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OrangeBowlMagic said:
KJ Jefferson in 2021 and 2022 was actually in a very similar situation as he'd be here.

Playing for an OL centered head coach, who has hired a coach somewhat unorthodox to what he knows to call his offense.

Pittman hiring Briles and Mario hiring Dawson.

In those 2 years:

2021 -- KJ was 9th in the country in passer rating. Better than Jordan Travis, Will Levis, Tyler Van Dyke, Sam Howell, Desmond Ridder, Aidan O'Connell, and Kenny Pickett. That's the 2 state QBs plus 5 NFL starters.
-- 9th in the country in yards per attempt. That's better than Bryce Young, Matt Corral, and all the guys I mentioned above. Only names above him include Stroud, Bennett, Hooker, Caleb Williams
-- 15th in the country in completion percentage. Again better than Bryce Young, Pickett, Levis, etc
-- He also ran for 664 yards, which is over 50 per game, with 6 TDs. Accounted for 27 TDs overall with only 4 INTs in 13 games. In the SEC West.

2022 -- KJ was 6th in the country in passer rating. Better than Drake Maye, JJ McCarthy, Jordan Travis, Max Duggan, Sam Hartman, and Stetson Bennett.
-- 20th in the country in yards per attempt. Better than McCarthy, DTR, Michael Penix Jr, Will Levis, etc
-- 8th in the country in completion percentage. Better than Jayden Daniels, Clayton Tune, and CJ Stroud
-- He also ran for 640 yards, which is over 58 per game, with 9 TDs. Accounted for 31 TDs with only 4 INTs in 10 games. In the SEC West.

In 2023, Briles moved on to TCU, and Arkansas hired a guy named Daniel Enos. I've never heard of him, but apparently he's not the best coordinator known to man. Who knew? Jefferson's numbers sunk, and he got hurt multiple times.

Make no mistake, this kid is a good football player. No, he's not an NFL passer. But he can ABSOLUTELY get the job done in this scheme, with this OL, this defense, and these weapons. No doubt about it.

And this is probably my single favorite thing about him and why I feel he'd be successful here:

Everybody thinks he sucks.

I LOVE that. The average person who gives their opinion and is really vocal about this stuff went to pre-first grade. If the average person hates him, that means he's actually really good. Because the average person is a ******* moron. (PS you’re entitled to not think he’s great. He’s in the portal. Very few kids there are great. They almost always have warts. I just think the majority of people who are yelling from the rooftops that he sucks didn’t actually watch him play. If you did and you’ve studied him and you say he’s useless, consider your opinion respected. I disagree.)

If we miss on Ward, sign me up for this kid. He would excel in this offense. He's basically what we all want Jacurri Brown to be. Big, mobile, accurate, experienced, tough, can run and throw, and he's 24 years old. We need some adults in that room. The last one we had was basically a mute. Someone who can come in and show Emory and Judd how to work, and also, maybe bringing this guy in helps keep Jacurri. Who better to continue to learn under than a **** carbon copy of the player you're trying to be?

He's been successful, and most adult helmet wearers tell me he stinks. Sign me up.
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KJ is good. Did very well in the MIGHTY SEC I would take him in a heart beat also makes me think the red zone troubles will be gone. Who u wanna tackle 22 or him both huge. KJ was my pick from the beginning. If Ward wants to keep ******* around get KJ and call it and let’s focus on other portal guys with the money u save not getting ward
 
WestGA'Cane said:
Bruce is cool with me. Put me on the air for his Sunday night 'Canes show on WQAM back in the early '90's. Management didn't want the young guys on the air, but Bruce put us on anyway. Shout out to you Bruce! Hope you're well!
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I always like Bruce. I find him entertaining
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FromDeeeeep said:
Dawson also modified his offense for TVD before the NC St game. It was talked about during the BC broadcast.

If he could make the necessary modifications during the season, I don’t see why he couldn’t for KJ in the 9 months before the 2024 kickoff. It’s not rocket science.

1. Watch KJ tape (from Briles to Enos to the Interim OC)
2. Talk with KJ. Find out what he is comfortable with/likes doing scheme wise
3. Built offense accordingly

Let’s be honest the Briles is not like learning the Bill Walsh west coast offense in 1980s.
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KJ would run what Clayton Tune did. Tune was hot trash and Dawson still got everything out of him.
 
