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[AUcane]

I think boo$ters got to them. No interviews, no media, i'm staying committed. F all that, Does not smell right AT ALL

Nah, I think it’s the staff coaching these kids to not do interviews until things play out. That’s publicly - I’m sure some of those kids are listening to other schools with a bit more interest than before privately.

It’s going to be really interesting to see who they go after. Can’t imagine they are going to throw loads of cash at the new guy just after paying mctooth all this buyout money but who knows

 

[The Sphinx]

Guy gets them back to back SEC East titles in his first two yrs and gets fired 3rd year. U had a guy who's arguably a top 3 coach in the NCAA, who led UF to two national titles, fake a heart attack to bounce. Muskrat created a solid def under his watch, sending multiple first rounders to the NFL...axed unceremoniously, and now MacTooth gets the boot after two SEC East titles. What about how they did the old ball coach? UF is a horrible gig; one of the worst in the nation.

The fake death threats is what got him fired

I agree with you both, but there has to be more to this story. This guy got them 2 consecutive SEC East titles, and then he gets fired all of a sudden in Year 3? Don’t forget that UF had just given him a raise and a contract extension over the Summer.

So to Rell’s point, what the **** happened so quickly to warrant the fast firing? OK, they underachieved this year but you would think that the suspensions give him an alibi for at least another year.

Must have been bad blood somewhere between him and the athletic department because it just doesn’t add up.

Either way, it’s going to make potential candidates think very long and hard about walking into that $hitstorm knowing they could face the same quick hook.

 

[RVACane]

Guy gets them back to back SEC East titles in his first two yrs and gets fired 3rd year. U had a guy who's arguably a top 3 coach in the NCAA, who led UF to two national titles, fake a heart attack to bounce. Muskrat created a solid def under his watch, sending multiple first rounders to the NFL...axed unceremoniously, and now MacTooth gets the boot after two SEC East titles. What about how they did the old ball coach? UF is a horrible gig; one of the worst in the nation.

The fake death threats is what got him fired

I agree with you both, but there has to be more to this story. This guy got them 2 consecutive SEC East titles, and then he gets fired all of a sudden in Year 3? Don’t forget that UF had just given him a raise and a contract extension over the Summer.

So to Rell’s point, what the **** happened so quickly to warrant the fast firing? OK, they underachieved this year but you would think that the suspensions give him an alibi for at least another year.

Must have been bad blood somewhere between him and the athletic department because it just doesn’t add up.

Either way, it’s going to make potential candidates think very long and hard about walking into that $hitstorm knowing they could face the same quick hook.

There have been comments on their board recently that he wasn't liked within the Athletic Department or by other coaches from other sports. Apparently, he never participated in things with the other sports' coaches which rubbed his counterparts wrong.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

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Smh LOL #AllBite18

I almost feel bad for them... But, I **** sure can't wait til 2019.

How long ago were Gaytor fans mocking us for the "1000% committed" tweets that our recruits were sending out?

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Guy gets them back to back SEC East titles in his first two yrs and gets fired 3rd year. U had a guy who's arguably a top 3 coach in the NCAA, who led UF to two national titles, fake a heart attack to bounce. Muskrat created a solid def under his watch, sending multiple first rounders to the NFL...axed unceremoniously, and now MacTooth gets the boot after two SEC East titles. What about how they did the old ball coach? UF is a horrible gig; one of the worst in the nation.

The fake death threats is what got him fired

I agree with you both, but there has to be more to this story. This guy got them 2 consecutive SEC East titles, and then he gets fired all of a sudden in Year 3? Don’t forget that UF had just given him a raise and a contract extension over the Summer.

So to Rell’s point, what the **** happened so quickly to warrant the fast firing? OK, they underachieved this year but you would think that the suspensions give him an alibi for at least another year.

Must have been bad blood somewhere between him and the athletic department because it just doesn’t add up.

Either way, it’s going to make potential candidates think very long and hard about walking into that $hitstorm knowing they could face the same quick hook.

There have been comments on their board recently that he wasn't liked within the Athletic Department or by other coaches from other sports. Apparently, he never participated in things with the other sports' coaches which rubbed his counterparts wrong.

