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[Insanecane]

I love how he's the man from December through August but during the season most of y'all want him replaced. Don't get me wrong I love the guy. Dude recruits his butt off. Just like the ones that are on Rumph. He's the exact opposite kills it during the season. Then gets hammered December through August for his recruiting. When the truth lies somewhere in the middle for both of them.

How does Rumph kill it during the season?
by allowing Virginia, Pitt, Clemson, and Wisconsin QB's to look like Tom Brady against us?

Well he's taking kids that everybody thought was trash or cast off and turn them into draft eligible players. Texas did not want Coburn anymore he was a part time player at best there.Did you really see Michael Jackson turn into that kind of playe he has become. Carter and Jenkins became way better last year. Not to mention what he did the year before last with just a makeshift secondary. Come on you guys got to give credit where credit's due.

Colbert was a part time player here until an injury put him in the starting line up. Now, he played fairly well when given the opportunity but as a 5th year senior...I'd say Rumph's influence was minor.
Michael Jackson played well at times this season but was inconsistent enough that he is coming back.
Carter and Jenkins were seniors.

Not trying to bag, but when I watch our secondary I really see poor coaching. No press when we press, DB's not turning to find the ball, lots of knee diving with your head down instead of tackling, playing inside technique with no help in the middle. That is all poor technique as a result of poor coaching.

I see that shi* every game, including Bama, Clemson, UGA, OSU games, etc. That's called kids being kids. Our pass efficency defense was insane until we wore out in the final stretch. We still finished 18th, which is **** good, considering we played 5 CBs on the roster. Young and Jackson were also among the best in the country in terms of defensive efficiency against the pass.

This board just loves to shi* on its own team. Why would any kid want to come here and be subjected to this nonsense? Every other team in the top 10 in recruiting are creaming about their prospects. We're ranked 6th, and the fans here do nothing but troll and complain.

Did you bother to read the posts above. Nobody is talking about recruits. We are talking about Rumph as a coach. Comparing Bama's db technique to ours is laughable. Saban coaches DB's and he has those guys on point. Do they occasionally give up a pass? Yeah, but they don't give up easy first downs like we do. What was our defense's third down %? We couldn't get off the **** field all year due to poor passing defense. Once teams figured that out we were toast. Georgia? Yeah, their pass defense is fairly poor, but better than ours. Clemson? No comparison.

 

[Twin_Cane]

Do the coaches have meetings on how one coach is doing better than the other in recruiting?

Lol do the coaches have a meeting to see who is best at recruiting.. Lol does your job have a meeting and they power rank who is the best to the least employee.. Come on some of yall act like yall have never worked in a organization before. Comedy hour

I was being sarcastic

 

[SayWhat]

Insane, the big difference between Bama, Clemson, etc is their pass rush. They don't have to bring extra guys like we do and when we do it we fall back into zone. As the season progresses, teams saw this and our pass defense went to crap. Those defenses you mentioned are very talented and combined with aggressive play on the corner with help over the top, they are certainly going to look different. I'm not saying we have similar talent at the CB position either, but its more of a case of DL talent and poor Diaz schemes. I hate how he blitzes and has the corners 10 yards off the ball. You take a chance, go for broke. Granted, our corners are on the small side and the bigger receivers these days exploit that. Really, we aren't where we should be, but hopefully we can get there. I don't see a shutdown corner yet (roster or early commit), but I do see those bigger bodies coming in that can mix it up.

 

[dedostheibis]

Hartley may be our best recruiter.

Love that guy.

How would you "Currently" rank them?

Rather thank ranking them I'll put them in tiers.

"Elite" - Hartley, M Richt, Dugans

"Solid" - Rumph, Brown, Banda

"Mediocre" - Searels, Diaz

"Needs Improvement" - Kool

"Incomplete" - J Richt

Searles mediocre? Have u seen our class?

 

[gogeta4]

How Rumph is in the "solid" group i have NOOOO idea

 

[HurricaneVision]

Searles listed as mediocre is trolling. Plain old trolling.

It's actually not.

In my opinion it is. Anybody who lands Herbert, Scaife, Reed, & Donaldon in 2 years is better then mediocre. Simple as that.

What’s funny is Pete is saying Hillery is ahead of Herbert at this point. Hillery was scout POY over Herbert and others.

