Tears Gator Tears

[TheOriginalCane]

Billy wants no part of going to Athens

Smart's recruiting pitch: Play UGA-UF on campus

Georgia coach Kirby Smart made a strong case for moving the Georgia-Florida game to the schools' campuses rather than playing it in Jacksonville, Florida, every season, in an effort to aid recruiting.

www.espn.com

I don't understand why this is so difficult on UGa's part...

DON'T SIGN THE CONTRACT.

They are in the same division as the Gaytors. What are the Gaytors going to do, refuse to play the game because it's not in Jacksonville?

KIRBY, DON'T LET YOUR AD OR PRESIDENT SIGN THE CONTRACT. FVCK WHAT THE GAYTOR CORCHES SAY.

Don't do it. Just say no to Jax.

 

[wnycanesfan]

So the UF coaches are as delusional as their fans. His tape should start and end with insert run first QB here. I guess you could show him Allens running plays but that would be about it.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

That name is an Abor15ion…

Hey, try to have some understanding and kindness. "Overcome the Adversity" was a failed abortion himself...

 

[wnycanesfan]

So no one is gonna point out that their “star all American heisman Aaron Rodger lite cam Newton quarterback” Anthony Richardson is driving a Camry and TVD is driving a 7 series bmw?

Bad look either way. Either the best NIL car deal he could get was a Camry or the best he could do with his monetary deal from their collective.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Don't matter what he or Kirby Smart wants, the game ain't leaving Jacksonville in our lifetime so idk why they keep bringing this up. Jax will do everything to keep the game in Jax and that's going to be what happens.

This is where Gaytor fans, even the two or three good ones, need to get a grip. Does "Jax" have blackmail photos of UGa? Last I checked, UGa was entitled to its own thoughts on the matter. If UGa wants to flip the game to a home-and-home, so be it. The days of one profitable neutral site game being the difference between profit or loss on a budget are gone. SEC's gonna be paying close to 100M per year, no matter where that game is played.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

So no one is gonna point out that their “star all American heisman Aaron Rodger lite cam Newton quarterback” Anthony Richardson is driving a Camry and TVD is driving a 7 series bmw?

Someone needs to create a side-by-side photo, TVD in his BMW and AR15 in his Camry.

 

[WaterburyCane]

It also hurts Florida too... thats why I was saying why wouldn't they want to be able to host recruits on campus for a big game??

I would be ****ed if Miami and FSU decided to play in Orlando every year... I love the home and home

Oh absolutely. I was just looking at it from Smarts viewpoint pertaining to the article. FL misses out on a home too. So the money both receive from Jax must be pretty substantial for both teams to give that up

now just in terms of the game, Billy didn’t come across too eager to play in Athens lol

Any idea what the breakdown is at that stadium for fan base? On paper seems like a home and home for Fl. Now I’m sure GA fans show up particularly well for that game. But is it close to 50/50 or “neutral” 12th man advantage? Whatever it is, wouldn’t be like playing in Athens. Billy would be shaking in his overalls when he walked into that stadium

 

[WaterburyCane]

I don't understand why this is so difficult on UGa's part...

DON'T SIGN THE CONTRACT.

They are in the same division as the Gaytors. What are the Gaytors going to do, refuse to play the game because it's not in Jacksonville?

KIRBY, DON'T LET YOUR AD OR PRESIDENT SIGN THE CONTRACT. FVCK WHAT THE GAYTOR CORCHES SAY.

Don't do it. Just say no to Jax.

**** straight. You need 2 signatures on that contract. I cant imagine the difference of what Jax pays them and what they make now for home games is a huge margin. Unless they are just trying to play a little public negotiating tactic with Jax if the contract is coming up for renewal.

 

[Umbra]

They don’t, they have the same power and authority as your local PTA.
They have no say, it’s up to the schools.
It’s been played in Jax for so long, mostly due to tradition.
Tradition’s are being broken like crazy in college football, would not be surprised GA says no way anymore and it goes to home n home.

