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JayCane20 said:
I'd be so rich in today's environment if I had a recording of Rick Stockstill when I told him I was going to medically retire from football and focus on baseball because of how many concussions I had.

I got absolutely dog walked in his office. Never been degraded so badly in my life to this day. Didn't bother me then and still doesn't. It's a different world just over 10 years later.
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You’d be able to bankroll our next coaching search 😂
 
More context is needed overall here and I honestly can't gauge if Kiffin is the type of guy to handle this stuff correctly because I've seen him show both meathead tendencies and "progressive" ones too but there might end up being some credibility to what this dude's assessment is as well:

 
Rellyrell said:
Several things, & I say this as someone who doesn’t think the world of Kiffin:

1. As someone who was a victim of biased recordings from an ex wife who only recorded my reaction to her being hella disrespectful, I need to know the full context of the conversation

2. It appears ole boy recorded Kiffin at his absolute last straw w/ him, since it was heard the coaches has been reaching out to him for over a month w/ no response.

3. Hiding behind “mental health” has become the biggest slippery slope in athletics. While coaches have now had to pivot the way they treat certain situations, that does not excuse a player, staff members to go AWOL w/ no communication.

4. I’m in total agreement w/ Kiffin, not necessarily how he worded it, but if coaches are constantly asking to meet & u blow them off, u’re off the team. Furthermore, we have no idea if this is a repeat behavior.

5. When we’ve had kids who had to retire or sit out the season for mental health issues, guess what? That was communicated by the player or his representative to the staff so everyone was on the same page.

I’m sick & f’ing tired of this soft shouldered society, & I hate rats like this who wanna muddy & prejudice ppl to side w/ them w/o providing the full scope of the convo, just what sounds the worst in their favor.
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on point 2- yeah that's my opinion on how it went. Best guess- the player went radio silent for a couple weeks and coaches didn't know if he was gone for mental health or dead in a swamp. They are p1ssed. When he decides to return to the team he gets told he's on thin ice for disappearing like that, he thinks the coaches are out of line for questioning his time off for mental health and tells other players that. Word gets back to coaches, Kiffin calls him to his office, and kid secretly records Kiffin screaming at him after the player tells Kiffin he isn't obligated to tell coaches when he needs to step away for mental health issues.

If that wasn't the scenario, the player would have released the entire conversation, not just the snippet where it sounds like Kiffin is threatening him over his mental health.
 
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Tad Footeball said:
More context is needed overall here and I honestly can't gauge if Kiffin is the type of guy to handle this stuff correctly because I've seen him show both meathead tendencies and "progressive" ones too but there might end up being some credibility to what this dude's assessment is as well:

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Here is more context. Bottom line, Kiffin could have used less profane language but it doesn't look to me like he dismissed the kids mental health issues.



On Feb. 27, 2023, Rollins met with Kiffin, who informed Rollins he was moving from defensive tackle to the scout team's offensive line because he wouldn't transfer. According to the lawsuit, Rollins asked Kiffin if this was "a choice or a command." Rollins alleged that Kiffin told him "if he didn't like it, then he should quit."

At that point, Rollins told Kiffin he was going to take "a mental break," according to the lawsuit.

Rollins, despite repeated requests from the football staff, didn't meet again with Kiffin until March 21. During the meeting, Rollins legally recorded Kiffin without his knowledge, and a copy of the transcript was included in the lawsuit. ESPN obtained a copy of the audio in September.

"Ok, you have a f---ing head coach. This is a job. Guess what? If I have mental issues -- and I'm not diminishing them -- I can't not see my f---ing boss," Kiffin said, according to the lawsuit and the audio recording. "When you were told again and again the head coach needs to see you, [it] wasn't to make you practice, [it] wasn't to play a position you don't f---ing want to, OK? It was to talk to you and explain to you in the real world, OK? So I don't give a f--- what your mom [says], OK, or what you think in the real f---ing world, you show up to work. And then you say, 'Hey, I have mental issues. I can't do anything for two weeks. But if you change my position I won't have mental issues.'

"I guarantee if we f---ing called you in and said you're playing defense, would you have mental issues?"

Answered Rollins: "I definitely would."

During the audio exchange, Rollins is heard saying, "I mean, you're acting like my issues aren't real."

