Josh Gattis (before its deleted)

[cway313]

So does this thread have any info on Gattis or is it just 2 dumbasses just arguing about nothing?

CanesInSight.com should answer that.

 

[RVACane]

That's what is scary. Hopefully Zo can push him on the timing side. Need a new OC as soon as possible but need Gattis GONE ... now.

I don’t know what Zo’s views are on it to begin with or what his role is.

Yeah it’s scary. Does anyone on this board really want to watch Gattis for another year???

 

[SayWhat]

I don’t know what Zo’s views are on it to begin with or what his role is.

Yeah it’s scary. Does anyone on this board really want to watch Gattis for another year???

Nope.

 

[JD4]

I don’t know what Zo’s views are on it to begin with or what his role is.

Yeah it’s scary. Does anyone on this board really want to watch Gattis for another year???

Lol maybe if we bring in the rest of Michigan’s offensive coaching staff and that old high school coach who got them to respect gatass

 

[TheEye]

Maybe we have to wait till Christmas Eve. The day after ESD.

 

[Rickd]

I don’t know what Zo’s views are on it to begin with or what his role is.

Yeah it’s scary. Does anyone on this board really want to watch Gattis for another year???

Not just this board ... offensive recruits and season ticket holders. Brutal doesn't suffice.

 

[D_G87]

I know nothing, but TVD and Jake both announcing they are coming back so quickly makes me believe Gattis won’t be here. No way they’d announce that with how bad they looked in this system

 

[BeastMode]

Gattass ain’t going nowhere.

 

[Dream School]

Talk of Gattis going to Iowa

 

[Angry Ibis]

I don’t know what Zo’s views are on it to begin with or what his role is.

Yeah it’s scary. Does anyone on this board really want to watch Gattis for another year???

I’m not sure anyone knows what Zo’s role is other than “trust Zo, he’s an alpha”…

He may be working 24 hours a day doing everything we need him to do, but he doesn’t appear to have a public facing role so we’re going to have to take people’s word for it and people are inherently biased…

 

[Cane4L]

Gattass ain’t going nowhere.

Source?

 

[BeastMode]

Source?

The fact he is still employed

 

[Noahcane]

Talk of Gattis going to Iowa

Really, just read that Jim Svoboda from Tulane would be a name to watch for if Ferentz made changes.

 

[Hurracanes]

"More precise". Hilarious.

Yeah, the THANKSGIVING WEEKEND PITT GAME attendance "cratered" right after the sellout Homecoming Weekend F$U game.

Wow, what insightful analysis from you...

I realize that attendance numbers are imperfect but...

Bethune-Cookman - 56,795
Southern Miss - 46,422
MTSU - 46,713 (as Hurricane Ian was arriving)
North Carolina - 17,283 (about 10 days after Hurricane Ian made landfall)
Duke - 57,421
F$U - 66,200 (sellout, Homecoming Weekend)
Pitt - 46,428 (Thanksgiving Weekend, never a sellout)

Only game below 46K was a post-hurricane-recovery game.

So, yeah, your "cratering attendance" nonsense was, as I stated, false facts. Lies. More bullcrap from you to spin the narrative that you are desperate to cling to.

That FSU game was a legit sellout, too. No upper sections were empty at kickoff. After the 2nd was a whole different story.

 

[Brains]

I don’t know what Zo’s views are on it to begin with or what his role is.

Yeah it’s scary. Does anyone on this board really want to watch Gattis for another year???

I’m not sure anyone knows what Zo’s role is other than “trust Zo, he’s an alpha”…

He may be working 24 hours a day doing everything we need him to do, but he doesn’t appear to have a public facing role so we’re going to have to take people’s word for it and people are inherently biased…

I freely admit to knowing neither his stated, nor his actual role.

 

[Angry Ibis]

I freely admit to knowing neither his stated, nor his actual role.

Agreed. And yet knowing nothing, I still tend to see his presence as a net positive overall.

Not sure there is enough information to say he is a “game changer” at this point.

 

[Canesrule230]

Suuuuure, that's it. You've been "cordial". You get all snotty when I point out that your "ticket sales" comment was wrong from the jump. Then you sneer at the factual evidence I provide and choose to go with "StubHub prices" as your primary argument.

You're a FRAUD because you are spinning a false narrative with no actual evidence, and you've been given multiple opportunities to back off of your false assertions, yet you keep doubling down.

