If the SEC offered, would you want Miami to join?

[CaneFan79]

Eventually, FOUR super conferences are where we are headed, with the BIG and $EC assured of a place at the table because of their big money programs. The PAC 12 is aided by geography, "The Tyranny of Distance" as they say in the military. That leaves the ACC and Big 12 to slug it out. Big 12 Comish Bowlsby has deep pocketed schools in Texas and Oklahoma and something is brewing after they put the brakes on expansion with weaker schools (and getting shafted by the CFP…AGAIN, makes them even more desperate). The ACC has Tobacco Road myopic John Swofford who turned 68 this month and won't build the ACC into a multiple powers football conference because his personal bias flows down through the conference (See referee bias thread). UM is a couple of poor and vindictive decisions by Swofford from being relegated to the Group of 5. If the Big 12 picks up Colorado again, plus CSU and Utah, they then move East to pick up WVU complimentary opponents like VT and Pitt, the dominoes will really start to fall (BIG pics up Syracuse and maybe BC (If ND agrees to join) for Rutgers and Maryland, SEC forces Georgia and Florida to take fellow state schools GT and FSU, etc.

Bottom Line: Miami will be left out. Don't think it can't happen.

 

[FIUMCane]

I hate the bias against us in the ACC...can you imagine how much worst it would be in the SEC? We would never win a game.

 

[Canedude08]

The SEC would be an awful fit for Miami in almost every conceivable way. We are a relatively small private school with some legit academic standards for student athletes. We would be competing against schools that are in a lot of cases 3-4 times larger and they have nonexistent standards. That would hurt Miami in recruiting, even more so than it does today. Not only can you go to a school like Auburn or LSU, you'll get to play Miami in front of your family at some point in your career. The financial windfall of joining the conference wouldn't be enough to overcome the fact that Miami is still competing against schools that bring in 2-3x the revenue, due to their huge alumni bases, and the fact that SEC athletics is all a lot of these regions have. Miami would most likely be doomed to be a better version of Vanderbilt, and as we all know, our fanbase won't support that.

Miami is a great cultural, athletic, and revenue fit for the ACC, now "The U" has to do their job on the field. When Miami starts winning on the field at a high level, they can then team with Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Clemson, FSU and some of the other more football centric schools to force some changes in Greensboro. That would include hiring a real commissioner, eliminating the crony capitalism in regards to media rights, and making it clear to the idiots on Tobacco Road that football drives the bus, and it would be in the best interests of the entire conference to not actively ***** the schools that try to win on the field. In other words, no stupid *** scheduling nonsense, division champs based ON DIVISIONAL RECORD, not overall conference record(Which is a punishment to schools who don't get to load up on garbage crossover games), and upgrading the referee corps.

 

[Canedude08]

Eventually, FOUR super conferences are where we are headed, with the BIG and $EC assured of a place at the table because of their big money programs. The PAC 12 is aided by geography, "The Tyranny of Distance" as they say in the military. That leaves the ACC and Big 12 to slug it out. Big 12 Comish Bowlsby has deep pocketed schools in Texas and Oklahoma and something is brewing after they put the brakes on expansion with weaker schools (and getting shafted by the CFP…AGAIN, makes them even more desperate). The ACC has Tobacco Road myopic John Swofford who turned 68 this month and won't build the ACC into a multiple powers football conference because his personal bias flows down through the conference (See referee bias thread). UM is a couple of poor and vindictive decisions by Swofford from being relegated to the Group of 5. If the Big 12 picks up Colorado again, plus CSU and Utah, they then move East to pick up WVU complimentary opponents like VT and Pitt, the dominoes will really start to fall (BIG pics up Syracuse and maybe BC (If ND agrees to join) for Rutgers and Maryland, SEC forces Georgia and Florida to take fellow state schools GT and FSU, etc.

Bottom Line: Miami will be left out. Don't think it can't happen.

We are seeing problems with the super conferences as is, and there is no way Miami would be left out, while schools like BC and WVU get included. Miami brings you a national audience, as well as one of the largest markets in the country. If push comes to shove, I see schools like Miami, FSU, VT, GT and Clemson banding together with Texas, OU, Okie State, and a couple of other Big XII schools to form a conference, and go from there. Tobacco Road would be the ones left in the cold.

 

[Unsider]

No, no, no and.yes.

