Miami vs NCAA Hearings Day 1

[robertpaige]

So is nevin going to be brought up on charges of supplying alcohol to minors. Surely not all these guys were of legal age.

Lol I think Shapiro has bigger legal issues other than 48 counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor

 

[nyibis]

Enough is enough.
Just end this fiasco one way or another and put it behind us.
Promise to never make the same mistakes again.
Let our rejuvenated football and basketball programs compete on a level playing field.
I just want to wave my U flag with pride again.
GO CANES!!!!

 

[Brandonmscane]

yeah you should throw this in there. he did say it twice it must be true.

 

[BisCane]

So if Wilfork was alleged to have had received $50k, for which this is no evidence, then Rolle would be alleged to have had received $40k per the above numbers. What is up with that?

 

[BisCane]

For football, my prediction is no further bowl bans and 15 scholarships lost over 3 years. I think the University will accept that, especially if Al's self-imposed scholarship restrictions apply. We will get additional years of probation and a few coaches will get hit.

That is not good.

How do reductions work? Does 15 over 3 yrs mean we would have to keep our roster at 80 for each of those three years? Really forces coaches to make good recruiting decisions

 

[cooks002]

11 am update:

### UPDATE: Here is what Sports Illustrated posted on their web site in advance of the release of its full article on UM and the NCAA later today. It talks about the NCAA's mishandling of the Miami case and Shapiro's gambling allegations:

After months of interviews with current and former NCAA staffers, as well as with convicted felon and former notorious University of Miami booster Nevin Shapiro, a special report entitled “The Institution Has Lost Control” in this week’s SPORTS ILLUSTRATED by senior writers Pete Thamel and Alexander Wolff exposes a fractured NCAA enforcement department seemingly powerless to do its job—despite recent efforts.
“People are questioning the need and effectiveness of an enforcement staff in general,” says former NCAA enforcement rep Abigail Grantstein, “to the point that I wonder if the membership will say we don’t want it.” “The time is ripe to cheat,” adds an ex-enforcement staffer. “There’s no policing going on.”

Shapiro, whose initial allegations that he supplied improper benefits to more than 100 Miami football and basketball players between 2002 and ‘10 came to light and was mostly corroborated in an August 2011 Yahoo! Sports report, now claims that he used inside information from Hurricanes players, coaches and athletic department staffers to win bets on 23 Miami football games between 2003 and ’09. Shapiro supplied SI with financial statements and bank records from 2005 to ’08 that show dozens of five- and six-figure sums moving from Shapiro’s entities to Adam Meyer’s during the college football season. Meyer is the operator of a handicapping website AdamWins.com. Meyer’s lawyer, Joel Hirschhorn, told SI that Meyer would place bets for Shapiro when his client was in Las Vegas.

An example of Shapiro’s new claims: He told SI that several days before favored Miami lost 19-16 to N.C. State on Nov. 3, 2007, he learned from a coach that quarterback Kyle Wright would be benched due to a bad knee and ankle. Shapiro said he got his bet in before the benching became public, and the line moved from 13 points to 11. Records show that six days after the game, nine wires moved $1.18 million from one Shapiro business to another. Shapiro claims it was all money from the N.C. State game.

 

[cane since birth]

11 am update:

### UPDATE: Here is what Sports Illustrated posted on their web site in advance of the release of its full article on UM and the NCAA later today. It talks about the NCAA's mishandling of the Miami case and Shapiro's gambling allegations:

After months of interviews with current and former NCAA staffers, as well as with convicted felon and former notorious University of Miami booster Nevin Shapiro, a special report entitled “The Institution Has Lost Control” in this week’s SPORTS ILLUSTRATED by senior writers Pete Thamel and Alexander Wolff exposes a fractured NCAA enforcement department seemingly powerless to do its job—despite recent efforts.
“People are questioning the need and effectiveness of an enforcement staff in general,” says former NCAA enforcement rep Abigail Grantstein, “to the point that I wonder if the membership will say we don’t want it.” “The time is ripe to cheat,” adds an ex-enforcement staffer. “There’s no policing going on.”

Shapiro, whose initial allegations that he supplied improper benefits to more than 100 Miami football and basketball players between 2002 and ‘10 came to light and was mostly corroborated in an August 2011 Yahoo! Sports report, now claims that he used inside information from Hurricanes players, coaches and athletic department staffers to win bets on 23 Miami football games between 2003 and ’09. Shapiro supplied SI with financial statements and bank records from 2005 to ’08 that show dozens of five- and six-figure sums moving from Shapiro’s entities to Adam Meyer’s during the college football season. Meyer is the operator of a handicapping website AdamWins.com. Meyer’s lawyer, Joel Hirschhorn, told SI that Meyer would place bets for Shapiro when his client was in Las Vegas.

