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This just proves there are rapists and idiots on every college team. If UM handles this in the same way FSU did, I'm done with college sports.
 
http://espn.go.com/college-football...miami-hurricanes-players-arrested-***-charges

"According to the police report, obtained by The Palm Beach Post, both players admitted to buying drinks for the victim, bringing her back to Figueroa's dorm room in the early morning hours of July 5 and performing sexual acts, including intercourse, without her consent while she was "physically helpless to resist."

Both players face charges of sexual battery on a physically helpless victim and are being held on $10,000 bond, according to the Miami-Dade County records obtained by the Post."

No mention of drugs.
 
CaneStuck@USF said:
BWCD said:
txcanes said:
Get used to this from fans like Bwcd, life is over, sky is falling, we should forfeit, blah blah. O don't contradict him, he is a recruiting guru, rpi expert, etc. Just ignore him. Only way I saw it was all the embedded threads, bad read.
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Mind your own business, fvckwad. Keep your idiocy on the Baseball board, we don't need it here.

I never said "life is over, sky is falling, we should forfeit". I said I think it's going to adversely affect recruiting, and last more than 1 day in the news cycle...and said if I was wrong, that I'd rep those that were correct.

So, again--fvck you.

Oh, and somebody quote this so that tard can see it since he has me on ignore.
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I'm not sure if it will really have a negative affect recruiting. Unless of course, the recruits were interested in coming to Miami to rape girls. But in that case, I'm pretty sure FSU would be their preferred destination anyways. If anything, I think it may end up being a positive for both recruits and parents in showing that Miami does not tolerate bullsh!t like this.
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I hope I'm wrong, and I hope you're right. I'm simply highly skeptical that this will be the way that Saban/Jimbo/Muschamp and others will try to twist this situation when speaking to recruits and their families that we're going against them for.
 
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ristwasdown said:
You guys are ridiculous.

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This states that the two admitted to buying drinks and having *** with her. Most likely the girl said she would be pressing charges and they turned themselves in.

Now, it will come down if she was helpless, as she was not a minor and age of consent is 17.

They may have self incriminated their selves depending on how much they said, but there could be a trial and they found not guilty if the girl were to say she knew what was going on.

There is a reason we have due process and innocent until proven guilty.

These boys may be guilty, but the judge decides that, not you or anyone on twitter.

The girl hasn't spoke yet.
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In the penultimate sentence in the last paragraph, they admit to performing sexual acts WITHOUT HER CONSENT. Another way of saying they have admitted to raping her.

Obviously, this does not align with our core values.
 
Cash said:
emrok said:
CaneSince4Ever said:
canesman said:
Statutory rape of a girl they provided alcohol to and drugged.
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There was no statutory rape, all 3 met the age of consent in Florida.

(1) A person 24 years of age or older who engages in sexual activity with a person 16 or 17 years of age commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, "sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; however, sexual activity does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.

What it's gonna come down to basically, is did they drug, and have *** with the "victim" against her will.
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She didn't consent and is under 18. They raped a minor, right?
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If she had consented no, but since she didn't yes... & on school property so the University could find itself in a lawsuit too.
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UM could find itself in a lawsuit but it wont' hold.. unless this was UM's fault or UM could prevent this and did not.


for example when they took her back to the dorms did the front door RA notice she was drunk as **** and didn't do anything about it? did she live in the same dorm and used her own Cane card to get in.


Rapes on college campuses happen everywhere.. some get reported. Schools are only found liable if they decided to play around and try to hide it under a rug so it gave the rapist the idea that he can get away with it. Miami is not that kind of school. FSU on the other hand can and will get sued because they had a hand in slowing down and hindering with rape investigations.
 
unionandsixth said:
ristwasdown said:
You guys are ridiculous.

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This states that the two admitted to buying drinks and having *** with her. Most likely the girl said she would be pressing charges and they turned themselves in.

Now, it will come down if she was helpless, as she was not a minor and age of consent is 17.

They may have self incriminated their selves depending on how much they said, but there could be a trial and they found not guilty if the girl were to say she knew what was going on.

There is a reason we have due process and innocent until proven guilty.

These boys may be guilty, but the judge decides that, not you or anyone on twitter.

The girl hasn't spoke yet.
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In the penultimate sentence in the last paragraph, they admit to performing sexual acts WITHOUT HER CONSENT. Another way of saying they have admitted to raping her.

Obviously, this does not align with our core values.
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No sir, you don't understand a police report. The first paragraph highlights that being drunk of alcohol alters her way of thinking, a.k.a her consent.

If they admitted they had *** with her while she was drunk, then the police offer could plainly label that as them admitting to have *** with her without her consent, especially if she had been talking to the police beforehand.

The guys can't say really if she consented, unless she repeatedly said no, and that is no where in the police report.

Police write up these reports a certain way for a reason. I am sure there is a recording of what they actually admitted to.
 
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These two are DONE.

Think we will be fine. Our starting 3 will be Denzel, Kirby and Grace and I think we will be fine. Cause Grace has really been coming on. And if Kirby lives up to billing and hype. We will be fine.

Yeah sucks losing Figs but we need to move on. His career is done before it even really got started. Young promising player, reminds me of what happened with Eddie. Stupid man, just stupid.

Think Owens and Young are gonna bring some impact too.
 
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MiamiVice7 said:
112_cane said:
cane since birth said:
rudebuddha said:
The Dude said:
Honestly, what is even worse is that the "victim" was underage...regardless if they raped her or not, the fact that she is underage is what will get them booted off of the team.
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The report said juvenile, but then said all parties involved are UM students.

Personally, I'm a big fan of the whole, "innocent until proven guilty," aspect of our judicial system.
Burden of proof is on the prosecution and not the defendant.

Let's not rush to judgement until actual facts are known.
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They also ADMITTED to the crimes. What else do you want???
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Allegedly.

First and foremost: obviously, if this is true, these dudes deserve what they have coming. That said, innocent until proven guilty is the way it's set up. And it's not like there's never been anyone wrongfully accused, or nobody's ever been alleged to have admitted something only to find out later that it's not true (whether statements were misinterpreted, fabricated, or otherwise).

Ever seen My Cousin Vinny? "I shot the clerk...I shot the clerk." It happens.

If I had to guess, these guys are toast and probably should be. But it's a guess. No doubt this all looks about as bad as it gets in terms of initial reports. But it's easy to rush to judgment. I remember about a week ago social media was going nuts trying to save the "father" in Georgia that left his kid in the car. Now, as more information comes out, everyone's ready to crucify him.

We'll see how this goes, but so far it's ugly.
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They turned themselves in so allegedly is thrown out the window.
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