Figatron and Jawand Blue

[itsacanething]

Way overblown with the drama there. Two players committed a crime and were quickly and decisively dismissed from the team. To say this could be as bad as "the Cloud" is just silly. All of the criminal problems at other schools, in which those schools didn't handle it nearly as well as UM did, certainly haven't hurt their recruiting.

I may be overreacting, and if it turns out that I did--I'll own up to it in front of everyone on here, and that's a promise. I'm not afraid of that.

However, this is going to be bad. There's no way to turn it around and make it good once the narrative hits ESPN...especially with the details rolling out. This will be used against us by anyone and everyone who feels like trying to use it.

what precedent do you have for this belief? its only becomes a big deal when the players get special treatment. the school or coaches are not immune from societies bad apples...its how they deal with them. this was dealt with perfectly.

 

[freespirted305]

Drop it. We don't need our fan base speculating about this ****. It's cover ups that become the big news story. This will be a one day news cycle blurb. If anything the Bruce and Scarlett announcements will put this in the past. Our AD acted swiftly and justly in taking action against two unheralded players. My prayers go out to the Victim and I hope she can receive the help that is needed to overcome this awful event.

Good luck getting him with this press.

From a recruiting perspective, that's the worst part of this. We all thought Bruce/Scarlett were going to announce for us tonight, right? Well...unless they want to look like (to the media) that they're OK with stuff like this going down at Miami...expect them to go on elsewhere now.

This taints us yet again after all of the NCAA ****. I'm about to put these two idiots in the same category of hate I have reserved for Shapiro.

C'mon man. This **** will have no bearing on Bruce and Scarlett's decisions.

I disagree. They could both still announce for Miami tonight, but as this story gets traction in the media and eventually on ESPN...watch what happens.

Unless it gets played up bigtime how well James and the University handled this with swift/quick action to dismiss them from the team and from school, the story will be that two Miami players drugged and raped a 17-year-old girl orally/vaginally/anally. Folks will be in Bruce/Scarlett's ears, and will be dying to use this to turn them from the school.

The timing of this sucks balls. I never want it to happen at all, but for this to break THE DAY OF Bruce/Scarlett's announcements...there will be an impact on their ultimate destination EVEN if they verbally commit to us tonight.

This will affect all recruits as well. Who knows how big this story will get, and if James/the University will get any credit for how they handled it. If it gets bad, we could be just as fvcked as we were under "The Cloud".

maybe it won't get an inordinate about of coverage. these guys are no name guys, not household names. and more importantly it was immediately dealt with. what more can the school do in this situation?

Hoping it won't get a crazy amount of coverage is highly wishful thinking. It's already on Twitter like wildfire, and will end up on SportsCenter tonight, and on College Football Live this afternoon. This didn't have to be Duke Johnson/Denzel Perryman committing this crime...it's Miami football players being bad again, and that's always good enough for the media. Especially given that they have admitted to drugging the victim and getting her drunk.

I'm definitely not knocking the school for how it was handled. I'm proud of that. I'm just looking at it from the POV of what the media will want to report more than anything. They'll want the sordid details of the incident because that drives ratings and viewership. The fact that James/the University acted in a swift manner in dismissing these guys for said sordid affair? Yeah...that won't be what gets the coverage front-and-center...that will likely be a footnote at the end of the report on SC/CFB Live.

I'm just pointing out that it will indeed affect our image, and it will likely affect our recruitment of the 2015 class for sure, and possibly some of the 2016 kids...all due to the negative recruiting that is assuredly coming from Jimbo, Muschamp, Saban, Petrino, Strong, and whoever else is up against us for recruits.

 

[BWCD]

One day story? Sure. At most other schools.

Are you forgetting how the Shapiro article got traction, even though a large amount of it was false? And why did it snowball? Because it happened at Miami.

I'll be shocked if this doesn't get mentioned at least once on Labor Day night's broadcast on ESPN.

