Leonard Taylor committing 8/6

3 candidates, not 4...atleast from what I've heard.

And who actually is dropped will depend on who we get. If Markevious Brown and Jason Marshall come on board...well then it's obvious. And so on....


Sorry, typo. I meant 3 out of a pool of 4.

And, yes, I think it depends on "who". For instance, we could SURVIVE without a RB or K signee, but then we'd need to hit the portal and/or sign a kid ready to play as a true freshman the following year.
 
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Sure. It'll work. Try it.

For the record, I have spent my career doing corporate tax.

By the way, UM is laying people off right now. A friend of mine (all the way back to the undergrad days) just lost her job. But you are proposing an idea whereby an assistant strength coach (official title: "Assistant Strength & Conditioning Coach - Football and Golf"), which probably pays 80K to 100K, will get a "promotion" (no idea who is being fired to make way for this new promotion) and a "100K raise" AT THE EXACT SAME TIME that UM is laying people off AND admitting his 4-star football player kid into UM.

Yeah, you prepare that "compensation study" while I laugh. And I'm assuming that UM is going to commission an expensive "compensation study" for, literally, ONE JOB instead of, say, for the entire UM employment force. "One person comp studies" may fly at non-profits, but not in the corporate world.
And corporate tax has nothing whatsoever with what you are talking about now. If I had a corporate tax question, I would bring in a corporate tax attorney as it is out of my wheelhouse, just as this is out of yours. This is quite literally part of my job, so maybe listening instead of trying to bluster about knowing everything would do you well.

Can vs should are two separate things. One, you have no idea what this guy makes after 17 years at the university, so you are frankly at best making an assumption or at worst talking out of your ***. Two, yes there are layoffs but they also found the room during covid to hire the guy from FSU, so while there may be trimming the fat, others will be getting raises or brought on. Three, he has been there 17 years. Change assistant to senior in his job title. The NCAA is not going to tell you that you are not allowed to promote people. It is stupid and naive to think otherwise. Four, all companies do benchmarks when it is raise time, or to hire or promote someone - big four accounting firms, big law firms, etc. It is not just not-for-profits. They use ADP or similar companies that have this information available. However, Miami is a not for profit, so what you are saying about what for-profit companies do is 100% irrelevant, in addition to being flatly wrong. Five, it is not a whole study. You don't think peer athletic departments are paying similar roles? It is in the paper at big schools. You just need to make sure people are not being paid an exorbitant amount relative to their job title, experience, etc. and document it. 501c3s have compensation committees that have to approve things similar to this. Six, people get promoted all of the time. This is not like hiring a high school coach into an analyst role for $150k a year or creating a new position.

I am not saying they will do this or even that they should do this during Covid, and I feel for people like your friend. However, I am saying that it is not the huge deal that you have convinced yourself that it is. Schools have done a lot more egregious things with employees and creating of positions than potentially promoting a 17 year employee. Sorry, but you are just wrong in this case. I am not going to fill up this thread beyond this hypothetical that neither of us have any form of a say or interest in.
 
***** these guys on here predicting Malik Curtis getting dropped. Kid is as fast and skilled as any offensive player committed. Adding Marshall, Breshard Smith, Lenny Taylor and Chase Smith can be done without anyone having to be dropped. After Williams committed we don't or IMO won't accept a commitment from Collier. We got the two Safeties we wanted.
 
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And corporate tax has nothing whatsoever with what you are talking about now. If I had a corporate tax question, I would bring in a corporate tax attorney as it is out of my wheelhouse, just as this is out of yours. This is quite literally part of my job, so maybe listening instead of trying to bluster about knowing everything would do you well.