An example of Shapiro’s new claims: He told SI that several days before favored Miami lost 19-16 to N.C. State on Nov. 3, 2007, he learned from a coach that quarterback Kyle Wright would be benched due to a bad knee and ankle. Shapiro said he got his bet in before the benching became public, and the line moved from 13 points to 11. Records show that six days after the game, nine wires moved $1.18 million from one Shapiro business to another. Shapiro claims it was all money from the N.C. State game.

if it aint one thing its another, Jesus Christ

 

[Cane1996]

11 am update:

### UPDATE: Here is what Sports Illustrated posted on their web site in advance of the release of its full article on UM and the NCAA later today. It talks about the NCAA's mishandling of the Miami case and Shapiro's gambling allegations:

After months of interviews with current and former NCAA staffers, as well as with convicted felon and former notorious University of Miami booster Nevin Shapiro, a special report entitled “The Institution Has Lost Control” in this week’s SPORTS ILLUSTRATED by senior writers Pete Thamel and Alexander Wolff exposes a fractured NCAA enforcement department seemingly powerless to do its job—despite recent efforts.
“People are questioning the need and effectiveness of an enforcement staff in general,” says former NCAA enforcement rep Abigail Grantstein, “to the point that I wonder if the membership will say we don’t want it.” “The time is ripe to cheat,” adds an ex-enforcement staffer. “There’s no policing going on.”

Shapiro, whose initial allegations that he supplied improper benefits to more than 100 Miami football and basketball players between 2002 and ‘10 came to light and was mostly corroborated in an August 2011 Yahoo! Sports report, now claims that he used inside information from Hurricanes players, coaches and athletic department staffers to win bets on 23 Miami football games between 2003 and ’09. Shapiro supplied SI with financial statements and bank records from 2005 to ’08 that show dozens of five- and six-figure sums moving from Shapiro’s entities to Adam Meyer’s during the college football season. Meyer is the operator of a handicapping website AdamWins.com. Meyer’s lawyer, Joel Hirschhorn, told SI that Meyer would place bets for Shapiro when his client was in Las Vegas.

An example of Shapiro’s new claims: He told SI that several days before favored Miami lost 19-16 to N.C. State on Nov. 3, 2007, he learned from a coach that quarterback Kyle Wright would be benched due to a bad knee and ankle. Shapiro said he got his bet in before the benching became public, and the line moved from 13 points to 11. Records show that six days after the game, nine wires moved $1.18 million from one Shapiro business to another. Shapiro claims it was all money from the N.C. State game.

That was the classic Kirbnobyl game, where Kirby went 1 for 13 for 80 yards 1 TD, and 3 INT's.

 

[SniperCane]

And we're just suppose to take his word that he got inside info because he has bank records of money changing hands? This is no different than restaurant receipts proving that it was dinner with players!

It's ******* absurd how the media continue to give this sociopath a platform to further his vendetta. No matter how untrustworthy he's proven to be, and how many people have been fleeced by his deception.

 

[villain]

Hypothetical question would it be an NCAA a violation if the UM female track and basketball team got free drinks at the bar? Cause most ladies don't pay a dime for drinks when out.

 

[ThePorge]

...and was mostly corroborated in an August 2011 Yahoo! Sports report

Wow, I didn't realize Robinson was at the scenes when the alleged allegations happened to able able to corroborate Nevin's stories.

 

[NVA CANE]

What does it say about SI when a bunch of full ****** mall cop lawyers at the NCAA wouldn't touch this, yet SI deems it worthy of publishing.

 

[cowboycane]

11 am update:

### UPDATE: Here is what Sports Illustrated posted on their web site in advance of the release of its full article on UM and the NCAA later today. It talks about the NCAA's mishandling of the Miami case and Shapiro's gambling allegations:

After months of interviews with current and former NCAA staffers, as well as with convicted felon and former notorious University of Miami booster Nevin Shapiro, a special report entitled “The Institution Has Lost Control” in this week’s SPORTS ILLUSTRATED by senior writers Pete Thamel and Alexander Wolff exposes a fractured NCAA enforcement department seemingly powerless to do its job—despite recent efforts.
“People are questioning the need and effectiveness of an enforcement staff in general,” says former NCAA enforcement rep Abigail Grantstein, “to the point that I wonder if the membership will say we don’t want it.” “The time is ripe to cheat,” adds an ex-enforcement staffer. “There’s no policing going on.”