 

[112_cane]

Honestly, what is even worse is that the "victim" was underage...regardless if they raped her or not, the fact that she is underage is what will get them booted off of the team.

The report said juvenile, but then said all parties involved are UM students.

Personally, I'm a big fan of the whole, "innocent until proven guilty," aspect of our judicial system.
Burden of proof is on the prosecution and not the defendant.

Let's not rush to judgement until actual facts are known.

They also ADMITTED to the crimes. What else do you want???

 

[cane since birth]

Way overblown with the drama there. Two players committed a crime and were quickly and decisively dismissed from the team. To say this could be as bad as "the Cloud" is just silly. All of the criminal problems at other schools, in which those schools didn't handle it nearly as well as UM did, certainly haven't hurt their recruiting.

I may be overreacting, and if it turns out that I did--I'll own up to it in front of everyone on here, and that's a promise. I'm not afraid of that.

However, this is going to be bad. There's no way to turn it around and make it good once the narrative hits ESPN...especially with the details rolling out. This will be used against us by anyone and everyone who feels like trying to use it.

why dont we see how ESPN reports it, for all we know they will say it was a great move by the program to dismiss them

 

[Canesfan1899]

Wow! Alot of guys rushing to judgment here. How about we hear the facts first. Quite frankly, girls nowadays, you never know. We though JWinston was cooked but there just wasnt enough evidence supposedly to charge him. There is unfortunately a very thin line between consensual *** and rape with some of these girls nowadays if you dont call them the night after. Just sayin..Lets hear the facts first.

(And just for the record, I have 3 daughters and 11 grand-daughters. So I am sensitive to the issue here.)

If girl was underage there is no line, not in FL. 17 will get you 15.

In Florida consensual *** with a 16-17 year old is legal as long as you are 24 years old and under, and the 16-17 year old is not disabled.

They admitted to drugging her and getting her drunk, they're screwed.

 

[cane since birth]

One day story? Sure. At most other schools.

Are you forgetting how the Shapiro article got traction, even though a large amount of it was false? And why did it snowball? Because it happened at Miami.

I'll be shocked if this doesn't get mentioned at least once on Labor Day night's broadcast on ESPN.

you are over reacting just a little bit

 

[rudebuddha]

Finished:

Manny_Navarro: According to the arrest report both Figueroa and Blue admitted to drugging and giving the juvenile alcohol before having *** with her #UM

Jesus. I was giving them the benefit of the doubt, but if they admitted to ruffieing the girl then raping her, then burn them.

 

[itsacanething]

One day story? Sure. At most other schools.

Are you forgetting how the Shapiro article got traction, even though a large amount of it was false? And why did it snowball? Because it happened at Miami.

I'll be shocked if this doesn't get mentioned at least once on Labor Day night's broadcast on ESPN.

players acting on their own commit bad act and are tossed from school and team. no cover up. no special treatment. school is lauded for swift action and coaches are not criticized for going soft on football players..end of story. this is the anti - winston case setting aside his guilt or innocence for arguments sake.

 

[sitzee]

You're ****ing MORON to even try and put the blame on Golden..... He's cleaned up the program and handled the Shapiro mess like a Pro...I'm not a huge fan of his coaching, but when it comes to recruiting (although he's missed on a few big names), and dealing with matters off the field you can't ask for more.... Put the Blame on those 2 morons and givr Credit to the University for doing the right thing.....

How many ****ing linebackers are going to get kicked out of school under Golden's watch?

Johnson
Paul
Terry
Figueroa
Blue

Get it the **** together Al you piece of ****

 

[caneinpsl]

I sick and tired of this bull****.

When the **** are we going to catch a break?

It feels like we're constantly taking one step forward then two steps back.

The University reacted the proper way (unlike that "school" up North), no need for these type of guys representing your team/school.

That being said, something doesn't smell right here.

This is what we're left with:

Imagine where we'd be at LB if Perryman hadn't come back????

