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Miami vs NCAA Hearings Day 2

The Franchise said:
Boston_Cane said:
nadiamufdi said:
cowboycane said:
HarryCarayisGoat said:
If what I'm hearing is true, then we might be able to play for a title again in 2018.


Thanks, Randy
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Oh, you mean Randy the ONLY guy that saw the rat for what he was?
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Yes, the guy who had nearly his entire staff and a ton of his players hanging out with the guy
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The other day the consensus here seemed to be that if the F.B.I. couldn't build a case against Shapiro then no one else could be expected to see him for who he was. After thinking about it I disagree. Maybe it's a Miami thing and I wouldn't understand but he seems the portrait of a scumbag. It's one thing to need time to build a criminal case, but another entirely to not realize this guy was a major violation waiting to happen.
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Hindsight is 20/20. The dude bilked a bunch of professionals, including cops and well-heeled businessmen, out of a billion dollars. Obviously, from that very basic bit of evidence, he was very good at conning people and keeping his identity as a scumbag under wraps. Do you think so many people would trust someone that was so easily known as a scumbag and thief with their life savings?

It's easy NOW to see that he's a piece of ****; it very clearly wasn't all that easy for the people he bilked out of a billion clams to see that he was a dirtbag.
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I do see your point, but you may be giving people too much credit. I'm sure he's a talented con man, but the only reason anyone gets ponzi'd is greed and laziness. Anyone with so much as a rudimentary understanding of equity markets and the common sense nature gave a dog would want to perform due diligence before making an investment. Due diligence is how these guys end up getting caught, because it isn't rocket science but someone does have to care enough to look and know enough to understand. And anyway, just look at him.
 
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Boston_Cane said:
The Franchise said:
Boston_Cane said:
nadiamufdi said:
cowboycane said:
Oh, you mean Randy the ONLY guy that saw the rat for what he was?
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Yes, the guy who had nearly his entire staff and a ton of his players hanging out with the guy
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The other day the consensus here seemed to be that if the F.B.I. couldn't build a case against Shapiro then no one else could be expected to see him for who he was. After thinking about it I disagree. Maybe it's a Miami thing and I wouldn't understand but he seems the portrait of a scumbag. It's one thing to need time to build a criminal case, but another entirely to not realize this guy was a major violation waiting to happen.
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Hindsight is 20/20. The dude bilked a bunch of professionals, including cops and well-heeled businessmen, out of a billion dollars. Obviously, from that very basic bit of evidence, he was very good at conning people and keeping his identity as a scumbag under wraps. Do you think so many people would trust someone that was so easily known as a scumbag and thief with their life savings?

It's easy NOW to see that he's a piece of ****; it very clearly wasn't all that easy for the people he bilked out of a billion clams to see that he was a dirtbag.
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I do see your point, but you may be giving people too much credit. I'm sure he's a talented con man, but the only reason anyone gets ponzi'd is greed and laziness. Anyone with so much as a rudimentary understanding of equity markets and the common sense nature gave a dog would want to perform due diligence before making an investment. Due diligence is how these guys end up getting caught, because it isn't rocket science but someone does have to care enough to look and know enough to understand. And anyway, just look at him.
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You're obviously way smarter than all the people he and Madoff and others like them bilked. I doubt that they presented themselves as Ponzi schemers when they bilked their investors, but you're smart enough to see through all that just by looking at the bilkers, and I congratulate you on that.
 
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Hmmm interesting if the COI agenda stated it would last through Saturday and that wasn't speculation on the part the media.
 
The Franchise said:
Boston_Cane said:
The Franchise said:
Boston_Cane said:
nadiamufdi said:
Yes, the guy who had nearly his entire staff and a ton of his players hanging out with the guy
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The other day the consensus here seemed to be that if the F.B.I. couldn't build a case against Shapiro then no one else could be expected to see him for who he was. After thinking about it I disagree. Maybe it's a Miami thing and I wouldn't understand but he seems the portrait of a scumbag. It's one thing to need time to build a criminal case, but another entirely to not realize this guy was a major violation waiting to happen.
Click to expand...

Hindsight is 20/20. The dude bilked a bunch of professionals, including cops and well-heeled businessmen, out of a billion dollars. Obviously, from that very basic bit of evidence, he was very good at conning people and keeping his identity as a scumbag under wraps. Do you think so many people would trust someone that was so easily known as a scumbag and thief with their life savings?

It's easy NOW to see that he's a piece of ****; it very clearly wasn't all that easy for the people he bilked out of a billion clams to see that he was a dirtbag.
Click to expand...