This offseason has showed us that there is no such thing as tradition when money is at stake.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Oh absolutely. I was just looking at it from Smarts viewpoint pertaining to the article. FL misses out on a home too. So the money both receive from Jax must be pretty substantial for both teams to give that up

now just in terms of the game, Billy didn’t come across too eager to play in Athens lol

Any idea what the breakdown is at that stadium for fan base? On paper seems like a home and home for Fl. Now I’m sure GA fans show up particularly well for that game. But is it close to 50/50 or “neutral” 12th man advantage? Whatever it is, wouldn’t be like playing in Athens. Billy would be shaking in his overalls when he walked into that stadium

Here's the thing, the money HAS been very substantial in the past.

BUT...

Neither school went broke when they had to move 2 games to home-and-home when Jax renovated the stadium for the Jags.

And now that the SEC payout is sooooooo high (and regardless of where games are played), you are not really seeing the same impact on each school's budget.

Here's the funny thing...the more schools the SEC adds and the bigger the TV contract gets, the higher the SEC payout gets. But what can Jax do to every increase the payout for Florida-Georgia? Double the ticket price? It's a god**** SEC game, there's no extra TV money for holding the game in Jax. So, someday, some way, the total impact the Florida-Georgia has on each school's athletic budget...will get smaller and smaller, particularly when you know you have a very nice revenue offset by going back to home-and-home.

Look there's only ONE way this works: SEC goes to 9 games. 4 home, 4 away, and ONE permanent-rivalry game at a neutral site:

Jax - Florida-Georgia
Birmingham - Alabama-Auburn
Dallas - Texas-OU
St. Louis - Mizzou-Arkansas
Houston - aTm-LSU
Memphis - Tennessee-Vandy
Charlotte - South Carolina-Kentucky
New Orleans - Ole Miss-Mississippi State

It's like a barnstorming tour. Take all these rural hick towns to the big city for one big night. You could either do it all on the same weekend, or space one game per week, and try to get GameDay to pick as many of those games as possible, since those venues rarely get a regular-season college game of this magnitude.

 

[Cryptical Envelopment]

It also hurts Florida too... thats why I was saying why wouldn't they want to be able to host recruits on campus for a big game??

I would be ****ed if Miami and FSU decided to play in Orlando every year... I love the home and home

JAX is a 5.5 hour drive (without traffic) from UGA (that means an overnight for almost all UGA fans coming from Athens) vs. barely over an hour from Gainesville. It's also in UF's home state of FL of course.

If I'm UGA I'm saying, yeah, it's over. We are not renewing, end of discussion. Sue us. We will do a home and home from here on.

Or, alternatively, we can discuss alternating years between Jacksonville and Atlanta (Atlanta is literally slightly LESS of a distance advantage for UGA over UF than Jax is for UF over UGA) if we can get a waiver to designate each respective location as a home game by the NCAA. Both situations (UF in JAX and UGA in ATL) are almost the exact same thing/distance as Alabama playing some home games in Birmingham, which they did up until 2003.

@flagator86 what legal/contractual/other obligation does UGA have to play this game in JAX once the contract expires?

 

[supacane]

Neutral site games should be moved to post season only. That **** is for some rich mofos who don't even follow football. I would get rid of them. Sign a home and home. It be nice to see the Canes go to USC or Oregon, the big house. Why wouldn't you want these big matchups in your stadium and also to visit the other team. I'm looking forward to us playing at Auburn and Texas A&M this season.

 

[Caned Peach]

Oh absolutely. I was just looking at it from Smarts viewpoint pertaining to the article. FL misses out on a home too. So the money both receive from Jax must be pretty substantial for both teams to give that up

now just in terms of the game, Billy didn’t come across too eager to play in Athens lol

Any idea what the breakdown is at that stadium for fan base? On paper seems like a home and home for Fl. Now I’m sure GA fans show up particularly well for that game. But is it close to 50/50 or “neutral” 12th man advantage? Whatever it is, wouldn’t be like playing in Athens. Billy would be shaking in his overalls when he walked into that stadium

It's a 50/50 game unless one side is doing great vs not so much on the other. Like now. Wouldn't surprise me to see more red and black in the seats this fall or maybe even for the next couple of seasons.