Shapiro, whose initial allegations that he supplied improper benefits to more than 100 Miami football and basketball players between 2002 and ‘10 came to light and was mostly corroborated in an August 2011 Yahoo! Sports report, now claims that he used inside information from Hurricanes players, coaches and athletic department staffers to win bets on 23 Miami football games between 2003 and ’09. Shapiro supplied SI with financial statements and bank records from 2005 to ’08 that show dozens of five- and six-figure sums moving from Shapiro’s entities to Adam Meyer’s during the college football season. Meyer is the operator of a handicapping website AdamWins.com. Meyer’s lawyer, Joel Hirschhorn, told SI that Meyer would place bets for Shapiro when his client was in Las Vegas.

An example of Shapiro’s new claims: He told SI that several days before favored Miami lost 19-16 to N.C. State on Nov. 3, 2007, he learned from a coach that quarterback Kyle Wright would be benched due to a bad knee and ankle. Shapiro said he got his bet in before the benching became public, and the line moved from 13 points to 11. Records show that six days after the game, nine wires moved $1.18 million from one Shapiro business to another. Shapiro claims it was all money from the N.C. State game.

That was the classic Kirbnobyl game, where Kirby went 1 for 13 for 80 yards 1 TD, and 3 INT's.

Did that game on the radio for WVUM. Literally the most frustrating experience of my entire life. There are only so many ways to say "this is embarassing" without actually saying it.

 

[riceman]

...and was mostly corroborated in an August 2011 Yahoo! Sports report

Wow, I didn't realize Robinson was at the scenes when the alleged allegations happened to able able to corroborate Nevin's stories.

LOL worthy indeed.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Just want this over, the NCAA already investigated this once and didn't find it credible, but he said it again so it must be true now.

 

[Vanderhooooov]

11 am update:

### UPDATE: Here is what Sports Illustrated posted on their web site in advance of the release of its full article on UM and the NCAA later today. It talks about the NCAA's mishandling of the Miami case and Shapiro's gambling allegations:

After months of interviews with current and former NCAA staffers, as well as with convicted felon and former notorious University of Miami booster Nevin Shapiro, a special report entitled “The Institution Has Lost Control” in this week’s SPORTS ILLUSTRATED by senior writers Pete Thamel and Alexander Wolff exposes a fractured NCAA enforcement department seemingly powerless to do its job—despite recent efforts.
“People are questioning the need and effectiveness of an enforcement staff in general,” says former NCAA enforcement rep Abigail Grantstein, “to the point that I wonder if the membership will say we don’t want it.” “The time is ripe to cheat,” adds an ex-enforcement staffer. “There’s no policing going on.”

Shapiro, whose initial allegations that he supplied improper benefits to more than 100 Miami football and basketball players between 2002 and ‘10 came to light and was mostly corroborated in an August 2011 Yahoo! Sports report, now claims that he used inside information from Hurricanes players, coaches and athletic department staffers to win bets on 23 Miami football games between 2003 and ’09. Shapiro supplied SI with financial statements and bank records from 2005 to ’08 that show dozens of five- and six-figure sums moving from Shapiro’s entities to Adam Meyer’s during the college football season. Meyer is the operator of a handicapping website AdamWins.com. Meyer’s lawyer, Joel Hirschhorn, told SI that Meyer would place bets for Shapiro when his client was in Las Vegas.

An example of Shapiro’s new claims: He told SI that several days before favored Miami lost 19-16 to N.C. State on Nov. 3, 2007, he learned from a coach that quarterback Kyle Wright would be benched due to a bad knee and ankle. Shapiro said he got his bet in before the benching became public, and the line moved from 13 points to 11. Records show that six days after the game, nine wires moved $1.18 million from one Shapiro business to another. Shapiro claims it was all money from the N.C. State game.

That was the classic Kirbnobyl game, where Kirby went 1 for 13 for 80 yards 1 TD, and 3 INT's.

Wasn't the 1 a 80 yard TD to Sam Shields? Lord that was a bad year.

 

[dycane]

So, SI is running with a story, based on Nevin's word alone, that UM coaches supplied inside information. No naming of the coaches. No third party cooperation. Just a circumstantial inference based on wager timeline? You have got to be joking.

 

[dookie blaylock]

11 am update:

### UPDATE: Here is what Sports Illustrated posted on their web site in advance of the release of its full article on UM and the NCAA later today. It talks about the NCAA's mishandling of the Miami case and Shapiro's gambling allegations:

After months of interviews with current and former NCAA staffers, as well as with convicted felon and former notorious University of Miami booster Nevin Shapiro, a special report entitled “The Institution Has Lost Control” in this week’s SPORTS ILLUSTRATED by senior writers Pete Thamel and Alexander Wolff exposes a fractured NCAA enforcement department seemingly powerless to do its job—despite recent efforts.
“People are questioning the need and effectiveness of an enforcement staff in general,” says former NCAA enforcement rep Abigail Grantstein, “to the point that I wonder if the membership will say we don’t want it.” “The time is ripe to cheat,” adds an ex-enforcement staffer. “There’s no policing going on.”