I do see your point, but you may be giving people too much credit. I'm sure he's a talented con man, but the only reason anyone gets ponzi'd is greed and laziness. Anyone with so much as a rudimentary understanding of equity markets and the common sense nature gave a dog would want to perform due diligence before making an investment. Due diligence is how these guys end up getting caught, because it isn't rocket science but someone does have to care enough to look and know enough to understand. And anyway, just look at him.
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You're obviously way smarter than all the people he and Madoff and others like them bilked. I doubt that they presented themselves as Ponzi schemers when they bilked their investors, but you're smart enough to see through all that just by looking at the bilkers, and I congratulate you on that.
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I didn't mean to come off as a smart ***. My point is that anyone who got burned by this guy burned themselves. That goes for the businessman who got seduced by the promise of enormous gains and the coaches who wanted to fill their recruiting classes the easy way.
 
Picksix said:
UM2020 said:
Picksix said:
Dan E. Dangerously said:
Manny Navarro @Manny_Navarro
#UM #NCAA Committee of Infractions meeting is over. #Canes heading home.
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Time served... LOIC dropped...
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Either this or we will see the NCAA in court.
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I actually hope Shalala sues their asses. Unfortunately I think the NCAA knows they're ****ed if they take her on. I would allow them to give us time served and still sue their asses and bring the NCAA down.
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I personally want the black cloud lifted. A lawsuit would allow opposing coaches that much more time to feed recruits with bull**** lies about our impending sanctions
 
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Manny Navarro @Manny_Navarro
#ACC commissioner John Swofford said there is a sense of relief for #UM this part has ended. Now, #NCAA will rule. And we wait again.
 
The Franchise said:
Boston_Cane said:
The Franchise said:
Boston_Cane said:
nadiamufdi said:
Yes, the guy who had nearly his entire staff and a ton of his players hanging out with the guy
Click to expand...

The other day the consensus here seemed to be that if the F.B.I. couldn't build a case against Shapiro then no one else could be expected to see him for who he was. After thinking about it I disagree. Maybe it's a Miami thing and I wouldn't understand but he seems the portrait of a scumbag. It's one thing to need time to build a criminal case, but another entirely to not realize this guy was a major violation waiting to happen.
Click to expand...

Hindsight is 20/20. The dude bilked a bunch of professionals, including cops and well-heeled businessmen, out of a billion dollars. Obviously, from that very basic bit of evidence, he was very good at conning people and keeping his identity as a scumbag under wraps. Do you think so many people would trust someone that was so easily known as a scumbag and thief with their life savings?

It's easy NOW to see that he's a piece of ****; it very clearly wasn't all that easy for the people he bilked out of a billion clams to see that he was a dirtbag.
Click to expand...

I do see your point, but you may be giving people too much credit. I'm sure he's a talented con man, but the only reason anyone gets ponzi'd is greed and laziness. Anyone with so much as a rudimentary understanding of equity markets and the common sense nature gave a dog would want to perform due diligence before making an investment. Due diligence is how these guys end up getting caught, because it isn't rocket science but someone does have to care enough to look and know enough to understand. And anyway, just look at him.
Click to expand...

You're obviously way smarter than all the people he and Madoff and others like them bilked. I doubt that they presented themselves as Ponzi schemers when they bilked their investors, but you're smart enough to see through all that just by looking at the bilkers, and I congratulate you on that.
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Lulz!! Seriously...this dude acts like if some of these brilliant business men would've sifted thru a couple of files or made an extra phone call or two it would've saved them millions, but they were just a tad too lazy.

Gimme a **** break...
 
The Franchise said:
LULZ at this board flipping out over a lame unsubstantiated comment by that fat piece of taco meat, WoManny, and getting all worked up over some lame jokes by some dudes trying too hard to be funny. The ncaa was tearing into UM BEFORE they even got to dealing with the institution? Yep. That makes a lot of sense.

That fat tub of goo with his constant anti-UM agenda is the LAST guy any of you dudes should be listening to. He knows less that you do about what's going on in there.

Buck up! Some of you guys must walk around scared that a dastardly coyote is going to drop an anvil on you from 30th floor window. Scary motherfvckers.
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As one of the coyote-fearers, I welcome your optimism. I guess only time will tell.
 
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The Franchise said:
LULZ at this board flipping out over a lame unsubstantiated comment by that fat piece of taco meat, WoManny, and getting all worked up over some lame jokes by some dudes trying too hard to be funny. The ncaa was tearing into UM BEFORE they even got to dealing with the institution? Yep. That makes a lot of sense.

That fat tub of goo with his constant anti-UM agenda is the LAST guy any of you dudes should be listening to. He knows less that you do about what's going on in there.

Buck up! Some of you guys must walk around scared that a dastardly coyote is going to drop an anvil on you from 30th floor window. Scary motherfvckers.
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Extremely funny
 
Manny Navarro @Manny_Navarro
#UM #NCAA infractions hearing took approximately 16 1/2 hours total

Manny Navarro @Manny_Navarro
#UM football coach Al golden was the first guy out the door when hearing ended. Like he was shot out of a cannon
 
Hold on. Is he saying that everybody is goin' home and the Hearing is over. Yesterday Haith & other former ***'ts left.
If this is true, coupled with the fact that the basketball related allegations were scheduled for tomorrow (Sat.), it may be that those allegations were dropped (or admitted to.)
 
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