Feldman on Miami & Golden

[Canesfan1899]

Our defensive coordinator has cost us games and recruits for 3 years now.

If he stays, then 3 mediocre years suddenly becomes 6.

I hate how Golden has handled the last month or two but I still have a slight hope that he can be the guy, but he needs help. We have a ton of talent growing up and coming in. Legit talent.

Now we need someone that can maximize it.

Totally agree

 

[MIA42178]

Our defensive coordinator has cost us games and recruits for 3 years now.

If he stays, then 3 mediocre years suddenly becomes 6.

I hate how Golden has handled the last month or two but I still have a slight hope that he can be the guy, but he needs help. We have a ton of talent growing up and coming in. Legit talent.

Now we need someone that can maximize it.

Totally agree

So Golden is NOT in charge of maximizing the talent now?
Excellent!

 

[NVA CANE]

A lot rides on that first game. We get blown out and all the wheels will fall off after the first game. These players don't believe in that ****** scheme. Embarrass them on national television by forcing them to play it and they will throw in the towel like they did last year. Except this time it will happen much sooner. Petrino will be the one to get Golden fired

 

[theibisrules]

Our defensive coordinator has cost us games and recruits for 3 years now.

If he stays, then 3 mediocre years suddenly becomes 6.

I hate how Golden has handled the last month or two but I still have a slight hope that he can be the guy, but he needs help. We have a ton of talent growing up and coming in. Legit talent.

Now we need someone that can maximize it.

Totally agree

If in year 4 we are looking for someone to maximize talent but haven't done anything in the previous 3, what the fck are we paying Gorlden to do here again?

come on man....he's here to manage the NCAA mess! lulz

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

First three seasons:

Shannon:
21-17
Avg Schedule strength: 24
Espn avg class rank: 7

Golden:
22-15
Avg Schedule strength: 53
Espn avg class rank: 10


Golden has a bunch of dudes in love because he was well-spoken at his presser. He's formal Randy Shannon.

I forgot randy led us through a 3 year investigation. Give me a break.

 

[RiDLer80]

First three seasons:

Shannon:
21-17
Avg Schedule strength: 24
Espn avg class rank: 7

Golden:
22-15
Avg Schedule strength: 53
Espn avg class rank: 10


Golden has a bunch of dudes in love because he was well-spoken at his presser. He's formal Randy Shannon.

I forgot randy led us through a 3 year investigation. Give me a break.

Oh noes! The infamous cloud that caused Golden to get out-coached on the the field by teams with lesser talent.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

First three seasons:

Shannon:
21-17
Avg Schedule strength: 24
Espn avg class rank: 7

Golden:
22-15
Avg Schedule strength: 53
Espn avg class rank: 10


Golden has a bunch of dudes in love because he was well-spoken at his presser. He's formal Randy Shannon.

I forgot randy led us through a 3 year investigation. Give me a break.

Oh noes! The infamous cloud that caused Golden to get out-coached on the the field by teams with lesser talent.

I don't disagree with that.


I strongly disagree with anyone comparing randy to golden.

Who else tried to get randy as a coach? Ucla, Tennessee, Penn state?

 

[MIA42178]

First three seasons:

Shannon:
21-17
Avg Schedule strength: 24
Espn avg class rank: 7

Golden:
22-15
Avg Schedule strength: 53
Espn avg class rank: 10


Golden has a bunch of dudes in love because he was well-spoken at his presser. He's formal Randy Shannon.

I forgot randy led us through a 3 year investigation. Give me a break.

What did Gorlden actually do besides allowing the PR train to claim he lead us through the cloud?
Coach L never claimed it

Mike Glazier got us through the NCAA bs.

Y'all actually think Gorlden found all the evidentiary problems w the NCAA case? Lmfao

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

First three seasons:

Shannon:
21-17
Avg Schedule strength: 24
Espn avg class rank: 7

Golden:
22-15
Avg Schedule strength: 53
Espn avg class rank: 10


Golden has a bunch of dudes in love because he was well-spoken at his presser. He's formal Randy Shannon.

I forgot randy led us through a 3 year investigation. Give me a break.

