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OrangeBowlMagic said:
KJ Jefferson in 2021 and 2022 was actually in a very similar situation as he'd be here.

Playing for an OL centered head coach, who has hired a coach somewhat unorthodox to what he knows to call his offense.

Pittman hiring Briles and Mario hiring Dawson.

In those 2 years:

2021 -- KJ was 9th in the country in passer rating. Better than Jordan Travis, Will Levis, Tyler Van Dyke, Sam Howell, Desmond Ridder, Aidan O'Connell, and Kenny Pickett. That's the 2 state QBs plus 5 NFL starters.
-- 9th in the country in yards per attempt. That's better than Bryce Young, Matt Corral, and all the guys I mentioned above. Only names above him include Stroud, Bennett, Hooker, Caleb Williams
-- 15th in the country in completion percentage. Again better than Bryce Young, Pickett, Levis, etc
-- He also ran for 664 yards, which is over 50 per game, with 6 TDs. Accounted for 27 TDs overall with only 4 INTs in 13 games. In the SEC West.

2022 -- KJ was 6th in the country in passer rating. Better than Drake Maye, JJ McCarthy, Jordan Travis, Max Duggan, Sam Hartman, and Stetson Bennett.
-- 20th in the country in yards per attempt. Better than McCarthy, DTR, Michael Penix Jr, Will Levis, etc
-- 8th in the country in completion percentage. Better than Jayden Daniels, Clayton Tune, and CJ Stroud
-- He also ran for 640 yards, which is over 58 per game, with 9 TDs. Accounted for 31 TDs with only 4 INTs in 10 games. In the SEC West.

In 2023, Briles moved on to TCU, and Arkansas hired a guy named Daniel Enos. I've never heard of him, but apparently he's not the best coordinator known to man. Who knew? Jefferson's numbers sunk, and he got hurt multiple times.

Make no mistake, this kid is a good football player. No, he's not an NFL passer. But he can ABSOLUTELY get the job done in this scheme, with this OL, this defense, and these weapons. No doubt about it.

And this is probably my single favorite thing about him and why I feel he'd be successful here:

Everybody thinks he sucks.

I LOVE that. The average person who gives their opinion and is really vocal about this stuff went to pre-first grade. If the average person hates him, that means he's actually really good. Because the average person is a ******* moron. (PS you’re entitled to not think he’s great. He’s in the portal. Very few kids there are great. They almost always have warts. I just think the majority of people who are yelling from the rooftops that he sucks didn’t actually watch him play. If you did and you’ve studied him and you say he’s useless, consider your opinion respected. I disagree.)

If we miss on Ward, sign me up for this kid. He would excel in this offense. He's basically what we all want Jacurri Brown to be. Big, mobile, accurate, experienced, tough, can run and throw, and he's 24 years old. We need some adults in that room. The last one we had was basically a mute. Someone who can come in and show Emory and Judd how to work, and also, maybe bringing this guy in helps keep Jacurri. Who better to continue to learn under than a **** carbon copy of the player you're trying to be?

He's been successful, and most adult helmet wearers tell me he stinks. Sign me up.
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This is the best argument I've seen made. Everyone taking a Dan Enos year and holding it against him. I'm guessing we win the ACC this past year with Jefferson instead of Van Dyke.

Gotta be cheaper than Ward too by a long shot.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Thread is going pretty much exactly how I thought it would and is making me even more certain that KJ would do really, really well here.
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KJ is XXL version of D’eriq King to me. While King was an electric runner, KJ is the big diesel.

Think he would kill it here with the OL and RBs that Miami has and allows Mario to play the bully ball that he probably dreams about.
 
Memnon said:
He's a solid dual threat QB, limited arm talent but is a big bodied physical bruiser as a runner.

I'm not sure he'd necessarily be an elevating factor; if we used him how Kendal Briles used him then we might have something. But I would suspect the Offense would remain fairly conservative with KJ because he leaves a lot to be desired as a passer in terms of making full field reads.

He'd be a QB that Mario loves, similar to what he had with Anthony Brown, he would help out the run game a lot, so if we're leaning into being a run heavy Offense he's a great fit.

But if we're looking for a QB that can put the team on his back & lead us to a 10+ win season & carry the Offense, I'm not so sure he's capable of that.

I would imagine he's a take if we miss on other options.
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Just looking at the numbers, why the fascination w/ Howard?

And for KJ, I'd watch TCU.
 
