Kaaya staying IMO

[wacane]

To me, regardless of what the advisory board or a compilation of scouts (avoid agents' opinions, as they are the devil) would tell him, his decision should come down to two things:

1) does he have things he needs on film to mitigate the risk an NFL team has to take by drafting him
2) can he actually work on those things, and get better, while in college
3) can he reduce his own risk of staying (through sufficient insurance or the like)
4) if he improves those things, does he stand to significantly increase his chances of guaranteed money and potential longevity in the NFL?

If he goes through that flow, alone or with a group he trusts, and it comes out to 4 yes answers, you automatically stay.
If he goes through that flow, alone or with a group he trusts, and it stops with a NO before the #4 , you automatically stay.
If he goes through that flow, alone or with a group he trusts, and he's not sure about #4 , use the information shared with you by the advisory board and scouts.

As I've been saying, I think it's a bad decision for him to leave right now. I also think our football team is in better shape with him than without him. I know some disagree on that, but I believe we're setup for a multi-year run if he stays.

Lu,

That was 4 things

 

[Brooklyndee]

If he comes back Rozier transfers Probably Sherrif also.

Why is that downvoted? It's almost certainly true. I think either way they both eventually transfer. Just probably not at the same time. The next starter will be a freshman whether it's allison or Perry.

 

[mydas77]

Thanks, Dee. These idiots dont know much, AND they dont know that they dont know much. It is pointless to talk to them.

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[Brooklyndee]

If he comes back Rozier transfers Probably Sherrif also.

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Sheriffs probably comes back for his degree

Shirreffs will only be a RS SOPH next year -- he's staying. Rosier probably won't transfer regardless of what happens with Brad

You think they both basically give up on their careers & take it in stride getting passed up by freshmen Pete? It's legitimately a question. I think especially sheriff's he just has too much potential for that. & wouldn't be surprised to see Malik go back to baseball If he gets passed up.

 

[simplycanes]

For those being disrespectful to Brooklyn, Brooklyn knows what Brooklyn is taking about. You're lucky you get access to his perspective.

 

[Brooklyndee]

Agree 100% with Lu's post. However, if we all agree pocket presence and the ability to throw with the rush baring down is his big area of needed improvement (since he's not going to just get more "athletic" over night) how can BK improve that? Curious for answer on the former since the latter really will be proven when he gets hit in the mouth (and that doesn't happen in practice).

The long & the short of it is what was his problem from jump. He needs to see significant improvement next year from the oline. On the other hand it is significant that we have a weak schedule & he'll have another year to work with someone widely considered a qb guru in Richt. This should be a simple decision.

 

[simplycanes]

If he comes back Rozier transfers Probably Sherrif also.

Why is that downvoted? It's almost certainly true. I think either way they both eventually transfer. Just probably not at the same time. The next starter will be a freshman whether it's allison or Perry.

A QB roster of Kaaya, Allison, Testaverde and Perry (likely red-shirting?) is a good thing, I don't know why that got down voted either. It's a likely outcome.

It's not a question of whether or not Kaaya is the best QB in D1, etc. It's that he gives us the best chance to win. No one behind him has had any meaningful burn this year.

 

[simplycanes]

To me, regardless of what the advisory board or a compilation of scouts (avoid agents' opinions, as they are the devil) would tell him, his decision should come down to two things:

1) does he have things he needs on film to mitigate the risk an NFL team has to take by drafting him
2) can he actually work on those things, and get better, while in college
3) can he reduce his own risk of staying (through sufficient insurance or the like)
4) if he improves those things, does he stand to significantly increase his chances of guaranteed money and potential longevity in the NFL?

If he goes through that flow, alone or with a group he trusts, and it comes out to 4 yes answers, you automatically stay.
If he goes through that flow, alone or with a group he trusts, and it stops with a NO before the #4 , you automatically stay.
If he goes through that flow, alone or with a group he trusts, and he's not sure about #4 , use the information shared with you by the advisory board and scouts.

As I've been saying, I think it's a bad decision for him to leave right now. I also think our football team is in better shape with him than without him. I know some disagree on that, but I believe we're setup for a multi-year run if he stays.

I don't see how anyone thinks we aren't better off if he stays.

Our alternatives are a QB that has no burn, thus bigger downside risks or a QB who is currently in HS.

IMO, either alternative would slow the progression of the rest of the offense, at a minimum.

Suppose BK leaves and they were just as good as Kaaya, basically equaled his production next season, we'd be pretty happy.