First, the comment about other sports was about Urban (and even if it was also true of McSharkfvcker, it was DEFINITELY true of Urban).

Second, there is a very good article on SI.com right now about the firing of McSharkfvcker. Andy Staples is a UF alum, so I think he is pretty dialed in about this. More importantly, he pinpoints when this all started to unravel, and it was a year ago. I'm from Orlando and I specifically remember this, because Bianchi writes for the Sentinel, but essentially Bianchi asked McSharkfvcker a question after the bowl game win about "momentum" heading into the next year. McSharkfvcker then turned it into a comment about waiting to see what level of "commitment" would be offered by the UF administration.

Now, you need to understand why this comment started to destroy the relationship. For one thing, the AD was brand-new at the time, so to act as if he was not fully committed is just crazy and premature. For another thing, UF was doing all kinds of stuff for McSharkfvcker that they had not done before, including an Indoor Practice Facility and the contract extension that we all know about.

So when people wonder about the motivation of the UAA statement (about talking with the Corch about death threats and him not offering any further information), you can see that the UAA did to Mac what Mac did to them (i.e., involving a bus and throwing and whatnot).

The stuff has been going downhill for a year. I believe that the AD still gave Mac the extension under the thought that the post-bowl-game comments were just a one-time aberration. But the Corch continued to ramble during his press conferences until the press was treating it like a Howard Stern show...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G6xu-J_Dmc

 

[Canes2082]

The extension Mac received last year was from the former AD...it was part of his plan as he was leaving. This new AD wasn't liking it

 

[TheOriginalCane]

The extension Mac received last year was from the former AD...it was part of his plan as he was leaving. This new AD wasn't liking it

McSharkfvcker got a raise and an extension in June 2017. That was under the new AD.

 

[orange&green84]

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Smh LOL #AllBite18

I almost feel bad for them... But, I **** sure can't wait til 2019.

How long ago were Gaytor fans mocking us for the "1000% committed" tweets that our recruits were sending out?

Seems a lot better now than the "I'm not doing any interviews" theme.

 

[RVACane]

Guy gets them back to back SEC East titles in his first two yrs and gets fired 3rd year. U had a guy who's arguably a top 3 coach in the NCAA, who led UF to two national titles, fake a heart attack to bounce. Muskrat created a solid def under his watch, sending multiple first rounders to the NFL...axed unceremoniously, and now MacTooth gets the boot after two SEC East titles. What about how they did the old ball coach? UF is a horrible gig; one of the worst in the nation.

The fake death threats is what got him fired

I agree with you both, but there has to be more to this story. This guy got them 2 consecutive SEC East titles, and then he gets fired all of a sudden in Year 3? Don’t forget that UF had just given him a raise and a contract extension over the Summer.

So to Rell’s point, what the **** happened so quickly to warrant the fast firing? OK, they underachieved this year but you would think that the suspensions give him an alibi for at least another year.

Must have been bad blood somewhere between him and the athletic department because it just doesn’t add up.

Either way, it’s going to make potential candidates think very long and hard about walking into that $hitstorm knowing they could face the same quick hook.

There have been comments on their board recently that he wasn't liked within the Athletic Department or by other coaches from other sports. Apparently, he never participated in things with the other sports' coaches which rubbed his counterparts wrong.

First, the comment about other sports was about Urban (and even if it was also true of McSharkfvcker, it was DEFINITELY true of Urban).

Second, there is a very good article on SI.com right now about the firing of McSharkfvcker. Andy Staples is a UF alum, so I think he is pretty dialed in about this. More importantly, he pinpoints when this all started to unravel, and it was a year ago. I'm from Orlando and I specifically remember this, because Bianchi writes for the Sentinel, but essentially Bianchi asked McSharkfvcker a question after the bowl game win about "momentum" heading into the next year. McSharkfvcker then turned it into a comment about waiting to see what level of "commitment" would be offered by the UF administration.

Now, you need to understand why this comment started to destroy the relationship. For one thing, the AD was brand-new at the time, so to act as if he was not fully committed is just crazy and premature. For another thing, UF was doing all kinds of stuff for McSharkfvcker that they had not done before, including an Indoor Practice Facility and the contract extension that we all know about.

