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LOL at all the armchair coaches getting all worked up about a position which will almost never be used outside of possible goal-line situations.
 
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Mahoney-Pearson said:
Colombie said:
Somebody has to tell the Atlanta Falcons that the FB position is out of style.
It seems like theirs is always open for 20 yard gains due to all the other weapons they have.

The best offenses know how to utilize WRs, RBs (Including FBs), TEs and show teams various formations and looks.

And people love to bring up Richt's past at F$U and how he did his fast break stuff but he still had FB's like William Floyd a Zach Crockett pounding the guys off the line when need be.
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Amp Lee...
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What about Amp Lee?
 
I'll believe that we'll almost never use a FB when I see it.

Williams played a lot last season.
 
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Fzac75 said:
skyman said:
Get this position all the way the **** out of my face. Anytime you bring a fullback on the field every DC in america smiles. I dont know why our fan base has essentially become the type of fans old UM ended up destroying while we ushered in a new era of college football. Now we are the relics as the game is essentially passing us by. We used to be innovators dammit!
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The 1983 '87 or 2001 national champion relics of UM would like to have a word with you, along side other recent national champions who have used fullbacks as part their personnel packages


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This is the best point that anybody has made on here
 
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The Franchise said:
Mahoney-Pearson said:
Colombie said:
Somebody has to tell the Atlanta Falcons that the FB position is out of style.
It seems like theirs is always open for 20 yard gains due to all the other weapons they have.

The best offenses know how to utilize WRs, RBs (Including FBs), TEs and show teams various formations and looks.

And people love to bring up Richt's past at F$U and how he did his fast break stuff but he still had FB's like William Floyd a Zach Crockett pounding the guys off the line when need be.
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Amp Lee...
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What about Amp Lee?
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Se bold..


RB who thrived in a FB based running game..
 
Fzac75 said:
Coach Macho said:
Fzac75 said:
skyman said:
jkaz1 said:
And the '83 championship team had a walk-on FB (Albert Bentley) like we may have with Washington being discussed....
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Did these guys actually use championships from over 30+ years ago to actually help prove my point? You do understand that at those times it made sense but the game of football has evolved right? Anyway like ghost said he probably wont be on field enough anyway and with how guarded practices have been Pete has got to make articles on something so its no biggie.
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I didn't know the 2001 team was 30 years ago or those Baka teams either. Point being when you have the talent you can use all kinds of personnel packages, and there is nothing wrong with having a package that employs the fullback/h-back. It's called being versatile


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Being versatile for the sake of being versatile is usually a fail. We did that garbage last year. I don't remember what game it was but we looked like our OC was calling his plays by rolling the dice. We were in 21 personnel one play then 10 personnel the next.

Usually when you try to be good at a bunch of different ****, you end up not excelling in anything, you just end up being mediocre at a bunch of different ****. (rather than being great at one thing)

IMO there's really no reason to get under center and run traditional Pro Sets. Any play that we wanna run out of that formation can be ran out of the gun/spread. Power, Iso, Counter, etc.
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I don't pretend to be an X's and O's guy, didn't play enough Madden to qualify, but what I do know after watching for so many years, and hearing from and talking to actual players, is that it makes no difference what scheme you run, what matters s having the talent to run that scheme, execute it better than the opponent, call the right play at the right time.

And according to these, the concepts and formations we have seen is nothing new, nor innovative, and its basic principles are still the same as they were when George Halas first walked the sideline for the Bears. It's just window dressing

What I find funny is this close minded attitude towards the "pro style offense" as if it doesn't work, or it's a relic. Last I checked it's worked today, just like lining up in the gun works today as well. All that matters is talent and execution regardless of formation


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Yeah I hear you. I don't disagree. However, my argument against the Pro at Miami has always been the talent issue. It's a lot easier for Miami to reload the pieces they need running the spread than it is running the Pro. We have more access to scat RB's and elite WR's than we do mauling OL and in-line TE's. (as well as QB's who play under center)

People like to point to Alabama when they talk successful Pro Style but they fail to realize that Miami doesn't get the same kids Bama does. Our local kids don't play the same brand of football that kids from their recruiting ground play. They also have gotten away from the Pro Style and last season almost won the National Championship with a Freshman QB running the spread.