 

[theibisrules]

E) We should "Find A Way" to be independent again

 

[CaneFan79]

Eventually, FOUR super conferences are where we are headed, with the BIG and $EC assured of a place at the table because of their big money programs. The PAC 12 is aided by geography, "The Tyranny of Distance" as they say in the military. That leaves the ACC and Big 12 to slug it out. Big 12 Comish Bowlsby has deep pocketed schools in Texas and Oklahoma and something is brewing after they put the brakes on expansion with weaker schools (and getting shafted by the CFP…AGAIN, makes them even more desperate). The ACC has Tobacco Road myopic John Swofford who turned 68 this month and won't build the ACC into a multiple powers football conference because his personal bias flows down through the conference (See referee bias thread). UM is a couple of poor and vindictive decisions by Swofford from being relegated to the Group of 5. If the Big 12 picks up Colorado again, plus CSU and Utah, they then move East to pick up WVU complimentary opponents like VT and Pitt, the dominoes will really start to fall (BIG pics up Syracuse and maybe BC (If ND agrees to join) for Rutgers and Maryland, SEC forces Georgia and Florida to take fellow state schools GT and FSU, etc.

Bottom Line: Miami will be left out. Don't think it can't happen.

We are seeing problems with the super conferences as is, and there is no way Miami would be left out, while schools like BC and WVU get included. Miami brings you a national audience, as well as one of the largest markets in the country. If push comes to shove, I see schools like Miami, FSU, VT, GT and Clemson banding together with Texas, OU, Okie State, and a couple of other Big XII schools to form a conference, and go from there. Tobacco Road would be the ones left in the cold.

All good, logical points...John Swofford, however, is neither good, 'nor logical

 

[can4life]

I like the ACC but if the sec calls we should go it would give us that TA&M affect.

 

[CUKIO34]

Id say yes, just because it would boost recruiting and the refs in the SEC got there **** together compared to the ACC refs. ACC refs cost us 2 games a year.

 

[tcgrad1014]

A. FSU would be a great fit for the $EC however. Big state school with ****** academics like 80%+ of that conference.

 

[Klamalama]

Eventually, FOUR super conferences are where we are headed, with the BIG and $EC assured of a place at the table because of their big money programs. The PAC 12 is aided by geography, "The Tyranny of Distance" as they say in the military. That leaves the ACC and Big 12 to slug it out. Big 12 Comish Bowlsby has deep pocketed schools in Texas and Oklahoma and something is brewing after they put the brakes on expansion with weaker schools (and getting shafted by the CFP…AGAIN, makes them even more desperate). The ACC has Tobacco Road myopic John Swofford who turned 68 this month and won't build the ACC into a multiple powers football conference because his personal bias flows down through the conference (See referee bias thread). UM is a couple of poor and vindictive decisions by Swofford from being relegated to the Group of 5. If the Big 12 picks up Colorado again, plus CSU and Utah, they then move East to pick up WVU complimentary opponents like VT and Pitt, the dominoes will really start to fall (BIG pics up Syracuse and maybe BC (If ND agrees to join) for Rutgers and Maryland, SEC forces Georgia and Florida to take fellow state schools GT and FSU, etc.

Bottom Line: Miami will be left out. Don't think it can't happen.

That's a lot of text based on a questionable assumption (see bold, above). Why can't it be five? Please backup that assumption.

 

[firstandcanes]

Eventually, FOUR super conferences are where we are headed, with the BIG and $EC assured of a place at the table because of their big money programs. The PAC 12 is aided by geography, "The Tyranny of Distance" as they say in the military. That leaves the ACC and Big 12 to slug it out. Big 12 Comish Bowlsby has deep pocketed schools in Texas and Oklahoma and something is brewing after they put the brakes on expansion with weaker schools (and getting shafted by the CFP…AGAIN, makes them even more desperate). The ACC has Tobacco Road myopic John Swofford who turned 68 this month and won't build the ACC into a multiple powers football conference because his personal bias flows down through the conference (See referee bias thread). UM is a couple of poor and vindictive decisions by Swofford from being relegated to the Group of 5. If the Big 12 picks up Colorado again, plus CSU and Utah, they then move East to pick up WVU complimentary opponents like VT and Pitt, the dominoes will really start to fall (BIG pics up Syracuse and maybe BC (If ND agrees to join) for Rutgers and Maryland, SEC forces Georgia and Florida to take fellow state schools GT and FSU, etc.

Bottom Line: Miami will be left out. Don't think it can't happen.

No way Miami would be left out of a super conference, unless it was the schools decision, which would be incredibly stupid from a financial standpoint. Even though Miami is a small private school there's still too much history and prestige for a conference to not take them.

 

[QuattroCane]

The SEC would be an awful fit for Miami in almost every conceivable way. We are a relatively small private school with some legit academic standards for student athletes. We would be competing against schools that are in a lot of cases 3-4 times larger and they have nonexistent standards. That would hurt Miami in recruiting, even more so than it does today. Not only can you go to a school like Auburn or LSU, you'll get to play Miami in front of your family at some point in your career. The financial windfall of joining the conference wouldn't be enough to overcome the fact that Miami is still competing against schools that bring in 2-3x the revenue, due to their huge alumni bases, and the fact that SEC athletics is all a lot of these regions have. Miami would most likely be doomed to be a better version of Vanderbilt, and as we all know, our fanbase won't support that.