What did Gorlden actually do besides allowing the PR train to claim he lead us through the cloud?
Coach L never claimed it

Mike Glazier got us through the NCAA bs.

Y'all actually think Gorlden found all the evidentiary problems w the NCAA case? Lmfao

Yes we do think that............you got it

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

Bush, Howard, Coley, and aqm wouldn't be here without golden. Get a freaking clue.


Randy recruited highsmith and morris.

 

[hoover437]

First three seasons:

Shannon:
21-17
Avg Schedule strength: 24
Espn avg class rank: 7

Golden:
22-15
Avg Schedule strength: 53
Espn avg class rank: 10


Golden has a bunch of dudes in love because he was well-spoken at his presser. He's formal Randy Shannon.

Not sure what you're trying prove with this comparison except that you're incapable of thinking in abstract and can only digest information on a concrete basis. Typical analysis of a low level thinker.
Looking deeper into that comparison unveils a coach who came in at a disadvantage compared to his predecessor since he didn't know players the players he inherited, unlike Shannon who knew what he was inheriting. Did'n't have the recruiting contacts and relationships built.
Had the disadvantage of a major scandal the would rock the program for 3 critical years blow up in his face 2 weeks before his 1st game.
Had to deal with uncertainty, suspensions, that the NCAA investigations brought and not to mention the negative recruiting that ensued.
Had to deal with the ongoing investigations of his players and resulting low player moral when it was revealed that school would self impose 2 bowl bans. Had to deal with the not getting the benefit of the extra practice time and experience younger players would have gotten had they not self imposed the said bowl bans while his main acc competition did.
Mind you the above Shannon did not have to deal with and yet Golden has a better overall record and can be argued that has pulled better classes.
So no, he's not a formal Randy. THINK beyond what's in front of your face.

This!!!...and is on the brink of bringing in some serious talent. Glad the kids that are signing with us, who actually play the game, don't listen to the fans who consistenlty complain.

 

[hoover437]

First three seasons:

Shannon:
21-17
Avg Schedule strength: 24
Espn avg class rank: 7

Golden:
22-15
Avg Schedule strength: 53
Espn avg class rank: 10


Golden has a bunch of dudes in love because he was well-spoken at his presser. He's formal Randy Shannon.

I forgot randy led us through a 3 year investigation. Give me a break.

What did Gorlden actually do besides allowing the PR train to claim he lead us through the cloud?
Coach L never claimed it

Mike Glazier got us through the NCAA bs.

Y'all actually think Gorlden found all the evidentiary problems w the NCAA case? Lmfao

This is funny, go look at the ranking of the players had on his team as seniors and Larkin.

 

[Bennubird]

I really felt like this was Coach Golden's season to really load up on the chits, but instead he let them slip away. We returned the most players with playing experience of any ACC team; we played the weakest schedule in ages; he lead us to a victory over uf to his credit; but his unwillingness to change our defensive scheme or to hold our DC accountable cost us a chance at the ACC Championship game (twice) this season and probably his chance of returning after next season.

 

[Miami82]

First three seasons:

Shannon:
21-17
Avg Schedule strength: 24
Espn avg class rank: 7

Golden:
22-15
Avg Schedule strength: 53
Espn avg class rank: 10


Golden has a bunch of dudes in love because he was well-spoken at his presser. He's formal Randy Shannon.

This begs the question what would our record be if Randy was the DC under Golden...

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

He is a good face and stabilized the program but not the coach to bring us to the elite level. Sorry but 8-4 at temple is not elite by miami old standards. He didnt win championship there, also temple was a mac program then.

9 wins at temple is like 12 wins here.. it's too soon to say golden is not the dude for the job, considering the amount of years of futility before he got here, 3 years is not enough time to get it done.

God this is one of the biggest myths that the Don Bailey Jr crowd busts out in defense of the Temple boys.

I don't have the stat on me...but someone on this board already broke down not only those "9 wins" but all his wins at Temple...the facts are he beat HORRIBLE opponents.

It's the equivalent of saying you have a BORDERLINE top 10 recruting class but have 30+ expected in the class.

Quantity over Quality. If I had to sum up Golden in 3 words it would be those.....quantity over quality.

But hey...keep on with the Don Bailey Jr battle cry.