 

[flagator86]

Oh absolutely. I was just looking at it from Smarts viewpoint pertaining to the article. FL misses out on a home too. So the money both receive from Jax must be pretty substantial for both teams to give that up

now just in terms of the game, Billy didn’t come across too eager to play in Athens lol

Any idea what the breakdown is at that stadium for fan base? On paper seems like a home and home for Fl. Now I’m sure GA fans show up particularly well for that game. But is it close to 50/50 or “neutral” 12th man advantage? Whatever it is, wouldn’t be like playing in Athens. Billy would be shaking in his overalls when he walked into that stadium

The game is split down the middle 50/50 in the crowd so it’s not like since it’s played in Jax, the Gators get a home field advantage

@flagator86 what legal/contractual/other obligation does UGA have to play this game in JAX once the contract expires?

Not sure but they, both sides, agreed in 2019 to extend the contract until 2025 so all this is a moot point.

I personally wouldn’t mind it being in Gainesville, then Athens, then Jax, then Atlanta on a yearly rotating basis

“Beginning in 2020, each team will get $1 million, according to the memo of understanding. It remains $1 million in 2021 and increases to $1.25 million in 2022 and 2023.”

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UF and UGa had been getting $250,000 each under the terms of the current contract, which was signed March 16, 2016, and ran through 2021.

The two teams split the gate, which comes to around $3.3 million each per year. That means by 2022, each team will receive more than $4.5 million. This year, each team gets about $3.55 million.”

Florida-Georgia game contract to be extended through 2025

The annual Florida-Georgia game will remain in Jacksonville for at least five more years, according to the terms of a deal the city has reached with the two schools.

www.jacksonville.com

 

[flagator86]

This is where Gaytor fans, even the two or three good ones, need to get a grip. Does "Jax" have blackmail photos of UGa? Last I checked, UGa was entitled to its own thoughts on the matter. If UGa wants to flip the game to a home-and-home, so be it. The days of one profitable neutral site game being the difference between profit or loss on a budget are gone. SEC's gonna be paying close to 100M per year, no matter where that game is played.

Again, Kirby and Mullen both shared interest in the game being played outside of Jax, and guess what, nothing happened. Their higher ups shut that down quick and I dont see when the contract is up in 2025 being any different. Both coaches cant say or desire for whatever, but they aint got pull like that no matter who they are

 

[hoops156]

Again, Kirby and Mullen both shared interest in the game being played outside of Jax, and guess what, nothing happened. Their higher ups shut that down quick and I dont see when the contract is up in 2025 being any different. Both coaches cant say or desire for whatever, but they aint got pull like that no matter who they are

they're not gonna move that game. there's too much tradition in doing it in jax. that game has withstood countless coaches from both sides. it'll continue to do so when they're gone too. I also think it is a cool thing that its done in neutral site. I liked when we played UF at a neutral site too. diff energy. it'd be cool to do a home and home but the neutral site games are fun too

 

[flagator86]

I would be ****ed if Miami and FSU decided to play in Orlando every year... I love the home and home

Because that’s been the way forever, same with Florida vs Georgia.

 

[hoops156]

Because that’s been the way forever, same with Florida vs Georgia.

its like texas-OU. its always played in Dallas.

 

[Cryptical Envelopment]

The game is split down the middle 50/50 in the crowd so it’s not like since it’s played in Jax, the Gators get a home field advantage




Not sure but they, both sides, agreed in 2019 to extend the contract until 2025 so all this is a moot point.

“Beginning in 2020, each team will get $1 million, according to the memo of understanding. It remains $1 million in 2021 and increases to $1.25 million in 2022 and 2023.”

Florida-Georgia game contract to be extended through 2025

The annual Florida-Georgia game will remain in Jacksonville for at least five more years, according to the terms of a deal the city has reached with the two schools.

www.jacksonville.com

I know its split 50/50. But that doesn't mean that there isn't a massive convenience advantage for UF fans, and it doesn't mean that that location advantage doesn't continue into the after market. You think every ticket that is distributed gets used by the fan that bought them? There are already tons of tickets for the game on Stubhub and on scalper sites, all available to anyone from any team. Those numbers will grow as we get into the fall. It's dumb. The only reason this is still happening is money. Just money.

Also, not sure about 2025. Did something happen recently? This quote is from June 1, 2022:

Georgia athletic director Josh Brooks: “We’re not in the discussion of that right now,” Brooks said. “We signed a deal a few years ago with an option for two more years (through 2023), we haven’t gotten into the weeds on that yet. We’ll discuss that at a different time. It just hasn’t been on our radar right now with other pressing matters.”

 

[hoops156]

smart got a 10 year 112 mill extension