So when you say it comes down to having the talent to run a specific scheme, I agree, but I would say that Miami doesn't consistently get the talent to run a successful Pro Style.
 
Coach Macho said:
So when you say it comes down to having the talent to run a specific scheme, I agree, but I would say that Miami doesn't consistently get the talent to run a successful Pro Style.
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While I agree 100% that the kids coming in aren't a perfect fit for the pro, our coaches aren't a perfect fit to teach the spread. We would need another 500k/1mil to bring in a real OC. Not sure Richt wants that so we are likely stuck fitting some square pegs into round holes.
 
ILCane2011 said:
rokulika said:
I'll believe that we'll almost never use a FB when I see it.

Williams played a lot last season.
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The 1st half yes, the 2nd half no

He played 10 plays the last 6 games of the season combined.
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This. The offensive improvement coincided with two main fundamental changes. The shift on offensive line and dumping a majority of the pro set offense in favor of more shotgun/spread sets.
 
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Mahoney-Pearson said:
The Franchise said:
Mahoney-Pearson said:
Colombie said:
Somebody has to tell the Atlanta Falcons that the FB position is out of style.
It seems like theirs is always open for 20 yard gains due to all the other weapons they have.

The best offenses know how to utilize WRs, RBs (Including FBs), TEs and show teams various formations and looks.

And people love to bring up Richt's past at F$U and how he did his fast break stuff but he still had FB's like William Floyd a Zach Crockett pounding the guys off the line when need be.
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Amp Lee...
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What about Amp Lee?
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Se bold..


RB who thrived in a FB based running game..
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LOL. You thought he was a FB. Otherwise your post made zero sense. There were plenty of RBs who thrived with a FB in the offense.
 
DTP said:
ILCane2011 said:
rokulika said:
I'll believe that we'll almost never use a FB when I see it.

Williams played a lot last season.
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The 1st half yes, the 2nd half no

He played 10 plays the last 6 games of the season combined.
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This. The offensive improvement coincided with two main fundamental changes. The shift on offensive line and dumping a majority of the pro set offense in favor of more shotgun/spread sets.
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Shotgun was for Kayaa's benefit, and may not have been a permanent change.
 
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kryptonite said:
DTP said:
ILCane2011 said:
rokulika said:
I'll believe that we'll almost never use a FB when I see it.

Williams played a lot last season.
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The 1st half yes, the 2nd half no

He played 10 plays the last 6 games of the season combined.
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This. The offensive improvement coincided with two main fundamental changes. The shift on offensive line and dumping a majority of the pro set offense in favor of more shotgun/spread sets.
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Shotgun was for Kayaa's benefit, and may not have been a permanent change.
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Shotgun was for everyone's benefit. They couldn't run the ball out of the pro set either. That had nothing to do with Kaaya.
 
WOw there are some true morons on this thread. A FB is essential to a Richt offense and I love using one out of the back field as well if he can catch. I have visions of guys like Quad Hill and Najeh dancing in my head anytime someone says FBs are dead. Obviously this guy ain't those 2 but you need at worst a servicable FB. No, they aren't used much in this pass happy age but they are vital if you want to ram the ball down another team's throat and Richt loves using his RB studs.
 
Any time this kid is on the field while Thomas, Dallas, Harley, Mullins stand on the sideline an angel will lose its wings.
 
It's 2017. A fullback shouldn't be on the field for more than 10 plays a game. Short yardage and an occasional power set but that's it. Every time a fullback is out there, you're taking one of your play makers off the field for him. This is coming from someone who understands and appreciates the responsibilities of a real, lead blocking fullback. The way the rules are enforced, combined with the ridiculous amount of skill position talent at Miami makes using traditional two back sets counterproductive. The game isn't what it was 20 years ago.
 
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