So when people wonder about the motivation of the UAA statement (about talking with the Corch about death threats and him not offering any further information), you can see that the UAA did to Mac what Mac did to them (i.e., involving a bus and throwing and whatnot).

The stuff has been going downhill for a year. I believe that the AD still gave Mac the extension under the thought that the post-bowl-game comments were just a one-time aberration. But the Corch continued to ramble during his press conferences until the press was treating it like a Howard Stern show...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G6xu-J_Dmc

Wow... I didn't know any of this. That explains a lot about the sour relationship. Great info as usual.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Whoever has VIP status on GAYtorbait...

See if you can post the "Swamp Secrets" article.

Good lord, it is so bad over there that they are even making OT threads "VIP only".

 

[RVACane]

Whoever has VIP status on GAYtorbait...

See if you can post the "Swamp Secrets" article.

Good lord, it is so bad over there that they are even making OT threads "VIP only".

I know, it's crazy. They locked it down once the rumors of Mac being out started flying. [MENTION=13955]Zbrod95[/MENTION], [MENTION=5943]Canes2082[/MENTION], [MENTION=6214]Cash[/MENTION]...anyone with access please help. We can't see much. Thanks.

 

[DusseDez]

Whoever has VIP status on GAYtorbait...

See if you can post the "Swamp Secrets" article.

Good lord, it is so bad over there that they are even making OT threads "VIP only".

Matt Corral still firm on his commitment as of right now but if a West Coast team gives him the green light down the road it could get interesting. Jacob Copeland is on flip watch more with the coaching change Bama pushing. T Thornton might open his options mentioned us being interested in him a few months ago. Jamar Chase might be going to LSU, TCU & Miami might try to make a late push. Stevenson(2019) CB says he’s still locked in but Miami has been trying to flip before dentures even got fired.

 

[RVACane]

Whoever has VIP status on GAYtorbait...

See if you can post the "Swamp Secrets" article.

Good lord, it is so bad over there that they are even making OT threads "VIP only".

Matt Corral still firm on his commitment as of right now but if a West Coast team gives him the green light down the road it could get interesting. Jacob Copeland is on flip watch more with the coaching change Bama pushing. T Thornton might open his options mentioned us being interested in him a few months ago. Jamar Chase might be going to LSU, TCU & Miami might try to make a late push. Stevenson(2019) CB says he’s still locked in but Miami has been trying to flip before dentures even got fired.

Thanks, man. This is the first I've heard about us being interested in Chase.

 

[killa1storm]

Guy gets them back to back SEC East titles in his first two yrs and gets fired 3rd year. U had a guy who's arguably a top 3 coach in the NCAA, who led UF to two national titles, fake a heart attack to bounce. Muskrat created a solid def under his watch, sending multiple first rounders to the NFL...axed unceremoniously, and now MacTooth gets the boot after two SEC East titles. What about how they did the old ball coach? UF is a horrible gig; one of the worst in the nation.

The fake death threats is what got him fired

I agree with you both, but there has to be more to this story. This guy got them 2 consecutive SEC East titles, and then he gets fired all of a sudden in Year 3? Don’t forget that UF had just given him a raise and a contract extension over the Summer.

So to Rell’s point, what the **** happened so quickly to warrant the fast firing? OK, they underachieved this year but you would think that the suspensions give him an alibi for at least another year.

Must have been bad blood somewhere between him and the athletic department because it just doesn’t add up.

Either way, it’s going to make potential candidates think very long and hard about walking into that $hitstorm knowing they could face the same quick hook.

This hasn't come out yet, and may not come out, but UF hired a private investigator to look into these supposed death threats. That's how they knew he ultimately lied. In addition to that he's basically been giving the middle finger to his superiors for more than a year, I posted about all those things before the season. And like I told y'all he wasn't getting anywhere near 12 million, and you see the news is starting to leak about him getting 4 million.

UF basically told him "you're fired after what we uncovered, you can either take 4 million which is equal to his salary and go away quietly or we release our findings and if you want to go to court so be it." Like I said the other day, he wasn't amendable to a buyout for no reason. UF had tons of leverage.