Shapiro, whose initial allegations that he supplied improper benefits to more than 100 Miami football and basketball players between 2002 and ‘10 came to light and was mostly corroborated in an August 2011 Yahoo! Sports report, now claims that he used inside information from Hurricanes players, coaches and athletic department staffers to win bets on 23 Miami football games between 2003 and ’09. Shapiro supplied SI with financial statements and bank records from 2005 to ’08 that show dozens of five- and six-figure sums moving from Shapiro’s entities to Adam Meyer’s during the college football season. Meyer is the operator of a handicapping website AdamWins.com. Meyer’s lawyer, Joel Hirschhorn, told SI that Meyer would place bets for Shapiro when his client was in Las Vegas.

An example of Shapiro’s new claims: He told SI that several days before favored Miami lost 19-16 to N.C. State on Nov. 3, 2007, he learned from a coach that quarterback Kyle Wright would be benched due to a bad knee and ankle. Shapiro said he got his bet in before the benching became public, and the line moved from 13 points to 11. Records show that six days after the game, nine wires moved $1.18 million from one Shapiro business to another. Shapiro claims it was all money from the N.C. State game.

That was the classic Kirbnobyl game, where Kirby went 1 for 13 for 80 yards 1 TD, and 3 INT's.

Wasn't the 1 a 80 yard TD to Sam Shields? Lord that was a bad year.

but we did beat the noles in tally that year, so not all was lost.

 

[OrangeCane]

That was the classic Kirbnobyl game, where Kirby went 1 for 13 for 80 yards 1 TD, and 3 INT's.

Wasn't the 1 a 80 yard TD to Sam Shields? Lord that was a bad year.

Darnell Jenkins, if I remember correctly. Jenkins had his man beat by 5 yards, but the ball was so underthrown that he had to stop and come back for it... luckily, the defender had his head turned to catch up to the WR and never spotted the ball, and then Jenkins just ran by him.

 

[DiegoCane]

11 am update:

### UPDATE: Here is what Sports Illustrated posted on their web site in advance of the release of its full article on UM and the NCAA later today. It talks about the NCAA's mishandling of the Miami case and Shapiro's gambling allegations:

After months of interviews with current and former NCAA staffers, as well as with convicted felon and former notorious University of Miami booster Nevin Shapiro, a special report entitled “The Institution Has Lost Control” in this week’s SPORTS ILLUSTRATED by senior writers Pete Thamel and Alexander Wolff exposes a fractured NCAA enforcement department seemingly powerless to do its job—despite recent efforts.
“People are questioning the need and effectiveness of an enforcement staff in general,” says former NCAA enforcement rep Abigail Grantstein, “to the point that I wonder if the membership will say we don’t want it.” “The time is ripe to cheat,” adds an ex-enforcement staffer. “There’s no policing going on.”

Shapiro, whose initial allegations that he supplied improper benefits to more than 100 Miami football and basketball players between 2002 and ‘10 came to light and was mostly corroborated in an August 2011 Yahoo! Sports report, now claims that he used inside information from Hurricanes players, coaches and athletic department staffers to win bets on 23 Miami football games between 2003 and ’09. Shapiro supplied SI with financial statements and bank records from 2005 to ’08 that show dozens of five- and six-figure sums moving from Shapiro’s entities to Adam Meyer’s during the college football season. Meyer is the operator of a handicapping website AdamWins.com. Meyer’s lawyer, Joel Hirschhorn, told SI that Meyer would place bets for Shapiro when his client was in Las Vegas.

An example of Shapiro’s new claims: He told SI that several days before favored Miami lost 19-16 to N.C. State on Nov. 3, 2007, he learned from a coach that quarterback Kyle Wright would be benched due to a bad knee and ankle. Shapiro said he got his bet in before the benching became public, and the line moved from 13 points to 11. Records show that six days after the game, nine wires moved $1.18 million from one Shapiro business to another. Shapiro claims it was all money from the N.C. State game.

Well then it must be. WTF, how can these journalist take his word? He's stated he's **** bent on taking down Miami. It couldn't be that he is in jail just dreaming up more lies to try and do what he set out to do. Crazy that he would wait this long to release this info. Its total BS, he's a raving lunatic and yet he has the media eating out of his hand.