Maason Smith 2.0

[RVACane]

You had to go and remind of that after I had successfully blocked it out.

Washington looks like a LT to me. I don’t sweat him as a TE loss.

 

[Salt]

I'm hearing some things this morning from my third personality. Lets just say it's looking good.

But your 2nd personality is not really convinced.

 

[Stylie]

But your 2nd personality is not really convinced.

Second personality isn't a sports fan. No interest.

 

[TrueFloridian]

Washington looks like a LT to me. I don’t sweat him as a TE loss.

He looks slow and can’t dip hips in his routes. That being said, UGA is using him wrong having him run those routes in the first place. He should be running drags and fades.

 

[DTP]

Huh? I think you mean kids dont care about wins BUT take into consideration program trajectory. If kids didnt care about wins at all then FSU would be sitting pretty right now instead of losing a recruit every other day. Wins and losses are important to recruits. No recruit wants to join a losing program and a program that is a train wreck.

No program can consistently pull top classes while simultaneously having losing seasons. After a down year or two, the program loses appeal. Kids lose interest. Then there's a coaching change and the new guy is selling a different product. The program gets a quick recruiting bump. If the new staff doesn't eventually right the ship, the recruiting will fall off again until a new regime takes over. Wash, rinse, repeat. I've never seen a losing program sign string together multiple top 10 classes. Kids ABSOLUTELY want to win. I don't care how many bags you drop, if you can't start winning consistently, you're not going to get the best recruits. Remember when Ole **** bought every player they could and still couldn't win the SEC west? After a few years, their recruiting fell off a cliff because you can't literally buy every single recruit. You have to eventually sign players on your own merit and nobody is going to sign with a terrible program unless they're getting compensated.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

IMO, it's always a mistake to talk about HS recruits' wants/preferences in absolutes or in binary terms. Some kids care about program tradition, others rather build something new. Some kids want to stay close to their family/friends, others want to get as far from home as possible. Some kids want to play with their friends and current teammates, others prefer to play with savages from around the country. Some kids only want to go to a winner, others prefer to be part of a turnaround. Most kids do care about how many players go to the NFL from a certain school, but then you have others where as long as the schools sends some players to the league that's enough (they just want to know it's possible). Some kids care a ton about quality of education, other kids don't really value the degree much. On top of all of that, there are often bags to contend with for blue chip kids (but even then there are those rare kids/families who make it known they aren't looking for a bag and attempts at a bag drop actually hurt the recruitment).

At the end of the day, they are kids and their opinions are everywhere, and they often hold many different preferences and priorities all at once (which are all subject to change anyway, because they are teenagers). Good recruiters figure out what individual recruits prefer and sell hard on their school's strengths. Great recruiters can change a kid's mind and have some effect on a kid's priorities (to more closely mirror the school's strengths).

As far as Maason Smith is concerned, he seems to really like our defense and our system, he sees that we are winning right now, and he knows enough about our history to recognize we have put DL into the league in the past and we are about to put a few into the league in the 2021 Draft. Obviously, he's a clear 5* at a bag position in Louisiana, so I'm just not expecting him in this class.

But with the above, we have a legitimate shot. If you'd asked me 12 months ago about a kid like this, I would have said you're dreaming.

 

[CoastCane]

Is he coming or nah?

Please stay on topic.

Thank you

 

[TriStarCane]

Nobody has been to Miami for nearly a year.

True - but he has made an effort to visit his other top schools. But he hasn't been here. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence, right?

 

[IcemanArcade]

Manny should let G.Willis III talk to the kid. Both are from Louisiana. Both rated the #2 DT in their class, and Maason Smith can have a Willis type impact within our D-line. Pair that up with LT and sell him the dream. Though there were off the field stuff with Willis, I believe had he been in a scheme like ours since FR. He would be first round pick easily.

 

[The Real Kirk Lazarus]

We did sign Seantrel Henderson out of HS. He was released from his USC LOI and we signed him shortly thereafter. This is not unlike how we signed Kellen Winslow.

Jaelan Phillips was an actual transfer.

Lmao dude what are you talking about? Kellen signed straight up with us. Seantrel signed because all usc recruits were allowed out if they wanted because of the ncaa stuff. So again we only got seantrel because of outside factors not a straight up signing

 

[CaliforniaCanes]

G.Willis III talk to the kid. Both are from Louisiana. Both rated the #2 DT in their class, and Maason Smith can have a Willis type impact within our D-line. Pair that up with LT and sell him the dream. Though there were off the field stuff with Willis, I believe had he been in a scheme like ours since FR. He would be first round pick easily.

Probably not who I would have speak to him. While GW was extremely productive, he did not get drafted. I bet other schools are pointing to him as a way to persuade him not to go here.

 

[Memnon]

Cribby and LCE have spoken, by not speaking.

1999 Era Recruiting vs Today (Derailed Maason Smith thread)

I was raised on old school defense philosophies where you win from inside - out. Just imagine. 1 tech - Maason Smith 3 tech - Leonard Taylor Mike - T2 Strong - james Williams Free- Kam Kitchens And thats 1 recruiting cycle !!!! chase smith at striker

www.canesinsight.com

I did speak on it already.

 

[theramon]

 

[Hurricane4lyfe]

According to Manny we're TNM

 

[Artist Formerly Known As]

Smith and Taylor would give us a Dexter Lawrence and Wilkins caliber starting interior DL.

I don’t think Smith leaves SEC territory, but it would be program changing if he somehow came to Miami.

 

[Dwinstitles]

If we get Smith that's ACC title type defense in year two

 

[BS85]

Washington looks like a LT to me. I don’t sweat him as a TE loss.

I didn't watch much of his film at all but I kind of got the same vibe. Not sure he can change direction well enough to be well rounded.

 

[RealRussellPumps]

If we get Smith that's ACC title type defense in year two

If we get Smith and LT, Williams, And Kinchens are the type of players we think they are, that’s a playoff caliber D in year 2 IMO.

 

[Dwinstitles]

If we get Smith and LT, Williams, And Kinchens are the type of players we think they are, that’s a playoff caliber D in year 2 IMO.

Agree

Assuming we stack the following class with the same type of players. Then yes

 

[Salt]

Second personality isn't a sports fan. No interest.

But that is your 1st personality's opinion. Not the most reliable in reading other personalities.