It is unlikely any of them come in and exceed his production.

The question isn't whether or not BK is the best QB in CFB, or even the ACC, it's whether or not he gives us the best chance to win. It's pretty clear he does.

 

[Sebastian_29]

When is he expected to announce?

 

[LuCane]

To me, regardless of what the advisory board or a compilation of scouts (avoid agents' opinions, as they are the devil) would tell him, his decision should come down to two things:

1) does he have things he needs on film to mitigate the risk an NFL team has to take by drafting him
2) can he actually work on those things, and get better, while in college
3) can he reduce his own risk of staying (through sufficient insurance or the like)
4) if he improves those things, does he stand to significantly increase his chances of guaranteed money and potential longevity in the NFL?

If he goes through that flow, alone or with a group he trusts, and it comes out to 4 yes answers, you automatically stay.
If he goes through that flow, alone or with a group he trusts, and it stops with a NO before the #4 , you automatically stay.
If he goes through that flow, alone or with a group he trusts, and he's not sure about #4 , use the information shared with you by the advisory board and scouts.

As I've been saying, I think it's a bad decision for him to leave right now. I also think our football team is in better shape with him than without him. I know some disagree on that, but I believe we're setup for a multi-year run if he stays.

Lu,

That was 4 things

Not only that, I wrote stay when I meant leave on #2 . Wrote the post while waiting for food here at the restaurant. I was scatterbrained. Apologies.

 

[Tad Footeball]

I'm not sure why everyone thinks he is the answer next year. One additional year isn't going to undo or fix the last three years of lack of pocket presence or increase his speed. His mobility or lack of it is what it is. I agree that if he had had better coaching and was close, it would help him to stay, but he just isn't that close in my opinion. The program will survive without him and it would be in his best draft selection to go in this weak quarterback class.

Even if his footwork/mobility and pocket awareness improved ZERO the o-line will be better next year. That alone will at minimum mask his deficiencies more than they were this year while allowing him to make more of the big highlight reel throws if he has time in the pocket. It'd also afford him the opportunity to add to the "intangible" schtick list that the Mehl's and McGhey's spout off about if he does manage to win some big games and we have a good to great season.

We've seen that when he has time, he can make throws as good as anyone; however, when he is under duress (as was the case many times this season) he can be a wreck.

Yep. Someone said it- When he has time he's as good as anyone. The moment he doesn't - or thinks he doesn't - he's as bad as anyone.

Slight correction.
I was watching Trubisky and dude was making some amazing passes under duress and hitting them with accuracy.
I love Kaaya and want him to succeed and all like I do for all Canes, but I have never seen make any of the passes
I saw Trubisky make today, in just one game.

Spot on. I was thinking that EXACT same thing as I watched Trubisky do his best Roethlisberger impersonation on their last drive and extend every play and then make some crazy throws (half of which his receivers inexplicably dropped). I kept thinking that Kaaya would've taken 8 sacks on this drive. I actually think Kaaya can improve upon that deficiency if he has the cushion of a better o-line to not be allowing an excess of pressure too many times but Trubisky was showing some NFL level pocket awareness and mobility/ability to brush off hits yesterday.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Brooklyn good info. Don't worry about guys like Smack they typical suckas who **** over information then get mad when they have no information. BK is who I think he is a marginal player who gets shook when the hard hits come.

You mean like getting teeth knocked out.

 

[fincane]

Also no way believe he got a 5th round grade

Why not? Dak Prescott who has better physical tools and was everything to Miss. State's offense was a 4th round pick. Kaaya benefited from being good as a freshman and the hype that came with it and everyone expected him to grow exponentially. He's a solid college QB.

kiper had him as the 7th best qb in the draft so its not out of the question

Kiper had Njoku outside of his top 10 TEs. Kiper is a bit of a dope.

 

[LustNCanes]

Op is NOT full of ****. He is a very legit poster. He is prolly referencing agents grades. Richt will talk with Brad and shoot him straight as a arrow. Kaaya is coming back ya'll. We gonna do it big next year.

He can be legit all he wants..... Kaaya did not get a low 5th round grade from the advisory board(what actually matters) because that grade doesn't exist.

Hey moron well you pretend you understand what yourelse stating this is where context & comprehension will get you away from minimum wage. Anyone with a brain knows the grades from the advisory committee don't come back for atleast another three weeks & that's for the can't miss juniors that get grades first. Believe it or not there is a bunch of PEOPLE who can ADVISE him of what he grades out as... if you still don't comprehend than I apologize for picking on the mentally challenged.

