Leader emerging for fullback spot

[dudenate]

More power I runs coming on 1st down for 1 yard gains. Awesome!

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How did u get that from Pete's post?? We run a pro-offense. 1 of the 11 on the field is usually a FB.

 

[kryptonite]

I dont understand how some of these kids can can afford to walk on @ Miami. One semester is at least 6 grand, almost double a state school.

Same way all the other students do?

 

[Bunker Mentality]

Somebody has to tell the Atlanta Falcons that the FB position is out of style.
It seems like theirs is always open for 20 yard gains due to all the other weapons they have.

The best offenses know how to utilize WRs, RBs (Including FBs), TEs and show teams various formations and looks.

And people love to bring up Richt's past at F$U and how he did his fast break stuff but he still had FB's like William Floyd a Zach Crockett pounding the guys off the line when need be.

Amp Lee...

 

[ILCane2011]

I dont understand how some of these kids can can afford to walk on @ Miami. One semester is at least 6 grand, almost double a state school.

Same way all the other students do?

IIRC Washington is a really smart kid who is here on an academic scholarship. He also had offers from Navy and a few other schools, so he's definitely more talented than most walk-ons.

His dad also played in the NFL for 12 years, so the family probably is pretty well off

 

[g8rh8rMD]

Most important position on the field. I want to play football in a phone booth. Give me a super jumbo package 90% of the game, and I'm winning that pesky Coastal in a few years.

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[Fzac75]

Get this position all the way the **** out of my face. Anytime you bring a fullback on the field every DC in america smiles. I dont know why our fan base has essentially become the type of fans old UM ended up destroying while we ushered in a new era of college football. Now we are the relics as the game is essentially passing us by. We used to be innovators dammit!

The 1983 '87 or 2001 national champion relics of UM would like to have a word with you, along side other recent national champions who have used fullbacks as part their personnel packages


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[Reshon52ap]

Dont give af bout a fb man when we gone get some real updates this no viewing practice rule trash

 

[Lokest]

People being negative just to be negative.

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[jkaz1]

And the '83 championship team had a walk-on FB (Albert Bentley) like we may have with Washington being discussed....

Get this position all the way the **** out of my face. Anytime you bring a fullback on the field every DC in america smiles. I dont know why our fan base has essentially become the type of fans old UM ended up destroying while we ushered in a new era of college football. Now we are the relics as the game is essentially passing us by. We used to be innovators dammit!

The 1983 '87 or 2001 national champion relics of UM would like to have a word with you, along side other recent national champions who have used fullbacks as part their personnel packages


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[rok]

People being negative just to be negative.

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People wanting to use speed to our advantage. Imagine that.

 

[ghost2]

eh, I doubt we'll see much true FB in live games. My guess is they'll use Herdon 90% of the time in this role, and maybe bring this kid in on 3rd and inches or something. Remember all the spring hype over Marquez Williams? Caught one pass vs. FAU and then had 1 carry vs. Pitt the rest of the year. Non-issue, IMO.

 

[skyman]

And the '83 championship team had a walk-on FB (Albert Bentley) like we may have with Washington being discussed....

Get this position all the way the **** out of my face. Anytime you bring a fullback on the field every DC in america smiles. I dont know why our fan base has essentially become the type of fans old UM ended up destroying while we ushered in a new era of college football. Now we are the relics as the game is essentially passing us by. We used to be innovators dammit!

The 1983 '87 or 2001 national champion relics of UM would like to have a word with you, along side other recent national champions who have used fullbacks as part their personnel packages


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Did these guys actually use championships from over 30+ years ago to actually help prove my point? You do understand that at those times it made sense but the game of football has evolved right? Anyway like ghost said he probably wont be on field enough anyway and with how guarded practices have been Pete has got to make articles on something so its no biggie.

 

[Fzac75]

And the '83 championship team had a walk-on FB (Albert Bentley) like we may have with Washington being discussed....

