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Lazy uninspired play isn't the product of the system. It's a bi product of lazy uninspired players. We understand we have several holes to still fill. Safety I've screamed from the mountain tops is a huge issue. Jaden Harris shouldn't be on the field. We need zaquan to finally adjust(he's been looking a lot better the last few weeks). Jadais Richard's shouldn't see the field from anywhere except the sideline. Until someone steps up to take his place, we have an issue. Honestly I'd rather see Jadais Richard's get a shot at safety then corner(not a perfect fit in the least) I see his skill set making a lot more sense in the box. Our linebackers well two of them being wed & Kiko have the same skill set & struggle mainly in pass protection. Wee I think is simply a lil too heavy while Kiko doesn't transition as easily due to his footwork. He's also playing through an upper extremity issue.


My only issue with guidry is his lack of understanding when it relates to personnel issues. For instance that touchdown last week to brooks over the middle. We dropped everyone into coverage and sent just 3 off the line. Unless we're in quarters, that's simply a hole bunch of dudes who aren't comfortable with each other and assignment football. It's clear as day there's no confidence in several people. That's never gonna work without getting heavy pressure on the QB. This defense is reliant on pressuring the passer. Without that this secondary will simply get picked apart or called for dumb *** penalties.
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Brooklyndee said:
Lazy uninspired play isn't the product of the system. It's a bi product of lazy uninspired players. We understand we have several holes to still fill. Safety I've screamed from the mountain tops is a huge issue. Jaden Harris shouldn't be on the field. We need zaquan to finally adjust(he's been looking a lot better the last few weeks). Jadais Richard's shouldn't see the field from anywhere except the sideline. Until someone steps up to take his place, we have an issue. Honestly I'd rather see Jadais Richard's get a shot at safety then corner(not a perfect fit in the least) I see his skill set making a lot more sense in the box. Our linebackers well two of them being wed & Kiko have the same skill set & struggle mainly in pass protection. Wee I think is simply a lil too heavy while Kiko doesn't transition as easily due to his footwork. He's also playing through an upper extremity issue.


My only issue with guidry is his lack of understanding when it relates to personnel issues. For instance that touchdown last week to brooks over the middle. We dropped everyone into coverage and sent just 3 off the line. Unless we're in quarters, that's simply a hole bunch of dudes who aren't comfortable with each other and assignment football. It's clear as day there's no confidence in several people. That's never gonna work without getting heavy pressure on the QB. This defense is reliant on pressuring the passer. Without that this secondary will simply get picked apart or called for dumb *** penalties.
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All of this!!!!
 
Brooklyndee said:
Lazy uninspired play isn't the product of the system. It's a bi product of lazy uninspired players. We understand we have several holes to still fill. Safety I've screamed from the mountain tops is a huge issue. Jaden Harris shouldn't be on the field. We need zaquan to finally adjust(he's been looking a lot better the last few weeks). Jadais Richard's shouldn't see the field from anywhere except the sideline. Until someone steps up to take his place, we have an issue. Honestly I'd rather see Jadais Richard's get a shot at safety then corner(not a perfect fit in the least) I see his skill set making a lot more sense in the box. Our linebackers well two of them being wed & Kiko have the same skill set & struggle mainly in pass protection. Wee I think is simply a lil too heavy while Kiko doesn't transition as easily due to his footwork. He's also playing through an upper extremity issue.


My only issue with guidry is his lack of understanding when it relates to personnel issues. For instance that touchdown last week to brooks over the middle. We dropped everyone into coverage and sent just 3 off the line. Unless we're in quarters, that's simply a hole bunch of dudes who aren't comfortable with each other and assignment football. It's clear as day there's no confidence in several people. That's never gonna work without getting heavy pressure on the QB. This defense is reliant on pressuring the passer. Without that this secondary will simply get picked apart or called for dumb *** penalties.
@SWFLHurricane
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On offense, the qb can work extra with wrs and the tight ends to gain trust/comfortability and cohesion. What can the defensive backs realistically do outside of practice to gain trust and cohesion? More film and practicing after hours against pass skelly? Thanks for the perspective
 
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Brooklyndee said:
Lazy uninspired play isn't the product of the system. It's a bi product of lazy uninspired players. We understand we have several holes to still fill. Safety I've screamed from the mountain tops is a huge issue. Jaden Harris shouldn't be on the field. We need zaquan to finally adjust(he's been looking a lot better the last few weeks). Jadais Richard's shouldn't see the field from anywhere except the sideline. Until someone steps up to take his place, we have an issue. Honestly I'd rather see Jadais Richard's get a shot at safety then corner(not a perfect fit in the least) I see his skill set making a lot more sense in the box. Our linebackers well two of them being wed & Kiko have the same skill set & struggle mainly in pass protection. Wee I think is simply a lil too heavy while Kiko doesn't transition as easily due to his footwork. He's also playing through an upper extremity issue.