Thts nit what you said though. In your first post you maddest seem as if he got a legit 5th round grade from the advisory board. You said he got a 5th round grade. Hmmmm....

I'm not sure where you can get that from. There's alot more ways than an advisory committee to grade out to something. ANYONE WHO EVALUATES & MAKES AN ASSESSMENT grades the people evaluated out... don't mean to confuse but to me this is real simple. Clearly I'm hard-headed cause I repeatedly tell myself just keep **** to myself but half the time I still come back & tell yall.

LOL.... I feel you , but now keep that **** close to the vest! Some dudes in here want the **** for free and STILL want to ***** and moan.. what gives... Bring the info if you want I like to hear it....

 

[PSU Cane]

If he comes back Rozier transfers Probably Sherrif also.

Why is that downvoted? It's almost certainly true. I think either way they both eventually transfer. Just probably not at the same time. The next starter will be a freshman whether it's allison or Perry.

A QB roster of Kaaya, Allison, Testaverde and Perry (likely red-shirting?) is a good thing, I don't know why that got down voted either. It's a likely outcome.

It's not a question of whether or not Kaaya is the best QB in D1, etc. It's that he gives us the best chance to win. No one behind him has had any meaningful burn this year.

You forgot Weldon.

 

[reef1515]

So he just got his grade back & he got a grade of low fifth round. He's not the type that will impress at combines either. Not really a physical specimen so he pretty much knows his grade. Knowing Angela I can't see her supporting a decision to leave now & brad is every bit as mama's boy. Considering that & our schedule next year I'd have to guess (emphasize I'm guessing here)that he'll be back. With him here next year & oline tightened up well be in the playoffs period.

Total BS post. Don't be sheep people.

The ratings system was revised as well. In previous years, the Committee would evaluate players in one of five categories: potential first-round pick, potential second-round pick, potential third-round pick, no potential for the first three rounds or no draft potential at all. The new ratings are much simpler: potential first round, potential second round, or neither, which is effectively a recommendation to stay in school.

 

[Notsince1985]

If he comes back Rozier transfers Probably Sherrif also.

Why is that downvoted? It's almost certainly true. I think either way they both eventually transfer. Just probably not at the same time. The next starter will be a freshman whether it's allison or Perry.

A QB roster of Kaaya, Allison, Testaverde and Perry (likely red-shirting?) is a good thing, I don't know why that got down voted either. It's a likely outcome.

It's not a question of whether or not Kaaya is the best QB in D1, etc. It's that he gives us the best chance to win. No one behind him has had any meaningful burn this year.

Do not sleep on this kid

 

[fincane]

So he just got his grade back & he got a grade of low fifth round. He's not the type that will impress at combines either. Not really a physical specimen so he pretty much knows his grade. Knowing Angela I can't see her supporting a decision to leave now & brad is every bit as mama's boy. Considering that & our schedule next year I'd have to guess (emphasize I'm guessing here)that he'll be back. With him here next year & oline tightened up well be in the playoffs period.

Total BS post. Don't be sheep people.

The ratings system was revised as well. In previous years, the Committee would evaluate players in one of five categories: potential first-round pick, potential second-round pick, potential third-round pick, no potential for the first three rounds or no draft potential at all. The new ratings are much simpler: potential first round, potential second round, or neither, which is effectively a recommendation to stay in school.

He already explained that there are other ways you can get a grade other than the advisory board. You think every early entrant prospect leans on the advisory board for all their information?

 

[Bunker Mentality]

I've heard his dad definitely supports him coming back

Yes, as anyone who loves him, and wants to see him succeed should.

 

[Bunker Mentality]

If he comes back Rozier transfers Probably Sherrif also.

Why is that downvoted? It's almost certainly true. I think either way they both eventually transfer. Just probably not at the same time. The next starter will be a freshman whether it's allison or Perry.

A QB roster of Kaaya, Allison, Testaverde and Perry (likely red-shirting?) is a good thing, I don't know why that got down voted either. It's a likely outcome.

It's not a question of whether or not Kaaya is the best QB in D1, etc. It's that he gives us the best chance to win. No one behind him has had any meaningful burn this year.

Do not sleep on this kid

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Yeah, he'll be more ready than most Freshman considering his dad was a QB, Coached by Richt, and Heisman runner-up. He's gonna be tough to beat out. I'm sure he's already got the offense and the footwork down. His dad could be a QB coach for Richt.