Rickd said:
Let's see, we have NO QB with any extensive starting experience. KJ has started 3 full seasons and has a completion % that ranged from 65-68%, one season his TD/INT was 24 / 5 and he also RAN for another 400 yards and 8 or more rushing TD's. Big, strong, mobile. WTF??? Sign him up TODAY. He will lead UM to a 10 or better win record with the schedule we have in 2024 and most likely ... finally ... the ACC Championship.
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Nah. Ain’t nobody tryna sign a 6’2 1/2 255 LB QB
We need someone who gunna take the game serious..I’m body shaming like bih..but if you looking sloppy playing the QB position at arky..and you talking about bringing that too the 305….🤬NO
 
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Only if we miss on Ward. We should be aiming higher.

But I wouldn’t be upset if we ended up with Jefferson. I think he’s a great leader and would do really well with us next year. Easily 9-10 wins. May end up with the same as with Ward but Ward has a ceiling of more than 10.
 
Slow release…Locks in

Many of his problems are because he doesn't feel pressure which shown this year as Hogs had their worst offensive line and offense in couple years. I've seen him just be totally oblivious that pressure is coming and take big shots. With our -line he could work out, though.

Powerful runner, big arm. makes good decision.
 
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This guy is not a bad option.... obviously not our first nor should he be... but comparing him to Ward/Howard is just silly. If we miss on those 2 dudes; sure this guy is still a great back up choice. If he was a better qb he would have more initial portal love than south carolina & UCF... but to think this guy isn't an improvement over emory or jacurri is wild. I love emory's heart as much as the next guy but people are too infatuated with it to see he's subpar.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
KJ Jefferson in 2021 and 2022 was actually in a very similar situation as he'd be here.

Playing for an OL centered head coach, who has hired a coach somewhat unorthodox to what he knows to call his offense.

Pittman hiring Briles and Mario hiring Dawson.

In those 2 years:

2021 -- KJ was 9th in the country in passer rating. Better than Jordan Travis, Will Levis, Tyler Van Dyke, Sam Howell, Desmond Ridder, Aidan O'Connell, and Kenny Pickett. That's the 2 state QBs plus 5 NFL starters.
-- 9th in the country in yards per attempt. That's better than Bryce Young, Matt Corral, and all the guys I mentioned above. Only names above him include Stroud, Bennett, Hooker, Caleb Williams
-- 15th in the country in completion percentage. Again better than Bryce Young, Pickett, Levis, etc
-- He also ran for 664 yards, which is over 50 per game, with 6 TDs. Accounted for 27 TDs overall with only 4 INTs in 13 games. In the SEC West.

2022 -- KJ was 6th in the country in passer rating. Better than Drake Maye, JJ McCarthy, Jordan Travis, Max Duggan, Sam Hartman, and Stetson Bennett.
-- 20th in the country in yards per attempt. Better than McCarthy, DTR, Michael Penix Jr, Will Levis, etc
-- 8th in the country in completion percentage. Better than Jayden Daniels, Clayton Tune, and CJ Stroud
-- He also ran for 640 yards, which is over 58 per game, with 9 TDs. Accounted for 31 TDs with only 4 INTs in 10 games. In the SEC West.

In 2023, Briles moved on to TCU, and Arkansas hired a guy named Daniel Enos. I've never heard of him, but apparently he's not the best coordinator known to man. Who knew? Jefferson's numbers sunk, and he got hurt multiple times.

Make no mistake, this kid is a good football player. No, he's not an NFL passer. But he can ABSOLUTELY get the job done in this scheme, with this OL, this defense, and these weapons. No doubt about it.

And this is probably my single favorite thing about him and why I feel he'd be successful here:

Everybody thinks he sucks.

I LOVE that. The average person who gives their opinion and is really vocal about this stuff went to pre-first grade. If the average person hates him, that means he's actually really good. Because the average person is a ******* moron. (PS you’re entitled to not think he’s great. He’s in the portal. Very few kids there are great. They almost always have warts. I just think the majority of people who are yelling from the rooftops that he sucks didn’t actually watch him play. If you did and you’ve studied him and you say he’s useless, consider your opinion respected. I disagree.)

If we miss on Ward, sign me up for this kid. He would excel in this offense. He's basically what we all want Jacurri Brown to be. Big, mobile, accurate, experienced, tough, can run and throw, and he's 24 years old. We need some adults in that room. The last one we had was basically a mute. Someone who can come in and show Emory and Judd how to work, and also, maybe bringing this guy in helps keep Jacurri. Who better to continue to learn under than a **** carbon copy of the player you're trying to be?

He's been successful, and most adult helmet wearers tell me he stinks. Sign me up.
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Mario’s offense is closer to Enos’ than it is to Briles’
 
I’m pretty sure KJ was unanimously considered (by writers and pundits) in the top 3 of returning SEC QB starters coming into his ENOS year. I’d be very happy with KJ.

***** Ward. Remember how being held up by TVD worked out for us last year? Let’s bring in a talented culture guy at the position and roll.
 
Jefferson excelled in an offense that used a ton of space and tempo with simple reads.