Can you take a selfie of your actual tears, because I don't think you are actually upset over such biting terms as "dopey" and "fraud", even though "fraud" is not name-calling, it's just a reflection of the bogus nature of your false-narrative posts.

There we go more name calling. Again I have not called you a name and tried to be cordial with you.

I didn’t get snotty at all, I changed my argument to actual attendance to be more precise to the point that I’ve tried to convey. I think your argument is disingenuous by setting the premise that attendance was not impacted by our performance - because in my opinion the bulk of our sales would have been pre-season.

Single game tix sales have not been released so we don’t know how those have been impacted but we do have anecdotal evidence:

1. Tix prices as low as $1 - they were trying to give them away
2. Posters above stating that ppl wouldn’t take the seats for free
3. The eye test - most ppl would not believe the attendance numbers posted

You on the other hand have used attendance numbers that you yourself have said are not real for your case. Why does your argument hold weight when you yourself don’t believe those numbers?

It doesn’t matter what facts or arguments I bring. You’re dead set in what you believe and the only real set of data you yourself have said cannot be believed.

Again let’s see how pre-season tix sales come out next year and then we can have real data to go over.

 

[Atom Atlas]

I don’t know what Zo’s views are on it to begin with or what his role is.

Yeah it’s scary. Does anyone on this board really want to watch Gattis for another year???

 

[yessirking]

Reports: Mario and Gattis are actively looking for their next move since their lease expires at the end of this month. They are on speaking terms but the trust is not there.

Gattis will likely take the dog since Mario has to "go back to work."

 

[Canesrule230]

Suuuuure, that's it. You've been "cordial". You get all snotty when I point out that your "ticket sales" comment was wrong from the jump. Then you sneer at the factual evidence I provide and choose to go with "StubHub prices" as your primary argument.

You're a FRAUD because you are spinning a false narrative with no actual evidence, and you've been given multiple opportunities to back off of your false assertions, yet you keep doubling down.

Can you take a selfie of your actual tears, because I don't think you are actually upset over such biting terms as "dopey" and "fraud", even though "fraud" is not name-calling, it's just a reflection of the bogus nature of your false-narrative posts.

These numbers have all been inflated but its a good apples to apples comparison since they are from the same data source:

2022 Season

2021 Season

2020 Season

2019 Season

2018 Season

BCU

56795​

App State

45877​

Covid Season

BCU

50500​

SSU

60307​

Southern Miss

46422​

MSU

46427​

CMU

49997​

FIU

59814​

MTSU

46713​

Central Ct

44019​

VT

53183​

UNC

60845​

UNC

17283​

Uva

37269​

UVA

54538​

FSU

65490​

Duke

57421​

NC State

43293​

GT

54106​

Duke

62754​

FSU

66200​

GT

48161​

Louisville

53111​

Pitt

59606​

Pitt

46428​

VT

40839​

Avg

52572.5​

Avg

61469.3333​

Avg

48180.2857​

Avg

43697.8571​

Manny 1st yr

Richt last yr

Mario 1st yr

Manny last yr

2017 Season

2016 Season

2015 Season

2014 Season

2013 Season

BCU

50454​

FAMU

60703​

BCU

43467​

FAMU

48254​

FAU

50151​

Toledo

49361​

FAU

57123​

Nebraska

53580​

Ark State

41519​

UF

76968​

GT

55799​

FSU

65685​

VT

50787​

Duke

44559​

SSU

42571​

Syracuse

56158​

UNC

58731​

Clemson

45211​

Cincy

43953​

GT

47008​

VT

63932​

Pitt

51796​

UVA

40963​

UNC

51702​

WF

66160​

ND

65303​

Duke

57396​

GT

51355​

FSU

76530​

VT

49267​

UVA

63415​

Avg

58572.3333​

Avg

47560.5​

Pitt

61106​

UVA

44732​

Avg

57774.5714​

Richt First yr

Golden last yr

Avg

52517.5714​

Avg

53836.7143​

Basically Mario was only able to beat the attendance from Manny's and Golden's last years. He also underperformed Manny in his first year by an average 4000 seats and Richt in his first year by an average of 10,000 seats. A first year coach who was given more resources than anyone else and had arguably the most support out of any new miami head coach going into their first season and all he mustered up was 48k in reported home attendance. Well below all other seasons that a coach was not on his way out.

What else do you need to admit that the performance of this team hampered attendance? Because from where I'm sitting we have a 360 view of the crime being committed and you're putting up excuse after excuse to not convict.