Part of recruiting is evaluating as well. If you fill the position with top notch players, you’re doing your job.


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Hillery might have been Scout team OPOY, but Herbert was listed as 2nd on the depth chart at LT all year. Had McDermott gotten hurt, he might have had his redshirt burned.

So maybe Herbert wasn't even paying as much scout team, because he was on the 2nd string unit.

This is fair. I was led to believe that Darling would actually move over to LT and they'd put Gaynor or Mahoney in at LG, but that could be totally inaccurate. I also thought that Brown was playing mostly second team, but a big disadvantage I have with news on the team is my location and not being able to see them practice.

I think you learn so much about a player by watching him practice. There were kids I'd see with far less talent than their peers that I just knew would zoom past them because of the way they practiced and prepared each day.

 

[407cane]

How Rumph is in the "solid" group i have NOOOO idea

our biggest concern going into the year was our secondary.

We had one of the best performing secondaries in the ACC, especially considering the lack of star talent

recruiting - Wait and see

 

[nystateofmind]

How Rumph is in the "solid" group i have NOOOO idea

our biggest concern going into the year was our secondary.

We had one of the best performing secondaries in the ACC, especially considering the lack of star talent

recruiting - Wait and see

Rumph is an elite coach.

 

[Calinative]

It's actually not.

In my opinion it is. Anybody who lands Herbert, Scaife, Reed, & Donaldon in 2 years is better then mediocre. Simple as that.

What’s funny is Pete is saying Hillery is ahead of Herbert at this point. Hillery was scout POY over Herbert and others.

Part of recruiting is evaluating as well. If you fill the position with top notch players, you’re doing your job.


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Hillery might have been Scout team OPOY, but Herbert was listed as 2nd on the depth chart at LT all year. Had McDermott gotten hurt, he might have had his redshirt burned.

So maybe Herbert wasn't even paying as much scout team, because he was on the 2nd string unit.

This is fair. I was led to believe that Darling would actually move over to LT and they'd put Gaynor or Mahoney in at LG, but that could be totally inaccurate. I also thought that Brown was playing mostly second team, but a big disadvantage I have with news on the team is my location and not being able to see them practice.

I think you learn so much about a player by watching him practice. There were kids I'd see with far less talent than their peers that I just knew would zoom past them because of the way they practiced and prepared each day.

I think you'd be right if like it was a small injury that they only needed a sub for like a drive, because they wouldn't want to burn the redshirt over some bs. But if McDermott got hurt and like was set to miss multiple weeks, then Herbert likely would have gotten pt.

George Brown Jr was our 2nd string RT.

It'll be interesting to see what we do at the OL this season, theres all kinds of combo's that realistically could happen, and we know for sure that Gauthier, Donaldson, and St Louis will be 3 of the starters. We just don't know where they will start. I'd bet on:

LT: Herbert > Hillery > Campbell
LG: Boulware > Scaife > Mahoney
C: Gauthier > Gaynor >
RG: Donaldson > Reed > Mahoney
RT: St Louis > Brown Jr > Campbell

 

[Deleted member 16870]

Hartley may be our best recruiter.

Love that guy.

How would you "Currently" rank them?

Rather thank ranking them I'll put them in tiers.

"Elite" - Hartley, M Richt, Dugans

"Solid" - Rumph, Brown, Banda

"Mediocre" - Searels, Diaz

"Needs Improvement" - Kool

"Incomplete" - J Richt

I completely agree with this

 

[BigCaneAl]

Hartley may be our best recruiter.

Love that guy.

How would you "Currently" rank them?

Rather thank ranking them I'll put them in tiers.

"Elite" - Hartley, M Richt, Dugans

"Solid" - Rumph, Brown, Banda

"Mediocre" - Searels, Diaz

"Needs Improvement" - Kool

"Incomplete" - J Richt

I completely agree with this

I think Searels should be "solid" and Rumph "mediocre".....hope that changes though for Rumph in about a week.

 

[Deleted member 16870]

Hartley may be our best recruiter.

Love that guy.

How would you "Currently" rank them?

Rather thank ranking them I'll put them in tiers.

"Elite" - Hartley, M Richt, Dugans

"Solid" - Rumph, Brown, Banda

"Mediocre" - Searels, Diaz

"Needs Improvement" - Kool

"Incomplete" - J Richt

I completely agree with this

I think Searels should be "solid" and Rumph "mediocre".....hope that changes though for Rumph in about a week.

