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Canedude08 said:
That and also a budget to where L could have upgraded his staff. Imagine L hiring Mike Brey to be his DC.

Same thing goes for the women’s side too. I’m convinced Katie retired because she knew that Rad and the boosters weren’t serious about supporting her program. She saw where the game was going.
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So the boosters were only going to support the men's team but not the women's? Is that what I'm gathering?
 

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JZCane0825 said:
how long are you going to mope for is the bigger question I have. The amount of prepubescent estrogen you secrete in each post is truly impressive
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Mope? The fact that some people call me a "slurper" should be all the proof needed to demonstrate that I am neither. I am supportive of the positive things that UM does and I am critical of the dumb things that UM does.

It's just you and @cookies who are complaining when we point out that you are 69-ing each other with "likes" and complaining about people critiquing your terrible porsts.
 
JZCane0825 said:
If that's the case, why has our budget for basketball nearly tripled YoY?
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Oh, lord, just more fool's gold.

"Our budget". It's actually not OUR budget. It's whatever a handful of boosters are willing to contribute for as long as they are interested and liquid. Remember when John Ruiz was going to pump all that money into UM NIL?

Building one's hopes and dreams on NIL is like building a sand castle. Yes, it's impressive, but it's not exactly a stable foundation. A big wave can wash it all away.

Maybe our basketball NIL will be upwards of $8M for the next few decades. That would be wonderful. But if donors are making that amound contingent on one particular coach, then what happens if that coach takes a better job in a few years?

Miami should never hire a first-time head coach in basketball. And we got **** lucky with Butch in football, and he STILL took the Browns money.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Oh, lord, just more fool's gold.

"Our budget". It's actually not OUR budget. It's whatever a handful of boosters are willing to contribute for as long as they are interested and liquid. Remember when John Ruiz was going to pump all that money into UM NIL?

Building one's hopes and dreams on NIL is like building a sand castle. Yes, it's impressive, but it's not exactly a stable foundation. A big wave can wash it all away.

Maybe our basketball NIL will be upwards of $8M for the next few decades. That would be wonderful. But if donors are making that amound contingent on one particular coach, then what happens if that coach takes a better job in a few years?

Miami should never hire a first-time head coach in basketball. And we got **** lucky with Butch in football, and he STILL took the Browns money.
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Keep moving those goal posts. You'd be here complaining about our NIL budget if it was comparable to previous years.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
What a crybaby you two are.

Multiple threads (including this one, which is at 31 pages), you and your butt-buddy @JZCane0825 were repetetively ripping anyone who disagreed with you, slamming any coaching candidate not named "Jai Lucas" and serving as the sole "like" on each other's posts.

Now you're trying to recede into the background and you're angry that people point out your posting history. As if you can control when we mention you.

Grow up and grow a pair. You and @JZCane0825 invested in countless posts white-knighting for Jai Lucas when most of us chose to express our reservations with YEARS of terrible UM coaching searches. Go cry somewhere else.
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You just told me to grow up in the same breath as recounting likes lmao — and your recollection is false; not that it matters who likes whoever’s posts.

Just like your claim of me being a stan for our AD is false. Use the search function.

Idk wtf you’re on lol. I didn’t post until Lucas got the job. Therefore, by definition, the other candidates were no longer candidates.

I also was intrigued/expressed approval of Chris Quinn being a finalist. I didn’t post about Fizdale although I would have been fine/happy with him as well.

You’re a hoe because you won’t call a spade a spade. You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth; You’re tryna say the hiring of Lucas is trash and the Lucas hire wasn’t a bad hire at the same time.
 
JZCane0825 said:
If that's the case, why has our budget for basketball nearly tripled YoY?

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You like to see NIL invested, but UF just came out and said they will be a top tier bball NIL program this offseason, and Louisville came and and said 8-10 NIL is their investment this offseason.


"Pat Kelsey and his staff reported that they are set to spend a wild amount of money in the NIL. The Cardinals will pay around $8 to $10 million in the transfer portal this spring to support Pat Kelsey. "


So we lost our class, and now we arent going to out distance programs already better and ahead of us with more NIL, does this not concern anyone?

If Golden and Kelsey and numerous others have as much or more NIL than Lucas, where does Lucas bring much to the table?
 