 

[RVACane]

Guy gets them back to back SEC East titles in his first two yrs and gets fired 3rd year. U had a guy who's arguably a top 3 coach in the NCAA, who led UF to two national titles, fake a heart attack to bounce. Muskrat created a solid def under his watch, sending multiple first rounders to the NFL...axed unceremoniously, and now MacTooth gets the boot after two SEC East titles. What about how they did the old ball coach? UF is a horrible gig; one of the worst in the nation.

The fake death threats is what got him fired

I agree with you both, but there has to be more to this story. This guy got them 2 consecutive SEC East titles, and then he gets fired all of a sudden in Year 3? Don’t forget that UF had just given him a raise and a contract extension over the Summer.

So to Rell’s point, what the **** happened so quickly to warrant the fast firing? OK, they underachieved this year but you would think that the suspensions give him an alibi for at least another year.

Must have been bad blood somewhere between him and the athletic department because it just doesn’t add up.

Either way, it’s going to make potential candidates think very long and hard about walking into that $hitstorm knowing they could face the same quick hook.

This hasn't come out yet, and may not come out, but UF hired a private investigator to look into these supposed death threats. That's how they knew he ultimately lied. In addition to that he's basically been giving the middle finger to his superiors for more than a year, I posted about all those things before the season. And like I told y'all he wasn't getting anywhere near 12 million, and you see the news is starting to leak about him getting 4 million.

UF basically told him "you're fired after what we uncovered, you can either take 4 million which is equal to his salary and go away quietly or we release our findings and if you want to go to court so be it." Like I said the other day, he wasn't amendable to a buyout for no reason. UF had tons of leverage.

This doesn't shock me. I knew they weren't stroking him a $12.9M check but I'm surprised the number is that low though. I thought I read on the UCF board that Frost doesn't like how UiF handled the McEltooth situation and that he doesn't want a part of them. It may just be rumor and speculation. Maybe you've heard something about it?

 

[The Sphinx]

The fake death threats is what got him fired

I agree with you both, but there has to be more to this story. This guy got them 2 consecutive SEC East titles, and then he gets fired all of a sudden in Year 3? Don’t forget that UF had just given him a raise and a contract extension over the Summer.

So to Rell’s point, what the **** happened so quickly to warrant the fast firing? OK, they underachieved this year but you would think that the suspensions give him an alibi for at least another year.

Must have been bad blood somewhere between him and the athletic department because it just doesn’t add up.

Either way, it’s going to make potential candidates think very long and hard about walking into that $hitstorm knowing they could face the same quick hook.

There have been comments on their board recently that he wasn't liked within the Athletic Department or by other coaches from other sports. Apparently, he never participated in things with the other sports' coaches which rubbed his counterparts wrong.

First, the comment about other sports was about Urban (and even if it was also true of McSharkfvcker, it was DEFINITELY true of Urban).

Second, there is a very good article on SI.com right now about the firing of McSharkfvcker. Andy Staples is a UF alum, so I think he is pretty dialed in about this. More importantly, he pinpoints when this all started to unravel, and it was a year ago. I'm from Orlando and I specifically remember this, because Bianchi writes for the Sentinel, but essentially Bianchi asked McSharkfvcker a question after the bowl game win about "momentum" heading into the next year. McSharkfvcker then turned it into a comment about waiting to see what level of "commitment" would be offered by the UF administration.

Now, you need to understand why this comment started to destroy the relationship. For one thing, the AD was brand-new at the time, so to act as if he was not fully committed is just crazy and premature. For another thing, UF was doing all kinds of stuff for McSharkfvcker that they had not done before, including an Indoor Practice Facility and the contract extension that we all know about.

So when people wonder about the motivation of the UAA statement (about talking with the Corch about death threats and him not offering any further information), you can see that the UAA did to Mac what Mac did to them (i.e., involving a bus and throwing and whatnot).

The stuff has been going downhill for a year. I believe that the AD still gave Mac the extension under the thought that the post-bowl-game comments were just a one-time aberration. But the Corch continued to ramble during his press conferences until the press was treating it like a Howard Stern show...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G6xu-J_Dmc

Wow... I didn't know any of this. That explains a lot about the sour relationship. Great info as usual.