Miami is a great cultural, athletic, and revenue fit for the ACC, now "The U" has to do their job on the field. When Miami starts winning on the field at a high level, they can then team with Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Clemson, FSU and some of the other more football centric schools to force some changes in Greensboro. That would include hiring a real commissioner, eliminating the crony capitalism in regards to media rights, and making it clear to the idiots on Tobacco Road that football drives the bus, and it would be in the best interests of the entire conference to not actively ***** the schools that try to win on the field. In other words, no stupid *** scheduling nonsense, division champs based ON DIVISIONAL RECORD, not overall conference record(Which is a punishment to schools who don't get to load up on garbage crossover games), and upgrading the referee corps.

Lock thread.

 

[imurcane]

A

If Free Shoes left for the SEC and UM stayed in the ACC, do you think there would still be an annual series?

You'd be OK with the Semenholes pulling the same crap the Gayturds did after 1987?

I certainly don't think FSU is any less chicken**** than UFag. I'm sure Jumbo would be glad to drop the Canes.

Really? Because we have been such a thorn in his side?

 

[imurcane]

Eventually, FOUR super conferences are where we are headed, with the BIG and $EC assured of a place at the table because of their big money programs. The PAC 12 is aided by geography, "The Tyranny of Distance" as they say in the military. That leaves the ACC and Big 12 to slug it out. Big 12 Comish Bowlsby has deep pocketed schools in Texas and Oklahoma and something is brewing after they put the brakes on expansion with weaker schools (and getting shafted by the CFP…AGAIN, makes them even more desperate). The ACC has Tobacco Road myopic John Swofford who turned 68 this month and won't build the ACC into a multiple powers football conference because his personal bias flows down through the conference (See referee bias thread). UM is a couple of poor and vindictive decisions by Swofford from being relegated to the Group of 5. If the Big 12 picks up Colorado again, plus CSU and Utah, they then move East to pick up WVU complimentary opponents like VT and Pitt, the dominoes will really start to fall (BIG pics up Syracuse and maybe BC (If ND agrees to join) for Rutgers and Maryland, SEC forces Georgia and Florida to take fellow state schools GT and FSU, etc.

Bottom Line: Miami will be left out. Don't think it can't happen.

We are seeing problems with the super conferences as is, and there is no way Miami would be left out, while schools like BC and WVU get included. Miami brings you a national audience, as well as one of the largest markets in the country. If push comes to shove, I see schools like Miami, FSU, VT, GT and Clemson banding together with Texas, OU, Okie State, and a couple of other Big XII schools to form a conference, and go from there. Tobacco Road would be the ones left in the cold.

If the super conferences are football only, you might be right. But come on Duke and UNC left out. Really?

 

[MedleyCane]

The SEC would be an awful fit for Miami in almost every conceivable way. We are a relatively small private school with some legit academic standards for student athletes. We would be competing against schools that are in a lot of cases 3-4 times larger and they have nonexistent standards. That would hurt Miami in recruiting, even more so than it does today. Not only can you go to a school like Auburn or LSU, you'll get to play Miami in front of your family at some point in your career. The financial windfall of joining the conference wouldn't be enough to overcome the fact that Miami is still competing against schools that bring in 2-3x the revenue, due to their huge alumni bases, and the fact that SEC athletics is all a lot of these regions have. Miami would most likely be doomed to be a better version of Vanderbilt, and as we all know, our fanbase won't support that.

Miami is a great cultural, athletic, and revenue fit for the ACC, now "The U" has to do their job on the field. When Miami starts winning on the field at a high level, they can then team with Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Clemson, FSU and some of the other more football centric schools to force some changes in Greensboro. That would include hiring a real commissioner, eliminating the crony capitalism in regards to media rights, and making it clear to the idiots on Tobacco Road that football drives the bus, and it would be in the best interests of the entire conference to not actively ***** the schools that try to win on the field. In other words, no stupid *** scheduling nonsense, division champs based ON DIVISIONAL RECORD, not overall conference record(Which is a punishment to schools who don't get to load up on garbage crossover games), and upgrading the referee corps.

Lock thread.

+1000!!!

 

[simplycanes]

We don't pay our players well enough to be considered for an SEC slot.

 

[Lutzboy247]

Id rather be independent but SEC I'd take, but the SEC would never let that happen.

 

[mirednmediocrity2]

Not an ACC fan because of the Tobacco Road bias, but Miami doesn't fit in the SEC at all. UF would never allow us to join anyway. Clemson, which fits the SEC profile more than Miami, won't be allowed to join either because of USCe.What I don't get is why Vandy stays in that conference when the ACC is a much better fit for that school.

 

[Bigtip]

Miami is a horrible fit in the $EC. They all despise Miami. Every single cawksucking $EC fan hates Miami