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Canedude08 said:
RollDude, you haven’t been around for most of the season nor most of the previous years. It’s amazing how fans like yourself are excited about what is an underwhelming hire because “Duke”. Like a lot of our fans, if this doesn’t work out, you’ll go right back to ignoring the program like you did before.

For us that have been here, through the good times and bad, we know crap when we see it. Rad is treating basketball like a stepchild, the rest of the ACC wants to get better, we straight up punted. The ONLY school to fail this terribly at hiring is FSU and they have significant financial constraints.
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**** is this I gotta check in with yall? Canedude08 aka Big U for the U :roll-canes2:

Yeah I’m sure I’ll go back to ignoring the program — not like I’m former writer for this website or anything like that. Your argument is projection/assumption based combined with the message board version of ‘pics or it didn’t happen.’

I loved the hire because: he is from a coaching family and hc’s from coaching families are over represented amongst successful college HCs just like Tony Bennett and Sean Miller and dozens of others, he is well respected, he has the personal experience of transferring himself while playing for two great college coaches, he’s a former McDonald’s all American who can relate to future McDonalds all Americans, his experience as an assistant at three schools, he’s hungry for success, and I don’t believe being a head coach is like running NASA while being an astronaut at the same time as many others seem to think.

If you want to know the other reasons use the search function. You got me to reply hope you’re satisfied 🙄
 
Canedude08 said:
Yep because Jim Larranaga and his staff were lazy and didn’t try to coach these guys up. Are you listening to yourself? I’m convinced L did something to you personally because there’s no way someone could have this kind of beef with a total stranger, it’s almost like his success bothers you.
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What needs to be examined is your love affair with Coach L and your knee jerk reaction to every comment made about him.
Why are you going so hard for him!
No pun intended.
 
cookies said:
You just told me to grow up in the same breath as recounting likes lmao — and your recollection is false; not that it matters who likes whoever’s posts.

Just like your claim of me being a stan for our AD is false. Use the search function.

Idk wtf you’re on lol. I didn’t post until Lucas got the job. Therefore, by definition, the other candidates were no longer candidates.

I also was intrigued/expressed approval of Chris Quinn being a finalist. I didn’t post about Fizdale although I would have been fine/happy with him as well.

You’re a hoe because you won’t call a spade a spade. You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth; You’re tryna say the hiring of Lucas is trash and the Lucas hire wasn’t a bad hire at the same time.
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As you've proven, you don't read posts closely, and you definitely don't quote posts accurately.

So it's time to blow up your bull****.

First, the "likes" are at the bottom of the post. Near where you hit "Reply". So, yes, it is fairly easy to see "cookies likes JZCane0825" and "JZCane0825 likes cookies", particularly when you guys are the only ones liking each other's posts.

Not sure where I "claimed you were a stan of our AD". I don't think anyone is. On the other hand, you're a stan of Jai Lucas's, and you are acting as if Radakovich's process yielded a great hire, so that's on you.

And look at you with your lies. "I didn't post until Lucas got the job". And then in the next paragraph "I expressed approval of Chris Quinn being a finalist". You can't even lie very well.

Finally, I'm a "hoe". What is this, 1989? Or did you just overdo it with the garden-implements references, between hoes and spades? I don't know what in the **** you are even talking about. I have consistently, for weeks, said that I object to UM's PROCESS of hiring Lucas. I have consistently, for weeks, cited the reasons. Too rushed, too "focused on only one candidate", definitely should have had prior head coaching experience as a job requirement. But I refuse to root against a UM hire merely because I disagree with the hiring process. ****, for about 5 minutes two years ago, I actually gave JD Arteaga a chance of succeeding.

This is the problem with you binary *******, you think you can only have two polar-opposite opinions. "Trash hire" or "great hire". I'm one of the few honest people involved in this thread who is willing to admit to mixed feelings. I don't know if Lucas will succeed or fail. I believe that OTHER coaches not named Jai Lucas could also succeed with an $8M NIL budget. And I have presented ample evidence that Miami, and the ACC, and the SEC...all have greater success rates when hiring candidates with prior head coaching experience.

And who knows, maybe Miami will be the unicorn that enjoys wild success under a first-time head coach. It could happen. That doesn't erase the concerns I have with UM's "the fix is in" hiring process.
 