Get this position all the way the **** out of my face. Anytime you bring a fullback on the field every DC in america smiles. I dont know why our fan base has essentially become the type of fans old UM ended up destroying while we ushered in a new era of college football. Now we are the relics as the game is essentially passing us by. We used to be innovators dammit!

The 1983 '87 or 2001 national champion relics of UM would like to have a word with you, along side other recent national champions who have used fullbacks as part their personnel packages


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Did these guys actually use championships from over 30+ years ago to actually help prove my point? You do understand that at those times it made sense but the game of football has evolved right? Anyway like ghost said he probably wont be on field enough anyway and with how guarded practices have been Pete has got to make articles on something so its no biggie.

I didn't know the 2001 team was 30 years ago or those Baka teams either. Point being when you have the talent you can use all kinds of personnel packages, and there is nothing wrong with having a package that employs the fullback/h-back. It's called being versatile


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[Coach Macho]

And the '83 championship team had a walk-on FB (Albert Bentley) like we may have with Washington being discussed....

Get this position all the way the **** out of my face. Anytime you bring a fullback on the field every DC in america smiles. I dont know why our fan base has essentially become the type of fans old UM ended up destroying while we ushered in a new era of college football. Now we are the relics as the game is essentially passing us by. We used to be innovators dammit!

The 1983 '87 or 2001 national champion relics of UM would like to have a word with you, along side other recent national champions who have used fullbacks as part their personnel packages


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Did these guys actually use championships from over 30+ years ago to actually help prove my point? You do understand that at those times it made sense but the game of football has evolved right? Anyway like ghost said he probably wont be on field enough anyway and with how guarded practices have been Pete has got to make articles on something so its no biggie.

I didn't know the 2001 team was 30 years ago or those Baka teams either. Point being when you have the talent you can use all kinds of personnel packages, and there is nothing wrong with having a package that employs the fullback/h-back. It's called being versatile


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Being versatile for the sake of being versatile is usually a fail. We did that garbage last year. I don't remember what game it was but we looked like our OC was calling his plays by rolling the dice. We were in 21 personnel one play then 10 personnel the next.

Usually when you try to be good at a bunch of different ****, you end up not excelling in anything, you just end up being mediocre at a bunch of different ****. (rather than being great at one thing)

IMO there's really no reason to get under center and run traditional Pro Sets. Any play that we wanna run out of that formation can be ran out of the gun/spread. Power, Iso, Counter, etc.

 

[Coach Macho]

More power I runs coming on 1st down for 1 yard gains. Awesome!

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How did u get that from Pete's post?? We run a pro-offense. 1 of the 11 on the field is usually a FB.

We were primarily a spread offense last season. We rarely ran true Pro sets.

 

[Coach Macho]

Honestly this is an outdated postion in college football. Unless we have Herndon back there creating mismatches in the passing game and another athletic tight end on the field or receiver I would like to see less of this position on the field tbh

It's outdated until someone see it as a mismatch and burns the opposing team with it...

It cant be too outdated, Bama winning with the i-formation as its base offense. You may have meant that its not a fulltime position anymore.

Miami is not Bama. What works for Bama doesn't necessarily work for Miami.

And Bama is getting away from that stuff and moving towards the spread. They were primarily a spread offense last season.

 

[Fzac75]

And the '83 championship team had a walk-on FB (Albert Bentley) like we may have with Washington being discussed....

The 1983 '87 or 2001 national champion relics of UM would like to have a word with you, along side other recent national champions who have used fullbacks as part their personnel packages


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Did these guys actually use championships from over 30+ years ago to actually help prove my point? You do understand that at those times it made sense but the game of football has evolved right? Anyway like ghost said he probably wont be on field enough anyway and with how guarded practices have been Pete has got to make articles on something so its no biggie.

