If the SEC offered, would you want Miami to join?

Eventually, FOUR super conferences are where we are headed, with the BIG and $EC assured of a place at the table because of their big money programs. The PAC 12 is aided by geography, "The Tyranny of Distance" as they say in the military. That leaves the ACC and Big 12 to slug it out. Big 12 Comish Bowlsby has deep pocketed schools in Texas and Oklahoma and something is brewing after they put the brakes on expansion with weaker schools (and getting shafted by the CFP…AGAIN, makes them even more desperate). The ACC has Tobacco Road myopic John Swofford who turned 68 this month and won't build the ACC into a multiple powers football conference because his personal bias flows down through the conference (See referee bias thread). UM is a couple of poor and vindictive decisions by Swofford from being relegated to the Group of 5. If the Big 12 picks up Colorado again, plus CSU and Utah, they then move East to pick up WVU complimentary opponents like VT and Pitt, the dominoes will really start to fall (BIG pics up Syracuse and maybe BC (If ND agrees to join) for Rutgers and Maryland, SEC forces Georgia and Florida to take fellow state schools GT and FSU, etc.

Bottom Line: Miami will be left out. Don't think it can't happen.

We are seeing problems with the super conferences as is, and there is no way Miami would be left out, while schools like BC and WVU get included. Miami brings you a national audience, as well as one of the largest markets in the country. If push comes to shove, I see schools like Miami, FSU, VT, GT and Clemson banding together with Texas, OU, Okie State, and a couple of other Big XII schools to form a conference, and go from there. Tobacco Road would be the ones left in the cold.

If the super conferences are football only, you might be right. But come on Duke and UNC left out. Really?

College basketball, outside of March Madness is a nothing enterprise. No one makes decisions based on basketball, because it brings in 1/3rd of the revenue.
 
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Eventually, FOUR super conferences are where we are headed, with the BIG and $EC assured of a place at the table because of their big money programs. The PAC 12 is aided by geography, "The Tyranny of Distance" as they say in the military. That leaves the ACC and Big 12 to slug it out. Big 12 Comish Bowlsby has deep pocketed schools in Texas and Oklahoma and something is brewing after they put the brakes on expansion with weaker schools (and getting shafted by the CFP…AGAIN, makes them even more desperate). The ACC has Tobacco Road myopic John Swofford who turned 68 this month and won't build the ACC into a multiple powers football conference because his personal bias flows down through the conference (See referee bias thread). UM is a couple of poor and vindictive decisions by Swofford from being relegated to the Group of 5. If the Big 12 picks up Colorado again, plus CSU and Utah, they then move East to pick up WVU complimentary opponents like VT and Pitt, the dominoes will really start to fall (BIG pics up Syracuse and maybe BC (If ND agrees to join) for Rutgers and Maryland, SEC forces Georgia and Florida to take fellow state schools GT and FSU, etc.

Bottom Line: Miami will be left out. Don't think it can't happen.

We are seeing problems with the super conferences as is, and there is no way Miami would be left out, while schools like BC and WVU get included. Miami brings you a national audience, as well as one of the largest markets in the country. If push comes to shove, I see schools like Miami, FSU, VT, GT and Clemson banding together with Texas, OU, Okie State, and a couple of other Big XII schools to form a conference, and go from there. Tobacco Road would be the ones left in the cold.

If the super conferences are football only, you might be right. But come on Duke and UNC left out. Really?

College basketball, outside of March Madness is a nothing enterprise. No one makes decisions based on basketball, because it brings in 1/3rd of the revenue.

Again, as I put in my post, it's a doomsday scenario of Miami getting left out, but Swofford is General Jack D. Ripper. The next round of rights fees negotions will be for shocklingly less $$$ and the fee payers will demand a higher quality product that fits evenly in the CFP framework (The weekday/night E$ECPN controversy shows on who gets in are small potatoes compared to big time conference matches). The strong survive when the herd is culled by predators and Swofford is leading the ACC herd. He will protect his alma mater and (despite being a football player when Zsa Zsa was hot) will go all Mike Tranghese to protect the Tobacco Road hoops. History repeats itself and we can deduce the Big 12 held off from expansion for a reason that isn't public knowledge...Remember, UNC, Duke, Virginia, and even NC State could drop football and most of their fanbase wouldn't mind as long as they stayed dominant in roundball.

It happened once before and could happen again, but with more tragic results, POSSIBLY.
 
Anyone who doesn't think we get left out if there are 4 super conferences hasn't been paying attention to the way things are going in CFB these days. Our brand is garbage now. We just have to hope Richt and the administration keep working to improve our standing.
 
A) No, UM is a better fit and should remain in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

B) If FSU leaves for the SEC. Then and only then Canes gotta go, too.

C) Not yes. But **** YEAH RIGHT NOW if the SEC offers!

D) Even if the ACC implodes, I'd rather UM cobble together an Independent schedule than join the SEC.


No, but I'm really starting to miss the Big East.
 
Anyone who doesn't think we get left out if there are 4 super conferences hasn't been paying attention to the way things are going in CFB these days. Our brand is garbage now. We just have to hope Richt and the administration keep working to improve our standing.

Is our brand more garbage than Rutgers, Purdue, Illinois, Kansas, (insert Power 5 bottom feeder school here)? Absolutely not. So why do you feel we would be left out in the cold if consolidation occurs in the form of 4 super conferences? A small market school without our brand would be jettisoned way before we would be left out in the cold. Miami football games get big viewership numbers and money talks.
 
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ESPN would not like the ACC to go away. The basketball is a major draw. SEC basketball is Kentucky and everybody else. Also on the minor sport level, ACC lacrosse, soccer, and baseball are big fish in those markets.
 
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