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gacaneaddict said:
You like to see NIL invested, but UF just came out and said they will be a top tier bball NIL program this offseason, and Louisville came and and said 8-10 NIL is their investment this offseason.


"Pat Kelsey and his staff reported that they are set to spend a wild amount of money in the NIL. The Cardinals will pay around $8 to $10 million in the transfer portal this spring to support Pat Kelsey. "


So we lost our class, and now we arent going to out distance programs already better and ahead of us with more NIL, does this not concern anyone?

If Golden and Kelsey and numerous others have as much or more NIL than Lucas, where does Lucas bring much to the table?
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But but but, our budget tripled...

Yeah, that's great if we hadn't fallen so far behind. It's like "hey, now we have an IPF", but when we are one of the last to build an IPF and everyone mocks us for it not being a full 100 yards, that **** can backfire.

I applaud the investment in basketball NIL. But it is belated. And if a bunch of other P4 schools say "yeah, we can match or exceed what Miami is offering", then we are mid-tier all over again.

This is me, when @JZCane0825 brags, yet again, about the increase in the Basketball NIL budget:
Sarcastic Season 9 GIF by The Office
 
Da_Lucky_One said:
What needs to be examined is your love affair with Coach L and your knee jerk reaction to every comment made about him.
Why are you going so hard for him!
No pun intended.
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When someone consistently is passive aggressive towards the best coach in program history, and actively roots against the success of the program, I’m going to say something about it. We all see through your nonsense, it’s beyond obvious what you are about.
 
Canedude08 said:
When someone consistently is passive aggressive towards the best coach in program history, and actively roots against the success of the program, I’m going to say something about it. We all see through your nonsense, it’s beyond obvious what you are about.
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The pro-Jai stuff is all a shtick by the way
 
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cookies said:
**** is this I gotta check in with yall? Canedude08 aka Big U for the U :roll-canes2:

Yeah I’m sure I’ll go back to ignoring the program — not like I’m former writer for this website or anything like that. Your argument is projection/assumption based combined with the message board version of ‘pics or it didn’t happen.’

I loved the hire because: he is from a coaching family and hc’s from coaching families are over represented amongst successful college HCs just like Tony Bennett and Sean Miller and dozens of others, he is well respected, he has the personal experience of transferring himself while playing for two great college coaches, he’s a former McDonald’s all American who can relate to future McDonalds all Americans, his experience as an assistant at three schools, he’s hungry for success, and I don’t believe being a head coach is like running NASA while being an astronaut at the same time as many others seem to think.

If you want to know the other reasons use the search function. You got me to reply hope you’re satisfied 🙄
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1. He's from a coaching family. Yeah, and John Lucas was a TERRIBLE head coach.
2. He is well-respected. Acknowledged. So too were MANY other candidates, he doesn't have a monopoly on that trait.
3. He has the personal experience of transferring himself. OK. But with the level of Portal activity, I don't think this is a big deal AT ALL.
4. He's a former McDonald's All American who can relate to future McDonald's All Americans. Uhhh, sure. They can bond over Big Macs. Somehow, plenty of coaches who were NOT McDonald's All Americans have managed to sign McDonald's All Americans without "relating to them".
5. His experience as an assistant at three schools. For the millionth time, he could have been an assistant at THIRTY schools, he is still a first-time head coach.
6. He's hungry for success. Good for him. Nobody else, ever, has been hungry for success...
7. Finally, you make a straw man argument about running NASA while being an astronaut at the same time. Just ridiculous. What is this "same time" crap? You STILL want the head of NASA to have relevant experience that qualifies him. More importantly, there are no "minor leagues" of space administrations where one can gain experience PRIOR to heading up NASA. If that was true, you would probably PREFER that the head of NASA got the job without gaining any similar experience.

The job of basketball head coach carries numerous responsibilities that go above and beyond the responsibilities of being an assistant coach. There are decades of results indicating that head coaches at top programs (currently "P4") enjoy higher rates of success than "first time head coaches". It's a true statistic, regardless of trying to yap about "NASA".
 
Canedude08 said:
Minnesota, MINNESOTA. I’m convinced that Miami and FSU will have the worst P4 coaching hires by far when this cycle is completed. We can only hope this works out, but it’s looking worse and worse by the day.
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Yup. It’s over. Why even field a team at this point???!!!!!
 
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