I didn't know the 2001 team was 30 years ago or those Baka teams either. Point being when you have the talent you can use all kinds of personnel packages, and there is nothing wrong with having a package that employs the fullback/h-back. It's called being versatile


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Being versatile for the sake of being versatile is usually a fail. We did that garbage last year. I don't remember what game it was but we looked like our OC was calling his plays by rolling the dice. We were in 21 personnel one play then 10 personnel the next.

Usually when you try to be good at a bunch of different ****, you end up not excelling in anything, you just end up being mediocre at a bunch of different ****. (rather than being great at one thing)

IMO there's really no reason to get under center and run traditional Pro Sets. Any play that we wanna run out of that formation can be ran out of the gun/spread. Power, Iso, Counter, etc.

I don't pretend to be an X's and O's guy, didn't play enough Madden to qualify, but what I do know after watching for so many years, and hearing from and talking to actual players, is that it makes no difference what scheme you run, what matters s having the talent to run that scheme, execute it better than the opponent, call the right play at the right time.

And according to these, the concepts and formations we have seen is nothing new, nor innovative, and its basic principles are still the same as they were when George Halas first walked the sideline for the Bears. It's just window dressing

What I find funny is this close minded attitude towards the "pro style offense" as if it doesn't work, or it's a relic. Last I checked it's worked today, just like lining up in the gun works today as well. All that matters is talent and execution regardless of formation


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[Fzac75]

Honestly this is an outdated postion in college football. Unless we have Herndon back there creating mismatches in the passing game and another athletic tight end on the field or receiver I would like to see less of this position on the field tbh

It's outdated until someone see it as a mismatch and burns the opposing team with it...

It cant be too outdated, Bama winning with the i-formation as its base offense. You may have meant that its not a fulltime position anymore.

Miami is not Bama. What works for Bama doesn't necessarily work for Miami.

And Bama is getting away from that stuff and moving towards the spread. They were primarily a spread offense last season.

This is true Miami's offense was more explosive in our prime than Bama


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[ghost2]

And the '83 championship team had a walk-on FB (Albert Bentley) like we may have with Washington being discussed....

The 1983 '87 or 2001 national champion relics of UM would like to have a word with you, along side other recent national champions who have used fullbacks as part their personnel packages


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Did these guys actually use championships from over 30+ years ago to actually help prove my point? You do understand that at those times it made sense but the game of football has evolved right? Anyway like ghost said he probably wont be on field enough anyway and with how guarded practices have been Pete has got to make articles on something so its no biggie.

I didn't know the 2001 team was 30 years ago or those Baka teams either. Point being when you have the talent you can use all kinds of personnel packages, and there is nothing wrong with having a package that employs the fullback/h-back. It's called being versatile


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Being versatile for the sake of being versatile is usually a fail. We did that garbage last year. I don't remember what game it was but we looked like our OC was calling his plays by rolling the dice. We were in 21 personnel one play then 10 personnel the next.

Usually when you try to be good at a bunch of different ****, you end up not excelling in anything, you just end up being mediocre at a bunch of different ****. (rather than being great at one thing)

IMO there's really no reason to get under center and run traditional Pro Sets. Any play that we wanna run out of that formation can be ran out of the gun/spread. Power, Iso, Counter, etc.

The bolded part is what drove me crazy with James Coley as well. Our offense needs an identity. I think Richt has one in mind (spread with elements of RPO) but we couldn't execute it well, which is why you saw more of the 21 and playaction-based stuff that Kaaya was more comfortable with.

 

[DTP]

A walk-on fullback who will probably see the field less than 5 times a game is really hurting a lot of people's feelings here. Just because you have a fullback on the roster, doesn't mean you're lining up in the I every down trying to run iso. I'm hoping we don't have to throw so many fade patterns from the 2 yard line because we have no power running game in short yardage situations. That's the only reason they should need a fullback. 1st and goal from the one should be an easy touchdown. We've had to rely on throwing the ball inside the five yard line way too often the last few years.