity markets and the common sense nature gave a dog would want to perform due diligence before making an investment. Due diligence is how these guys end up getting caught, because it isn't rocket science but someone does have to care enough to look and know enough to understand. And anyway, just look at him.
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I disagree. Madoff left a long trail of sophisticated investors w/ huge losses.
 
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The Franchise said:
Boston_Cane said:
The Franchise said:
Boston_Cane said:
nadiamufdi said:
Yes, the guy who had nearly his entire staff and a ton of his players hanging out with the guy
Click to expand...

The other day the consensus here seemed to be that if the F.B.I. couldn't build a case against Shapiro then no one else could be expected to see him for who he was. After thinking about it I disagree. Maybe it's a Miami thing and I wouldn't understand but he seems the portrait of a scumbag. It's one thing to need time to build a criminal case, but another entirely to not realize this guy was a major violation waiting to happen.
Click to expand...

Hindsight is 20/20. The dude bilked a bunch of professionals, including cops and well-heeled businessmen, out of a billion dollars. Obviously, from that very basic bit of evidence, he was very good at conning people and keeping his identity as a scumbag under wraps. Do you think so many people would trust someone that was so easily known as a scumbag and thief with their life savings?

It's easy NOW to see that he's a piece of ****; it very clearly wasn't all that easy for the people he bilked out of a billion clams to see that he was a dirtbag.
Click to expand...

I do see your point, but you may be giving people too much credit. I'm sure he's a talented con man, but the only reason anyone gets ponzi'd is greed and laziness. Anyone with so much as a rudimentary understanding of equity markets and the common sense nature gave a dog would want to perform due diligence before making an investment. Due diligence is how these guys end up getting caught, because it isn't rocket science but someone does have to care enough to look and know enough to understand. And anyway, just look at him.
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You're obviously way smarter than all the people he and Madoff and others like them bilked. I doubt that they presented themselves as Ponzi schemers when they bilked their investors, but you're smart enough to see through all that just by looking at the bilkers, and I congratulate you on that.
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This. U beat me to it.
 
Basketball gets nothing, bc out bball program poses no threat both on the field and in recruiting.

Football, is a massive road block (when we have a good coach) for the SEC. I have zero doubt this entire process is dictated by the powers that be in the SEC.
 
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Blake James @CanesAllAccess
We are done in Indy! Thanks to Mike Glazier, UM legal counsel, President Shalala and Comm. Swofford. #IStandWithTheU!
 
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Mike Glazier may have been our saving grace. He knows how these ****sticks work better than anyone. He supplied Donna and her entourage with enough ammuntion to help get this resolved, hopefully with no new sanctions.

I am very optimistic we are gonna skate with time served. Fingerscrossed.
 
I think the fact that it ended in only two days is a good sign.

Makes it seem like there wasn't too much back and forth going on and compromises were made on both sides.
 
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