I cant knock you for that. Patke will be a big time recruiter for us. Watch.

 

[L A M P]

UH OH

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[clarkyboy_21]

I have all the confidence that this staff is gonna have a HUGE close come NSD

 

[CBurrr93]

UH OH

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Probably about that OL from West Virginia

 

[brock]

UH OH

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Probably about that OL from West Virginia

For sure

 

[GR8]

UH OH

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[westcoastcanes]

I love how he's the man from December through August but during the season most of y'all want him replaced. Don't get me wrong I love the guy. Dude recruits his butt off. Just like the ones that are on Rumph. He's the exact opposite kills it during the season. Then gets hammered December through August for his recruiting. When the truth lies somewhere in the middle for both of them.

How does Rumph kill it during the season?
by allowing Virginia, Pitt, Clemson, and Wisconsin QB's to look like Tom Brady against us?

Well he's taking kids that everybody thought was trash or cast off and turn them into draft eligible players. Texas did not want Coburn anymore he was a part time player at best there.Did you really see Michael Jackson turn into that kind of playe he has become. Carter and Jenkins became way better last year. Not to mention what he did the year before last with just a makeshift secondary. Come on you guys got to give credit where credit's due.

Colbert was a part time player here until an injury put him in the starting line up. Now, he played fairly well when given the opportunity but as a 5th year senior...I'd say Rumph's influence was minor.
Michael Jackson played well at times this season but was inconsistent enough that he is coming back.
Carter and Jenkins were seniors.

Not trying to bag, but when I watch our secondary I really see poor coaching. No press when we press, DB's not turning to find the ball, lots of knee diving with your head down instead of tackling, playing inside technique with no help in the middle. That is all poor technique as a result of poor coaching.

Bro, Rump had Colbertson for like 3 months and 7 games before a season ending injury. Da Gawd.

 

[SCarolina Ibis]

In my opinion it is. Anybody who lands Herbert, Scaife, Reed, & Donaldon in 2 years is better then mediocre. Simple as that.

What’s funny is Pete is saying Hillery is ahead of Herbert at this point. Hillery was scout POY over Herbert and others.

Part of recruiting is evaluating as well. If you fill the position with top notch players, you’re doing your job.


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Hillery might have been Scout team OPOY, but Herbert was listed as 2nd on the depth chart at LT all year. Had McDermott gotten hurt, he might have had his redshirt burned.

So maybe Herbert wasn't even paying as much scout team, because he was on the 2nd string unit.

This is fair. I was led to believe that Darling would actually move over to LT and they'd put Gaynor or Mahoney in at LG, but that could be totally inaccurate. I also thought that Brown was playing mostly second team, but a big disadvantage I have with news on the team is my location and not being able to see them practice.

I think you learn so much about a player by watching him practice. There were kids I'd see with far less talent than their peers that I just knew would zoom past them because of the way they practiced and prepared each day.

I think you'd be right if like it was a small injury that they only needed a sub for like a drive, because they wouldn't want to burn the redshirt over some bs. But if McDermott got hurt and like was set to miss multiple weeks, then Herbert likely would have gotten pt.

George Brown Jr was our 2nd string RT.

It'll be interesting to see what we do at the OL this season, theres all kinds of combo's that realistically could happen, and we know for sure that Gauthier, Donaldson, and St Louis will be 3 of the starters. We just don't know where they will start. I'd bet on:

LT: Herbert > Hillery > Campbell
LG: Boulware > Scaife > Mahoney
C: Gauthier > Gaynor >
RG: Donaldson > Reed > Mahoney
RT: St Louis > Brown Jr > Campbell

Interesting that you have St Louis staying at RT. I certainly don't disagree with you. This is one position battle I'm looking forward to seeing shake out. I was really glad to hear Tyler Horn talk about the difficulty some players have with moving from right to left. Most fans don't understand that its not as easy as telling a guy to move from right to left. He even pointed out that Seantrel couldn't do it. Plus St Louis has started 21 straight at RT. So...

 

[Cribby]

Trolls calling Searles "mediocre " is rich, the guy has pulled some really good players the last two classes. Diaz might just be the mediocre one , he's right there with Kul for being mediocre.

Defensive recruiting has been meh compared to the O