As for Figuaroa and Blue they need to lock them up and throw away the key. Getting kicked out of school and off the football team is the least of their problems....

 

[CaneQueTiger]

Its not the end of the world folks. I think they will move Kirby to the strong side, and Grace to the weak side. I think we will be OK with Grace, Perryman, and Kirby as the starters.

 

[freespirted305]

Shapiro got traction because an unethical hack of a journalist hide behind "unnamed sources" to fabricate and sensationalize a story of large reaching improprieties. Thats not the case here.

One day story? Sure. At most other schools.

Are you forgetting how the Shapiro article got traction, even though a large amount of it was false? And why did it snowball? Because it happened at Miami.

I'll be shocked if this doesn't get mentioned at least once on Labor Day night's broadcast on ESPN.

 

[rudebuddha]

Right thing done by dismissing them.... unfortunately people will mother F Golden and say "Jimbo didn't suspend Jameis or the other 2 players until the facts came out."

Winston didn't admit to it.
Our guys did.

Even some our stupid *** "fans" couldn't disparage Golden for booting two guys who admitted drugging and raping an girl.

 

[hoover437]

second year in a row we are losing at least one key contributor. Figatron is a huge lose if they are gone. Kid was looking good for a first year freshman in his limited time on the field. ****.

As someone said in one of the easiest post, they are football players, assault, really. come on man!!!

 

[marshallrc13]

On Fig's birthday no less. ****... Expected big things.

 

[BWCD]

Way overblown with the drama there. Two players committed a crime and were quickly and decisively dismissed from the team. To say this could be as bad as "the Cloud" is just silly. All of the criminal problems at other schools, in which those schools didn't handle it nearly as well as UM did, certainly haven't hurt their recruiting.

I may be overreacting, and if it turns out that I did--I'll own up to it in front of everyone on here, and that's a promise. I'm not afraid of that.

However, this is going to be bad. There's no way to turn it around and make it good once the narrative hits ESPN...especially with the details rolling out. This will be used against us by anyone and everyone who feels like trying to use it.

why dont we see how ESPN reports it, for all we know they will say it was a great move by the program to dismiss them

From your lips to Haysoos' ears, but I doubt it. Some other school--maybe that might be the narrative they roll with. At Miami? It's Miami boys being bad again...cha-ching! Ratings and scandal. Who cares if Blue/Figs both are from Virginia...it's South Florida violence run wild again.

If you guys are right, and this blows over quickly, I'll come back and rep all of you...that's a promise. If not, then I don't want reps/negs either way...I'll be ****ed off enough watching it unfold.

I do NOT want to be right here, but I have a feeling this isn't going to be a "one day story".

 

[TipDrill]

The 7th Floor Crew don't trust no chick.

 

[rok]

You're ****ing MORON to even try and put the blame on Golden..... He's cleaned up the program and handled the Shapiro mess like a Pro...I'm not a huge fan of his coaching, but when it comes to recruiting (although he's missed on a few big names), and dealing with matters off the field you can't ask for more.... Put the Blame on those 2 morons and givr Credit to the University for doing the right thing.....

How many ****ing linebackers are going to get kicked out of school under Golden's watch?

Johnson
Paul
Terry
Figueroa
Blue

Get it the **** together Al you piece of ****

meet me somewhere then talkin all that ****

 

[BWCD]

One day story? Sure. At most other schools.

Are you forgetting how the Shapiro article got traction, even though a large amount of it was false? And why did it snowball? Because it happened at Miami.

I'll be shocked if this doesn't get mentioned at least once on Labor Day night's broadcast on ESPN.

players acting on their own commit bad act and are tossed from school and team. no cover up. no special treatment. school is lauded for swift action and coaches are not criticized for going soft on football players..end of story. this is the anti - winston case setting aside his guilt or innocence for arguments sake.

Please hurry up and go get a job at ESPN so this can be their narrative. I'd kill for this to be the case.