Can vs should are two separate things. One, you have no idea what this guy makes after 17 years at the university, so you are frankly at best making an assumption or at worst talking out of your ***. Two, yes there are layoffs but they also found the room during covid to hire the guy from FSU, so while there may be trimming the fat, others will be getting raises or brought on. Three, he has been there 17 years. Change assistant to senior in his job title. The NCAA is not going to tell you that you are not allowed to promote people. It is stupid and naive to think otherwise. Four, all companies do benchmarks when it is raise time, or to hire or promote someone - big four accounting firms, big law firms, etc. It is not just not-for-profits. They use ADP or similar companies that have this information available. However, Miami is a not for profit, so what you are saying about what for-profit companies do is 100% irrelevant, in addition to being flatly wrong. Five, it is not a whole study. You don't think peer athletic departments are paying similar roles? It is in the paper at big schools. You just need to make sure people are not being paid an exorbitant amount relative to their job title, experience, etc. and document it. 501c3s have compensation committees that have to approve things similar to this. Six, people get promoted all of the time. This is not like hiring a high school coach into an analyst role for $150k a year or creating a new position.

I am not saying they will do this or even that they should do this during Covid, and I feel for people like your friend. However, I am saying that it is not the huge deal that you have convinced yourself that it is. Schools have done a lot more egregious things with employees and creating of positions than potentially promoting a 17 year employee. Sorry, but you are just wrong in this case. I am not going to fill up this thread beyond this hypothetical that neither of us have any form of a say or interest in.


Lots of words from you, very little substance.

Yes, corp tax is more relevant than non-profit tax in this situation. You are not trying to justify an Executive Director salary in a non-profit setting, you are trying to justify a six-figure raise for ONE EMPLOYEE out of thousands in the middle of an economic downturn, massive layoffs, and no other extenuating circumstances (outside of his football-playing son). You are literally trying to compare a "salary study" for a non-profit (most of which have a handful of employees) to one of the largest employers in Dade County.

As for what I know about UM salaries, I know a lot more than you think I know. And just because a guy has been at UM for seventeen years doesn't mean he is making $250K. I find it amusing that you think that when a guy has a SEVENTEEN-YEAR SALARY HISTORY at one job, that you can suddenly justify a six-figure raise, not to mention a job title change from "Assistant" to "Senior" with no change in job responsibilities.

Finally, you are missing the entirety of the point. The issue is not whether UM could give the guy a raise. Sure, they could. But when it occurs within CLOSE PROXIMITY to the recruitment of his Top 250 football player son, then it will be incredibly easy to establish the quid pro quo. Yep, a guy works SEVENTEEN YEARS without much change in salary or job title, and JUST AS HIS KID ANNOUNCES his college destination, the dad gets a "promotion" and SIX-FIGURE RAISE in the middle of a recession and layoffs.

Sure. You're the expert. Why don't you send this brilliant suggestion to Beta Blake, I'm sure he'll do it AND hire you to perform the salary study.

Genius.
 
***** these guys on here predicting Malik Curtis getting dropped. Kid is as fast and skilled as any offensive player committed. Adding Marshall, Breshard Smith, Lenny Taylor and Chase Smith can be done without anyone having to be dropped. After Williams committed we don't or IMO won't accept a commitment from Collier. We got the two Safeties we wanted.
Have to keep him.
 
***** these guys on here predicting Malik Curtis getting dropped. Kid is as fast and skilled as any offensive player committed. Adding Marshall, Breshard Smith, Lenny Taylor and Chase Smith can be done without anyone having to be dropped. After Williams committed we don't or IMO won't accept a commitment from Collier. We got the two Safeties we wanted.
curits aint getting dropped. they crave his speed.
 
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Add -
Leonard Taylor
Brashard Smith
Thomas Davis
Jake Garcia
Markevious Brown
Yulkieth Brown
Chase Smith

Minus -
Savion Collins
Malik Curtis

then go all out for Marshall. Would land us at 24-25 guys in the class

Garcia is buns.
We keep Curtis
 
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drop Collins for Taylor. Thats us at 19 spots, 6 spots left as a few guys have said the staff wants to take a full 25.

Lock up RB2/WR Brashard Smith and CB Markevious Brown
Move Hammett to the 2nd DE spot (meaning not taking Thomas Davis) and take Chase Smith or TLewis as the 3rd LB
Then shoot our shot for Milroe or Garcia at QB
Then shoot our shot for Leigh or Tate at OT
Then shoot our shot for Marshall at CB. If he says it's Bama, then grab Divaad here.
 
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Never thought I’d see in this recent tenure of Cane years, us debating about dropping kids for potential 4/5* studs. I thought after Golden we were cursed. This is beautiful 😢
 
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