My only issue with guidry is his lack of understanding when it relates to personnel issues. For instance that touchdown last week to brooks over the middle. We dropped everyone into coverage and sent just 3 off the line. Unless we're in quarters, that's simply a hole bunch of dudes who aren't comfortable with each other and assignment football. It's clear as day there's no confidence in several people. That's never gonna work without getting heavy pressure on the QB. This defense is reliant on pressuring the passer. Without that this secondary will simply get picked apart or called for dumb *** penalties.
@SWFLHurricane
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You singled out 2 players but in 2 years I have yet to see good secondary play. Porter was avoided last year because everyone else was open. This year OJ is being avoided. That makes it hard to truly know what we have.
 
Yall were just suckin his peepee last year. 🙄
Stop it.

He does NOT suck.
Could he have done a few things differently? Sure. But that's every Coordinator.
We need better players in the backend.
It's not his fault when Porter gets beat on an out-route while already having outside leverage. That's Jimmies & Joes not X's & O's.

Yall were making the same threads about Dawson last season.
 
OldhamA said:
I just watched the Louisville highlights back - they're actually not that far away from being a good defence. Well good in relation to the O scoring on pretty much every drive.

So many missed tackles with players in position, or dumb flags it's infuriating.
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I think it can become a good enough unit that takes some off the offenses plate. Top 40-50ish. The defensive line is too good not to and the run defense has been respectable.

Think back to last year when our DL depth was shot and struggling going into Clemson and we inserted Bain. He had played before then but he was fully inserted and took off. That was game 7 on October 21.

This year.. game 8 on October 26... similar talent coming out.. top 100 player (higher if on3 didn't shaft him), position of need, physically ready, etc. If he can step in and be something similar to what Bain did last year. Different positions and that is asking a lot. But a very similar situation.

Adding to that, Bain stepped in against Clemson, played a good NCST team a few week later, top 5 FSU after that, top 10 Louisville after that. The ask for Patterson is a lot less. It's 1-6 FSU, Duke who struggles offensively, a competent GT team, a bye week, sorry Wake Forest, and the toughest challenge is Syracuse.

Also add in Damari around the Wake game. The holes could be filled. At the very least you plug Damari into the nickel, Porter goes back to the boundary and you get a solid unit there with him and OJ and a little depth pushing everyone else back, and then the tackling is going to improve and you get some security on the backend.
 
So frustrating to see the Defense regress so much when the DL is so much better than last year. Looks like all those people that didnt like Kam and JW back there sure are missing them now. Yes they gambled but they didnt have this many breakdowns and silly ish.

I get it its not madden but trotting out the same 4 in the same positions just hoping it will change 7 games in now is insanity. Try something FFS.

Richards was being cross trained at safety, get him out of CB, can he take Meesh spot and Meesh can go to the star position or Damari when he is healthy so DPJ can get back to boundary where he looked better. OJ can man the other CB spot with Hill and get Quan in for Harris. Its at least different and may have people back closer to the positions they are most comfortable.
 
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Yall were just suckin his peepee last year. 🙄
Stop it.

He does NOT suck.
Could he have done a few things differently? Sure. But that's every Coordinator.
We need better players in the backend.
It's not his fault when Porter gets beat on an out-route while already having outside leverage. That's Jimmies & Joes not X's & O's.

Yall were making the same threads about Dawson last
coffeecane said:
Until we get some CBs we are gonna struggle. Not getting enough pressure anymore to cover them up.
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It's not the CB's that are getting killed though.
 
Coach Macho said:
Yall were just suckin his peepee last year. 🙄
Stop it.

He does NOT suck.
Could he have done a few things differently? Sure. But that's every Coordinator.
We need better players in the backend.
It's not his fault when Porter gets beat on an out-route while already having outside leverage. That's Jimmies & Joes not X's & O's.

Yall were making the same threads about Dawson last season.
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Again we also held them to 3/12 on 3rd down. And all our previous games, our downfall was 100% related to allowing big plays too often. Broken tackles, falling for misdirection, not having contain, poor pursuit from LBs... All that led to giving up a lot of easy points. But there was also a lot of us having good Defense inbetween. If we just stopped allowing MULTIPLE 50 yard plays every game, then our defense would be fine. And when our offense is this elite, that is good enough imo. **** if they allowed how many big plays they've been allowing BUT significantly increased the amount of forced turnovers or something, I wouldn't even be complaining about that AS MUCH. It'd still be bad, but the result of more turnover at the expense of more big plays given up would suit our offense just fine.

Anything that leads to giving our offense more posessions, while our defense holds opposing offenses to 3 or less on their drives more often, increases our likelihood of winning.
 
Brooklyndee said:
Lazy uninspired play isn't the product of the system. It's a bi product of lazy uninspired players. We understand we have several holes to still fill. Safety I've screamed from the mountain tops is a huge issue. Jaden Harris shouldn't be on the field. We need zaquan to finally adjust(he's been looking a lot better the last few weeks). Jadais Richard's shouldn't see the field from anywhere except the sideline. Until someone steps up to take his place, we have an issue. Honestly I'd rather see Jadais Richard's get a shot at safety then corner(not a perfect fit in the least) I see his skill set making a lot more sense in the box. Our linebackers well two of them being wed & Kiko have the same skill set & struggle mainly in pass protection. Wee I think is simply a lil too heavy while Kiko doesn't transition as easily due to his footwork. He's also playing through an upper extremity issue.