 

[Miami82]

This will be his last year here.

Wanna bet? I'll never post here again if this is his last year.

I'm not saying that I he may be deserving of keeping his job, but the Admins will NOT fire him I guarantee it.

I get your point, but it really depends on how bad the wheels come off. 6-6 or worse and he is in big trouble.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

He is a good face and stabilized the program but not the coach to bring us to the elite level. Sorry but 8-4 at temple is not elite by miami old standards. He didnt win championship there, also temple was a mac program then.

9 wins at temple is like 12 wins here.. it's too soon to say golden is not the dude for the job, considering the amount of years of futility before he got here, 3 years is not enough time to get it done.

God this is one of the biggest myths that the Don Bailey Jr crowd busts out in defense of the Temple boys.

I don't have the stat on me...but someone on this board already broke down not only those "9 wins" but all his wins at Temple...the facts are he beat HORRIBLE opponents.

It's the equivalent of saying you have a BORDERLINE top 10 recruting class but have 30+ expected in the class.

Quantity over Quality. If I had to sum up Golden in 3 words it would be those.....quantity over quality.

But hey...keep on with the Don Bailey Jr battle cry.

#14 when you look at the relevant ranking, i.e. average star rating.

Golden is such a master recruiter.

 

[Miami82]

First three seasons:

Shannon:
21-17
Avg Schedule strength: 24
Espn avg class rank: 7

Golden:
22-15
Avg Schedule strength: 53
Espn avg class rank: 10


Golden has a bunch of dudes in love because he was well-spoken at his presser. He's formal Randy Shannon.

Not sure what you're trying prove with this comparison except that you're incapable of thinking in abstract and can only digest information on a concrete basis. Typical analysis of a low level thinker.
Looking deeper into that comparison unveils a coach who came in at a disadvantage compared to his predecessor since he didn't know players the players he inherited, unlike Shannon who knew what he was inheriting. Did'n't have the recruiting contacts and relationships built.
Had the disadvantage of a major scandal the would rock the program for 3 critical years blow up in his face 2 weeks before his 1st game.
Had to deal with uncertainty, suspensions, that the NCAA investigations brought and not to mention the negative recruiting that ensued.
Had to deal with the ongoing investigations of his players and resulting low player moral when it was revealed that school would self impose 2 bowl bans. Had to deal with the not getting the benefit of the extra practice time and experience younger players would have gotten had they not self imposed the said bowl bans while his main acc competition did.
Mind you the above Shannon did not have to deal with and yet Golden has a better overall record and can be argued that has pulled better classes.
So no, he's not a formal Randy. THINK beyond what's in front of your face.

I'll get back to negging this post as well, but you are without a doubt the lowest thinking porster on this site. Bar none. And the counter to your bowl comment is we earned a bowl and should have been a huge positive and **** the bed. Spin that calamity jane...

 

[Miami82]

3 years is enough to gauge the direction we're headed. If you can't see that, you should probably let me borrow some money. I'll pay you back.

6,7,9.....
with recruiting classes getting successively better each year.
Yeah, we seem to be headed in the wrong direction.

A 3 year scale showing "trend-up" of wins is a complete oversimplification, and belies the multitude of problems our program is facing.

You can choose to ignore them, but season win totals from 6, to 7, to 9 don't explain the putrid defensive statistics, difficulty beating marginal conference foes we should dominate, or ugly loses to ranked teams.

What happens when that win total stagnates, or begins the same migration, backwards? Is that what it'll take for you to acknowledge this program is on the wrong track?

This years recruiting class may not have any impact until 2015 at the earliest (and that's if they can actually be coached-up to be effective on the field).

If your defense of the programs improvement can be supported by a gradual uptick in wins over 3 years, then wouldn't it be fair to analyze a stock of a company, and justify an increase in dividend based soley on the fact they "produced" more product? That would completely ignore profitability, overhead, market rank, innovation, supply chain management, liabilities, growth forecasts & outlook, not to mention THE COMPETITION--

That's a key determinant. If your competition is outpacing you, YOU have a problem. We're being outpaced.

Preach it...

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Gotta love it when a Golden supporting, Don Bailey Jr disciple calls someone a "low level thinker"

Definition of irony.