Yep. Makes a whole lot more sense. Basically, he was quietly on thin ice, and the fake death threats was the last straw.

They should have known what type of arrogant ******* they were dealing with as soon as he made his famous, 'I can win with my dog playing QB', statement....

Regarding their recruits sticking -- bull&hit. Those guys did not sign up to play for Randy Shannon as HC, and if they are hoping for an Urban 2.0, they are going to be severely disappointed. Recruiters are quietly circling these guys like vultures. They'll get picked apart soon enough.

 

[killa1storm]

Guy gets them back to back SEC East titles in his first two yrs and gets fired 3rd year. U had a guy who's arguably a top 3 coach in the NCAA, who led UF to two national titles, fake a heart attack to bounce. Muskrat created a solid def under his watch, sending multiple first rounders to the NFL...axed unceremoniously, and now MacTooth gets the boot after two SEC East titles. What about how they did the old ball coach? UF is a horrible gig; one of the worst in the nation.

The fake death threats is what got him fired

I agree with you both, but there has to be more to this story. This guy got them 2 consecutive SEC East titles, and then he gets fired all of a sudden in Year 3? Don’t forget that UF had just given him a raise and a contract extension over the Summer.

So to Rell’s point, what the **** happened so quickly to warrant the fast firing? OK, they underachieved this year but you would think that the suspensions give him an alibi for at least another year.

Must have been bad blood somewhere between him and the athletic department because it just doesn’t add up.

Either way, it’s going to make potential candidates think very long and hard about walking into that $hitstorm knowing they could face the same quick hook.

This hasn't come out yet, and may not come out, but UF hired a private investigator to look into these supposed death threats. That's how they knew he ultimately lied. In addition to that he's basically been giving the middle finger to his superiors for more than a year, I posted about all those things before the season. And like I told y'all he wasn't getting anywhere near 12 million, and you see the news is starting to leak about him getting 4 million.

UF basically told him "you're fired after what we uncovered, you can either take 4 million which is equal to his salary and go away quietly or we release our findings and if you want to go to court so be it." Like I said the other day, he wasn't amendable to a buyout for no reason. UF had tons of leverage.

This doesn't shock me. I knew they weren't stroking him a $12.9M check but I'm surprised the number is that low though. I thought I read on the UCF board that Frost doesn't like how UiF handled the McEltooth situation and that he doesn't want a part of them. It may just be rumor and speculation. Maybe you've heard something about it?

Haven't heard anything on Frost not liking how McElwain is treated. Only thing I've heard is that he recently moved his entire family to Florida, so the belief is that he'll be in Florida for a while longer. I've heard Campbell is the preferred choice but they're weary of his buyout at almost 10 million. Mullen is the safe choice and would stabilize the program but they worry about his long-term potential.

 

[919cane]

AllBite18? LMAO hadn't seen that one before

 

[Canes2082]

The extension Mac received last year was from the former AD...it was part of his plan as he was leaving. This new AD wasn't liking it

McSharkfvcker got a raise and an extension in June 2017. That was under the new AD.

Correct but gators board said that came from Foley just before his departure. Like it was written or promised to him before their new AD took over. New AD didn't want to give it because Mac wasn't his guy and didn't like him but something must have occurred that Mac got it

 

[TheOriginalCane]

The extension Mac received last year was from the former AD...it was part of his plan as he was leaving. This new AD wasn't liking it

McSharkfvcker got a raise and an extension in June 2017. That was under the new AD.

Correct but gators board said that came from Foley just before his departure. Like it was written or promised to him before their new AD took over. New AD didn't want to give it because Mac wasn't his guy and didn't like him but something must have occurred that Mac got it

Stricklin was named the UF AD in September of 2016. The extension was not done until June 2017. Even if Foley made a verbal promise one day before he cleaned out his desk based on the 2015 SEC-East finish, Stricklin still had ample opportunity to renege or re-do the deal.

Sorry, but it's on Stricklin. He was there for 9 months prior to the signing. It doesn't take 9 months to do an extension/raise.

Oh, and "Gaytor boards" lie. It is just typical aberrant behavior for a Gaytor fan to blame everything on the guy who no longer works there...