He doesn’t process the game quickly. There’s a reason every QB does well in the Briles offense.

What we run is so far from what Briles runs we might as well be wearing leather helmets.

You don’t put Jefferson in this system after he did so poorly in the non-Briles system.
 
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MikeCanes said:
The fact that so many porsters are against KJ is all I need to affirm that he’d absolutely kill it here.
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The fact that so many people are not paying attention and want him is not shocking. I hope he’s not the guy because I’m certain I’ll be pulling receipts in 10 months. He’s not the answer. The textbook example of that sometimes stats lie. Watch the film
 
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FromDeeeeep said:
KJ is XXL version of D’eriq King to me. While King was an electric runner, KJ is the big diesel.

Think he would kill it here with the OL and RBs that Miami has and allows Mario to play the bully ball that he probably dreams about.
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bull****

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OrangeBowlMagic said:
KJ Jefferson in 2021 and 2022 was actually in a very similar situation as he'd be here.

Playing for an OL centered head coach, who has hired a coach somewhat unorthodox to what he knows to call his offense.

Pittman hiring Briles and Mario hiring Dawson.

In those 2 years:

2021 -- KJ was 9th in the country in passer rating. Better than Jordan Travis, Will Levis, Tyler Van Dyke, Sam Howell, Desmond Ridder, Aidan O'Connell, and Kenny Pickett. That's the 2 state QBs plus 5 NFL starters.
-- 9th in the country in yards per attempt. That's better than Bryce Young, Matt Corral, and all the guys I mentioned above. Only names above him include Stroud, Bennett, Hooker, Caleb Williams
-- 15th in the country in completion percentage. Again better than Bryce Young, Pickett, Levis, etc
-- He also ran for 664 yards, which is over 50 per game, with 6 TDs. Accounted for 27 TDs overall with only 4 INTs in 13 games. In the SEC West.

2022 -- KJ was 6th in the country in passer rating. Better than Drake Maye, JJ McCarthy, Jordan Travis, Max Duggan, Sam Hartman, and Stetson Bennett.
-- 20th in the country in yards per attempt. Better than McCarthy, DTR, Michael Penix Jr, Will Levis, etc
-- 8th in the country in completion percentage. Better than Jayden Daniels, Clayton Tune, and CJ Stroud
-- He also ran for 640 yards, which is over 58 per game, with 9 TDs. Accounted for 31 TDs with only 4 INTs in 10 games. In the SEC West.

In 2023, Briles moved on to TCU, and Arkansas hired a guy named Daniel Enos. I've never heard of him, but apparently he's not the best coordinator known to man. Who knew? Jefferson's numbers sunk, and he got hurt multiple times.

Make no mistake, this kid is a good football player. No, he's not an NFL passer. But he can ABSOLUTELY get the job done in this scheme, with this OL, this defense, and these weapons. No doubt about it.

And this is probably my single favorite thing about him and why I feel he'd be successful here:

Everybody thinks he sucks.

I LOVE that. The average person who gives their opinion and is really vocal about this stuff went to pre-first grade. If the average person hates him, that means he's actually really good. Because the average person is a ******* moron. (PS you’re entitled to not think he’s great. He’s in the portal. Very few kids there are great. They almost always have warts. I just think the majority of people who are yelling from the rooftops that he sucks didn’t actually watch him play. If you did and you’ve studied him and you say he’s useless, consider your opinion respected. I disagree.)

If we miss on Ward, sign me up for this kid. He would excel in this offense. He's basically what we all want Jacurri Brown to be. Big, mobile, accurate, experienced, tough, can run and throw, and he's 24 years old. We need some adults in that room. The last one we had was basically a mute. Someone who can come in and show Emory and Judd how to work, and also, maybe bringing this guy in helps keep Jacurri. Who better to continue to learn under than a **** carbon copy of the player you're trying to be?

He's been successful, and most adult helmet wearers tell me he stinks. Sign me up.
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All aboard - if no Ward/Howard - sign me up because Numbers Don’t Lie.

Got a 2021 or 2022 highlight tape for this young man.
 
Ispyin said:
The fact that so many people are not paying attention and want him is not shocking. I hope he’s not the guy because I’m certain I’ll be pulling receipts in 10 months. He’s not the answer. The textbook example of that sometimes stats lie. Watch the film
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Deal. Keep this as a receipt.
 
CaneThang2020 said:
All aboard - if no Ward/Howard - sign me up because Numbers Don’t Lie.

Got a 2021 or 2022 highlight tape for this young man.
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Do we trust Dawson to adapt to KJ's strengths, applying some of the Briles concepts that helped KJ in 2021/2022?

I don't know enough to intelligently speak on the differences between the two offensive systems (Briles and Dawson).
 
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