My only issue with guidry is his lack of understanding when it relates to personnel issues. For instance that touchdown last week to brooks over the middle. We dropped everyone into coverage and sent just 3 off the line. Unless we're in quarters, that's simply a hole bunch of dudes who aren't comfortable with each other and assignment football. It's clear as day there's no confidence in several people. That's never gonna work without getting heavy pressure on the QB. This defense is reliant on pressuring the passer. Without that this secondary will simply get picked apart or called for dumb *** penalties.
@SWFLHurricane
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Been saying this about Jadais going to Safety. I'm not going to scream it because I can see the hesitation with his tackling but it makes sense on the surface. I would imagine they have a grasp on it if they're not trying it and there's a reason. Maybe it's just Damari being out and not having numbers at the boundary.

Zaquan showed me enough in 2 plays. Obviously the catch by the tight end where he laid the wood in open space and popped the ball. Incomplete but probably should/could have been a fumble. Put his head right in there. Harris hasn't even been close to the right position to make a play like that since the first couple of games. Second, less known play against UL where they ran a screen to the boundary, very similar to the one that 7 missed against Cal that popped for a big play or TD. 7 over pursued and let his feet get stuck in the mud and let the RB bounce it back to the inside of him. Against UL, 20 kept his feet moving and kept the inside angle sealed as the last line of defense and forced him to the sideline and got him out of bounds. Gained yards but it was 8-10 instead of 40-50. That's the difference in our defense being serviceable and being gashed.

7 can play when you put him in and let him blitz or tell him exactly what to do and take thinking out of it. Which obviously won't get very far. But you can get away with him playing rotationally and in situations and then getting him off the field and coaching him a little before he goes back out there. When he has to think 10-12 plays in a row they're going to bait him into something and expose him.
 
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Coach Macho said:
Yall were just suckin his peepee last year. 🙄
Stop it.

He does NOT suck.
Could he have done a few things differently? Sure. But that's every Coordinator.
We need better players in the backend.
It's not his fault when Porter gets beat on an out-route while already having outside leverage. That's Jimmies & Joes not X's & O's.

Yall were making the same threads about Dawson last

It's not the CB's that are getting killed though.
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You're right. Should have said DBs.
 
Coach Macho said:
Yall were just suckin his peepee last year. 🙄
Stop it.

He does NOT suck.
Could he have done a few things differently? Sure. But that's every Coordinator.
We need better players in the backend.
It's not his fault when Porter gets beat on an out-route while already having outside leverage. That's Jimmies & Joes not X's & O's.

Yall were making the same threads about Dawson last season.
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Exactly...everyone was all over Dawson...upgrade in talent aka the right jimmy and Joes and significant upgrade.
 
Keep in mind, we also don't know what goes on inside of the building. Some of these kids that y'all want on the field may not know the plays, might show up to meetings late, might not be coachable, etc. Trust me, I deal with similar issues almost every week.

"Coach, why isn't so-and-so starting?"

I've got a D1 committed Linebacker sitting on the bench right now!
 
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cway313 said:
You singled out 2 players but in 2 years I have yet to see good secondary play. Porter was avoided last year because everyone else was open. This year OJ is being avoided. That makes it hard to truly know what we have.
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I singled out two players cause what happened prior to this year isn't relevant. No need to tie in factors that confuse the issue at hand. Personnel is our issue at the moment. Our younger guys simply need time to develop. That shouldn't make it hard to know what we have by the way. It should make it obvious exactly what we have, or don't have better yet. You guys knew we needed more talent at corner. Mario knows that as well. You can only get the players willing to sign. That's how that works. We knew safeties were a weakness. We knew lb was a question. We have talent at all of those positions overall and are acquiring far more. But it requires allowing them the time to develope. Hopefully we can make it all line up.
 
Coach Macho said:
Yall were just suckin his peepee last year. 🙄
Stop it.

He does NOT suck.
Could he have done a few things differently? Sure. But that's every Coordinator.
We need better players in the backend.
It's not his fault when Porter gets beat on an out-route while already having outside leverage. That's Jimmies & Joes not X's & O's.

Yall were making the same threads about Dawson last season.
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It's wild ain't it! How they just flip back and forth on everyone from one play to the next.
 
Coach Macho said:
Yall were just suckin his peepee last year. 🙄
Stop it.

He does NOT suck.
Could he have done a few things differently? Sure. But that's every Coordinator.
We need better players in the backend.
It's not his fault when Porter gets beat on an out-route while already having outside leverage. That's Jimmies & Joes not X's & O's.

Yall were making the same threads about Dawson last

It's not the CB's that are getting killed though.
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Well Richard's definitely does. But like I said all off-season, safety was by far my biggest concern. Seeing that play out weekly.
 
Brooklyndee said:
Well Richard's definitely does. But like I said all off-season, safety was by far my biggest concern. Seeing that play out weekly.
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Where would we be right now if Kam returned for his Sr year? Or ****.. even James Williams? I know this is a Guidry thread, but I might as well add Cohen too.

Those 3 would've made a huge difference.
 
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