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5NC4 said:
KJ would run what Clayton Tune did. Tune was hot trash and Dawson still got everything out of him.
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Good point. I knew Thune played under Dawson but didn’t remember the offense until looking up highlights
 
Cam Ward > KJ Jefferson > Will Howard > everyone we currently have in the roster.

Jefferson and Howard are practically the same players but Jefferson has done it better against tougher competition. He’s not an NFL passer but either is Howard. Anyone banging the table for Howard but saying no to Jefferson doesn’t know ****.
 
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DTP said:
Cam Ward > KJ Jefferson > Will Howard > everyone we currently have in the roster.

Jefferson and Howard are practically the same players but Jefferson has done it better against tougher competition. He’s not an NFL passer but either is Howard. Anyone banging the table for Howard but saying no to Jefferson doesn’t know ****.
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Ivan The Terrible said:
I’m sorry but if he’s the option I rather go with Jacurri next season. JB is KJ with out the experience.
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KJ Jefferson has 38 starts in the SEC and is a 64% career passer, 68% at his peak with a career 3:1 TD:INT, with his peak being almost 5:1 with a career average of 8.2 ypa with a career best of 9.1.

I think I can say confidently, that the liklihood of Jacurri Brown hitting those numbers is like under 10%.

When Jefferson had Kendal Briles calling plays for him, he was one of the best QBs in the country. We all know he's probably not a top prospect as a pro, but as a college player, he's quite good.

Yall really are killing KJ because he had Dangerous Dan Enos as his OC last year. Relax with that.

If Cam Ward don't want in and KJ does...we'd be just fine. Everyone loves him as a teammate, too.
 
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BoxingRobes said:
When Jefferson had Kendal Briles calling plays for him, he was one of the best QBs in the country. We all know he's probably not a top prospect as a pro, but as a college player, he's quite good.
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Yes, QBs do really well under the Briles V&S system.

That should be a red flag, not a source of confidence.
 
dukemv said:
IMO it's a bad take thinking KJ wouldn't be successful here behind a solid OL given the tricks he pulled out of his hat 2 y ago and last year w/ Enos
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People have locked themselves into thinking only Ward can be successful here. I mean we all want him but he aint the only one. KJ played in the SEC and say whst u want but draft day doesnt lie. And not like he was on one of the tradition elites of the conference
 
People don’t appreciate just his alien the Veer and Snoot is to the rest of what’s run in college football.

You here NFL people say it all the time. That these Baylor-Tenn guys literally don’t know how to play football. They can’t even run a route.

RGIII talked about how he didn’t even have a playbook at Baylor.
Herndon Hooker didn’t even try to deny the criticism last year, he just emphasized how other systems don’t require you to throw the ball downfield as much, so draft me based on my arm.

Pointing to what a QB did in an offense that basically doesn’t have you playing “QB” within any meaningful sense of the word, is saying nothing. And it tells you nothing about how they would perform outside of that offense.

In the end, we saw Hooker outside of the Veer. It wasn’t good.
We saw Jefferson outside of the Veer, it wasn’t good.
 
mossmadness said:
People don’t appreciate just his alien the Veer and Snoot is to the rest of what’s run in college football.

You here NFL people say it all the time. That these Baylor-Tenn guys literally don’t know how to play football. They can’t even run a route.

RGIII talked about how he didn’t even have a playbook at Baylor.
Herndon Hooker didn’t even try to deny the criticism last year, he just emphasized how other systems don’t require you to throw the ball downfield as much, so draft me based on my arm.

Pointing to what a QB did in an offense that basically doesn’t have you playing “QB” within any meaningful sense of the word, is saying nothing. And it tells you nothing about how they would perform outside of that offense.

In the end, we saw Hooker outside of the Veer. It wasn’t good.
We saw Jefferson outside of the Veer, it wasn’t good.
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I get what you're saying but I think you're giving too much credit to Briles' system. It's not some miracle offense that makes bums into superstars. His QB play at TCU wasn't special this year nor was it at FSU. You have to have some type of talent to work with.

KJ went from Briles to the complete opposite end of the spectrum with Enos and his numbers dipped but he didn't completely fall off a cliff.

As long as whoever is calling plays isn't trying to keep him in the pocket with twenty two different options on every pass play, he'll be alright. The offense would have to rely on his running ability first and foremost and it would be the same thing with Howard.
 
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