"I didn't say they're not real," Kiffin responded. "You show up when your head -- when your boss -- wants to meet with you. It wouldn't have been like this ... if you would've come here when you kept getting messages [that] the head coach wants to talk to you. And you say, 'I'm not ready to talk to him.'"

Said Rollins: "I wasn't."

"What f---ing world do you live in?" Kiffin asked.

Answered Rollins: "I don't see why you have to be disrespectful, honestly."

"Get out of here," Kiffin said. "Go. You're off the team. You're done. See ya. Go. And guess what? We can kick you off the team. So go read your f---ing rights about mental health. We can kick you off the team for not showing up. When the head coach asks to meet with you and you don't show up for weeks, we can remove you from the team.

"It's called being a p---y. It's called hiding behind s--- and not showing up to work."

www.espn.com

Kiffin, Ole Miss ask to dismiss player's $40M suit

Attorneys for Ole Miss and football coach Lane Kiffin filed a motion in court to dismiss a $40 million lawsuit a player filed against them in September.
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This seems like a whole lot of nothing. Honestly if you just don’t show up for 2 weeks and don’t answer callls/messages to meet with the Hc, that sounds like quit quitting to me lol.
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
Here is more context. Bottom line, Kiffin could have used less profane language but it doesn't look to me like he dismissed the kids mental health issues.



On Feb. 27, 2023, Rollins met with Kiffin, who informed Rollins he was moving from defensive tackle to the scout team's offensive line because he wouldn't transfer. According to the lawsuit, Rollins asked Kiffin if this was "a choice or a command." Rollins alleged that Kiffin told him "if he didn't like it, then he should quit."

At that point, Rollins told Kiffin he was going to take "a mental break," according to the lawsuit.

Rollins, despite repeated requests from the football staff, didn't meet again with Kiffin until March 21. During the meeting, Rollins legally recorded Kiffin without his knowledge, and a copy of the transcript was included in the lawsuit. ESPN obtained a copy of the audio in September.

"Ok, you have a f---ing head coach. This is a job. Guess what? If I have mental issues -- and I'm not diminishing them -- I can't not see my f---ing boss," Kiffin said, according to the lawsuit and the audio recording. "When you were told again and again the head coach needs to see you, [it] wasn't to make you practice, [it] wasn't to play a position you don't f---ing want to, OK? It was to talk to you and explain to you in the real world, OK? So I don't give a f--- what your mom [says], OK, or what you think in the real f---ing world, you show up to work. And then you say, 'Hey, I have mental issues. I can't do anything for two weeks. But if you change my position I won't have mental issues.'

"I guarantee if we f---ing called you in and said you're playing defense, would you have mental issues?"

Answered Rollins: "I definitely would."

During the audio exchange, Rollins is heard saying, "I mean, you're acting like my issues aren't real."

"I didn't say they're not real," Kiffin responded. "You show up when your head -- when your boss -- wants to meet with you. It wouldn't have been like this ... if you would've come here when you kept getting messages [that] the head coach wants to talk to you. And you say, 'I'm not ready to talk to him.'"

Said Rollins: "I wasn't."

"What f---ing world do you live in?" Kiffin asked.

Answered Rollins: "I don't see why you have to be disrespectful, honestly."

"Get out of here," Kiffin said. "Go. You're off the team. You're done. See ya. Go. And guess what? We can kick you off the team. So go read your f---ing rights about mental health. We can kick you off the team for not showing up. When the head coach asks to meet with you and you don't show up for weeks, we can remove you from the team.

"It's called being a p---y. It's called hiding behind s--- and not showing up to work."

www.espn.com

Kiffin, Ole Miss ask to dismiss player's $40M suit

Attorneys for Ole Miss and football coach Lane Kiffin filed a motion in court to dismiss a $40 million lawsuit a player filed against them in September.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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that is true stephen colbert GIF by Obama
 
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Look, I don't blame kiffin, but that exchange gets him fired in corporate America. The last sentence especially.

We can sit here and talk about society, being soft, etc. I won't argue on that. Kid probably has a history. But even if he does, you unfortunately can't take the approach kiffin just did. Just the world we live in
 
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It's honestly nothing but it's 2023 so I could see the media making a big deal about this and going after Kiffin. Not to mention the kid has a 40 million dollar lawsuit against the school.
 
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The 40 million $$$ lawsuit filed against the university by the player speaks volumes to me. As usual, Lane’s leaked comment is being used without consideration of the entire circumstances that led to Lane’s comment.

Context matters.
 
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